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The Dean calls Susan Clarkson a "Pest"

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Tony put this editor's note on the top of his issues article titled "Rebels with a Lost Cause".
Editor's note: The following story from High Country News is good and accurate reading regarding the legal arm of the Wise Use Movement. I once met William Perry Pendley, who oversees the Mountain States Legal Foundation, which also included former Interior Secy. Gail Norton on their staff, and was impressed. I was moderating a hearing on wetlands in North Dakota, and Pendley attacked wetland regulations. He was effective, illustrating his presentation with bullet points and anecdotes that suggested he was telling the truth, as each showed the ominous federal agovernment abusing private property owners. I checked the stories out and found a grain of truth in each, though most were greatly magnified.
Anyway, read the story...it's worth your time.

I emailed Tony and asked him which stories he checked out? Only to have him reply as follows:
Tonys response:
Susan:

I am not answering anymore of your emails, so you can set me up for criticism on the Rancher's Net site. You are a pest, and I don't wish to communicate with you.

I emailed him the following back and have not heard from him. I do wonder why he didn't vindicate himself on ranchersnet by just logging in and refuting the criticism. I believe any one can be on ranchersnet. Maybe he is but won't reveal himself, common sense would tell me if I had not revealed my self he would have not called me a pest. I now understand why his site is not set up like ranchersnet as it would show the hits his website actually gets and because he cannot handle criticism. Maybe if it was like ranchersnet, the picture on the front of his website might not be him leaning against an "Alumacraft".

my email to Tony
Tony,

I assume from your email you never checked any story out. I also assume if you were moderating a hearing there was another side. If that is true, evidently the other side could not show or give facts to counteract/contradict what Pendley had to say. I am also sure the other side researched Pendley and knew what his side/presentation was going to be before this hearing. I would assume they were prepared and assuming that is true they surely would have been able to show that what he said had a grain of truth and a bushel of exaggerations/lies.

Thank you for giving me the credit for setting you up but in reality you did that yourself and will get the award for that if your wall can hold another one. I have no awards but that is alright. I don't measure my success by the awards on my wall nor would I put the awards on the wall to reassure myself or validate my success to others by displaying them. It was not my words that brought you criticism it was your words out of your mouth. If you cannot take criticism you maybe ought to think of another line of work. I can only think of one job that would lack criticism but I don't think you would get any awards for it.

Merry Christmas Tony,

PS Is pest bad? You seem to think many are needed for the ecosystem.

I assume if you have read this far you have again forgotten the red X at the top of the computer is the delete button.

Our memory seems to fade with age.



"If" I am able to stop the horse turd tears, I will log in and read the responses.
 
Talking of Dean........ reminds me of the oldtimer who was telling his grandson the following.
" One thing you'll learn sonny in this old world, there are more horses asses than there are horses"
 
When Steve Sibson disagreed/criticized Tony, here is what Tony had to say about him.

"Steve poses as the conservative, yet works for a paycheck. For more than 30 years, I have met payrolls and started three different businesses. Pretty socialistic, uh?
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Tony put this on his website last New Year's eve and it only lasted a few hours but someone was quick enough to copy it before he had second thoughts and pulled it.

I would think that many who read Tony Deans Website are conservative people working for a paycheck.

I assume many who buy the Lumacraft consider themselves conservative and work for a paycheck.

One thing is for sure Tony does not like to be questioned and that is why his website is the way it is. He controls it and what is posted. Maybe he thinks no one has any common sense left, and will just believe him for his dynamic speaking ability or the awards on his wall.

I don't.

When he doesn't answer simple questions it only leads me to wonder more about his credibility, brought on solely by him.
 
I have seen some articles that I agree with Dean on.

I am a friend of the environment and know many landowners and many hunters who are also.

I would say that the people on the land were the first environmentalists and that included all as that is where we all started.
 
your correct. there are some current ranchers/farmers that are not tho, and feel like its their land, and they are gonna squize every little bit of $ out of it and are not thinking of the future for their kids or for the land itself.
 
There are slobs/thugs/all about me never thinking ahead in every faction of life, environmentalist included.

That is why I personally do not believe in nor would I be part of a conservation easement with the word perpetuity. If the conservation easement is as good as they claim, having to renew every 10 or 20 years would be as good as perpetuity.

Perpetuity does take the opportunity for change away from future generations.

I don't think those promoting conservation easements are as worried about conserving as some are about controlling. I also think when that happens no one will have the use of that land.

Although this is a property right and if they want perpetuity so be it, it's just not for me. I don't believe there should be a law to stop perpetuity either, it's a property right. Common Sense just tells me if it is good for perpetuity why isn't it just as good for 10 or 20 years.


I also believe in the future generations and don't believe my generation has the only right answers left.

Some of these conservation easements are forcing the people off the land. When many parents thought they were keeping the family farm in the family and for the future generations.
 
The vast majority of farmers and ranchers are good environmental stewards. Virtually all farmers and ranchers think they are good stewards, but everyone has limits to their expertise (called ignorane). one fact that needs reiterated is farming/ranching stewards often use many of their own resources to preserve the environment, and this requires muh more commitment than being a sign shaking environmentalist.

If Dean were merely an environmental advocate, he wouldn't be nearly so antagonistic towards landowners that work daily to improve the environment.
 

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