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TSR said:
Although contained in Okfarmer's posting, it was actually LCowboy who posted this (my mistake) a quote/sign from a OWS protestor "Obama is a corporate Puppet"



So next, you'll have to explain how being a "corporate puppet" is not "progressive".

Why not explain how the more "socialist" Italy progressed towards "Corporatocracy"?

Fascism promotes political violence and war as actions that create national regeneration, spirit and vitality.[4][8] It views violence as a fact of life that is a necessary means to achieve human progress
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fascism
 
hypocritexposer said:
TSR said:
Although contained in Okfarmer's posting, it was actually LCowboy who posted this (my mistake) a quote/sign from a OWS protestor "Obama is a corporate Puppet"



So next, you'll have to explain how being a "corporate puppet" is not "progressive".

Why not explain how the more "socialist" Italy progressed towards "Corporatocracy"?

Fascism promotes political violence and war as actions that create national regeneration, spirit and vitality.[4][8] It views violence as a fact of life that is a necessary means to achieve human progress
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fascism

Hypo here is what you posted, "OWS protests are a fabricated Obama campaign that you TSR are being fooled by......"
That is the statement I am contesting, as one of the protestors carried a sign calling Obama a corporate puppet as I have staated in an earlier post.
 
TSR said:
hypocritexposer said:
TSR said:
Although contained in Okfarmer's posting, it was actually LCowboy who posted this (my mistake) a quote/sign from a OWS protestor "Obama is a corporate Puppet"



So next, you'll have to explain how being a "corporate puppet" is not "progressive".

Why not explain how the more "socialist" Italy progressed towards "Corporatocracy"?

Fascism promotes political violence and war as actions that create national regeneration, spirit and vitality.[4][8] It views violence as a fact of life that is a necessary means to achieve human progress
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fascism

Hypo here is what you posted, "OWS protests are a fabricated Obama campaign that you TSR are being fooled by......"
That is the statement I am contesting, as one of the protestors carried a sign calling Obama a corporate puppet as I have staated in an earlier post.


Exactly, you are being fooled by that sign.....the protester alleges to not agree with crony capitalism, but advocates for obama to propose more regulations that can be influenced by corporations.......


He/she will vote for obama in 2012, in hopes of bigger government and then bitch about the consequences of corporations trying to influence "big government" in the future.....those fooled by obama/Dems. will aid him and his party partners in getting rich, all the while thinking they are voting against the evil "rich" Republicans that are Corporate lackies.....the increased tax on the "rich" will be split 2 ways, and the majority will go to the politicians.......the minority will be used to buy votes......


smaller government means less influence peddling.......plain and simple.



Here's a question for you TSR..... (well actually 2 )


Federal spending, since Bush, has increased without a doubt, correct?


How much has the spending on the "poor", and "Middle Class", increased?
 
hypocritexposer said:
TSR said:
hypocritexposer said:
So next, you'll have to explain how being a "corporate puppet" is not "progressive".

Why not explain how the more "socialist" Italy progressed towards "Corporatocracy"?

Hypo here is what you posted, "OWS protests are a fabricated Obama campaign that you TSR are being fooled by......"
That is the statement I am contesting, as one of the protestors carried a sign calling Obama a corporate puppet as I have staated in an earlier post.


Exactly, you are being fooled by that sign.....the protester alleges to not agree with crony capitalism, but advocates for obama to propose more regulations that can be influenced by corporations.......


He/she will vote for obama in 2012, in hopes of bigger government and then bitch about the consequences of corporations trying to influence "big government" in the future.....those fooled by obama/Dems. will aid him and his party partners in getting rich, all the while thinking they are voting against the evil "rich" Republicans that are Corporate lackies.....


smaller government means less influence peddling.......plain and simple.

Ok then by your logic to be against Obama he should be carrying a sign saying "Elect Obama who stands up to corporate lobbyists".
 
TSR said:
hypocritexposer said:
TSR said:
Hypo here is what you posted, "OWS protests are a fabricated Obama campaign that you TSR are being fooled by......"
That is the statement I am contesting, as one of the protestors carried a sign calling Obama a corporate puppet as I have staated in an earlier post.


Exactly, you are being fooled by that sign.....the protester alleges to not agree with crony capitalism, but advocates for obama to propose more regulations that can be influenced by corporations.......


He/she will vote for obama in 2012, in hopes of bigger government and then bitch about the consequences of corporations trying to influence "big government" in the future.....those fooled by obama/Dems. will aid him and his party partners in getting rich, all the while thinking they are voting against the evil "rich" Republicans that are Corporate lackies.....


smaller government means less influence peddling.......plain and simple.

Ok then by your logic to be against Obama he should be carrying a sign saying "Elect Obama who stands up to corporate lobbyists".


obama does stand up to "corporate lobbyists" in public, but behind closed doors, that's a different story.......

How many lobbyists has he hired and how much taxpayer money has he given to Corporations after promising not to do so?
 
You still are not getting this, are you? The OWS movement was a campaign tactic of the obama groups to provide the allusion that they are sticking up for the "average man", while stealing from the taxpayer to line their own pockets......and you fall for the pickets that the odd guy paints and think that that is what the "movement" is accomplishing
 
hypocritexposer said:
TSR said:
hypocritexposer said:
Exactly, you are being fooled by that sign.....the protester alleges to not agree with crony capitalism, but advocates for obama to propose more regulations that can be influenced by corporations.......


He/she will vote for obama in 2012, in hopes of bigger government and then bitch about the consequences of corporations trying to influence "big government" in the future.....those fooled by obama/Dems. will aid him and his party partners in getting rich, all the while thinking they are voting against the evil "rich" Republicans that are Corporate lackies.....


smaller government means less influence peddling.......plain and simple.

Ok then by your logic to be against Obama he should be carrying a sign saying "Elect Obama who stands up to corporate lobbyists".


obama does stand up to "corporate lobbyists" in public, but behind closed doors, that's a different story.......

How many lobbyists has he hired and how much taxpayer money has he given to Corporations after promising not to do so?

Look at your first statement above Hypo. Obama does stasnd up.......but behind closed doors....
You telling me you can read this protestor's mind, and he is not putting forth his view of Obama's closed door policies??? It has nothing to do necessarily with who he will vote for,heck he might hate the Rep.'s worse than Obama. He just might be trying to get the President's attention. After all many if not most people vote for the lessor of two evils.
 
TSR said:
hypocritexposer said:
TSR said:
Ok then by your logic to be against Obama he should be carrying a sign saying "Elect Obama who stands up to corporate lobbyists".


obama does stand up to "corporate lobbyists" in public, but behind closed doors, that's a different story.......

How many lobbyists has he hired and how much taxpayer money has he given to Corporations after promising not to do so?

Look at your first statement above Hypo. Obama does stasnd up.......but behind closed doors....
You telling me you can read this protestor's mind, and he is not putting forth his view of Obama's closed door policies??? It has nothing to do necessarily with who he will vote for,heck he might hate the Rep.'s worse than Obama. He just might be trying to get the President's attention. After all many if not most people vote for the lessor of two evils.



Are the OWS protesters, as a group, more liberal or Conservative? Will they continue to hold their nose and vote for obama.....hoping that he is more progressive in the next term or not?


Be honest.......


You have honed in on one sign, to make a point that everybody does not agree with obama, so everybody should take the side of the OWS protesters who will vote for obama en masse.....

:lol: :lol: :lol:



"Hey look an OWS protester that disagrees with obama, maybe we should vote the way of the OWSers, which would be for obama"

"Pssst, maybe we should plant some other signs, to help out his campaign......might make people think he is against, what he is actually doing......"


:???:
 
An you have taken the view that they are all pro Obama and support all his policies which I don't believe is true. I go back to what I initially posted agreeing with the diagram displayed in LCowboy's post. But I am not going to argue with you all night, its about my bedtime.
 
TSR said:
An you have taken the view that they are all pro Obama and support all his policies which I don't believe is true. I go back to what I initially posted agreeing with the diagram displayed in LCowboy's post. But I am not going to argue with you all night, its about my bedtime.


The majority of OWS protesters are far left radicals that were hoping obama would do everything they wanted, the only reason that he hasn't is that the Tea Party voted in those "partisan' folks in 2010, so as to slow him down.......now the "far left" are finding fault with obama.....who will they vote for in 2012?

Half (52%) have participated in a political movement before, virtually all (98%) say they would support civil disobedience to achieve their goals, and nearly one-third (31%) would support violence to advance their agenda.

The vast majority of demonstrators are actually employed, and the proportion of protesters unemployed (15%) is within single digits of the national unemployment rate (9.1%).

An overwhelming majority of demonstrators supported Barack Obama in 2008. Now 51% disapprove of the president while 44% approve, and only 48% say they will vote to re-elect him in 2012, while at least a quarter won't vote.
 
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I think this is a good representation of the two.
 
So do these troops represent all servicmen, those that have brothers or sisters in the movement,even mothers and fathers??? Do you reckon there are other sites that could afford us with pictures contrary to this one.
 
TSR said:
So do these troops represent all servicmen, those that have brothers or sisters in the movement,even mothers and fathers??? Do you reckon there are other sites that could afford us with pictures contrary to this one.

no single group represents "all".. but it would certainly represent most everyone I know that served or has served..

and feel free to find a picture of an opposing opinion.. if there is one.

you seem to really like the ideals represented by the OWS protestors.. but to most they look like a bunch of whiney over educated crybabies.. who are unwilling to do the actual work to fix anything..

the OWS couldn't get a idea formed so some democratic strategist spoon-fed them a agenda and now some attribute it to them..
 
Steve said:
TSR said:
So do these troops represent all servicmen, those that have brothers or sisters in the movement,even mothers and fathers??? Do you reckon there are other sites that could afford us with pictures contrary to this one.

no single group represents "all".. but it would certainly represent most everyone I know that served or has served..

and feel free to find a picture of an opposing opinion.. if there is one.

you seem to really like the ideals represented by the OWS protestors.. but to most they look like a bunch of whiney over educated crybabies.. who are unwilling to do the actual work to fix anything..

the OWS couldn't get a idea formed so some democratic strategist spoon-fed them a agenda and now some attribute it to them..



Here's the latest pics of the OWS crowd trying to get their point across.....I think their "point" has something to do with the right to naked keg parties.......


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http://pjmedia.com/zombie/2011/12/12/s-f-puts-the-x-back-in-xmas-occupying-human-rights-for-naked-santas/?singlepage=true
 

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