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flyingS

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I have been a member on this website for awhile. I was reading a post this morning that involved several personal insults to several different posters. As I was reading, it reminded me of other posts that had the same kind of insults and accusations. Things sure have changed through the years. I do not have the experience many of you do, although I was raised very traditionally. I can remember when you could still here the neighbors talking on another line if you listened really hard, I grew up with PBS because satelites were new, or at least I think they were. I was in my late twenties before I ever drove a brand new vehicle, my wife and I bought it on our own account. Most importantly my mother taught me manners, respect and humility, things that all used to be common place. I can't express how dissappointed I am to read so many insults and accusations on this website that is supposedly full of "Ranch People". Maybe ranchers and farmers in different parts of the world did not grow up with the same values. It is very easy to talk about someone or make accusations and threats when you do not have to look them in the eye. Business isn't even done over the phone anymore where you can at least here someone's voice, instead emails are sent. It doesn't take much courage to critisize someone that you can not see or hear. The day of standing face to face and saying what needs to be said are obviously gone. It upsets me a little I guess. More than once a friend or neighbor has been attacked on here by someone that would not know them if they were standing face to face. It is a sad reallity I guess. It's too bad that change and the evolution of society has made it common place and acceptable to do what ever you would like, when ever you like, as well as say what ever you want, whenever you want with no regard for other people. To sum it up our preast said it best in church the other day. He basically said there is no regard for right and wrong. What is acceptable today was not even remotely acceptable 30 yrs ago. People only think of themselves and lack humility and respect.
Sorry for the rant just was a little irritated. Where did we go wrong. I am probably as guilty as anyone I suppose, for that I am ashamed.
 
I am not sure that things have changed as much as you think flyinS. There are plenty of examples of the unsavory behavior you speak of going back to Biblical times. How about the incident of the Good Samaritan. An example of unneighborly behavior followed by good behavior. It is our challenge to follow up with good civil behavior.

Interestingly I spent an hour putting out a fire for an organization I am a part of with a politician because of several emails (none of which were from or to me). Of course when it gets political it gets personal for the politician. We agreed that face to face certainly helps a conversation.
 
i feel it is an almost unavoidable situation when you have as many members as Ranchers has. to many people from to many different places with to many ways of doing things. if you ain't use to it by now, you may want to check out. :wink:
 
Justin you make a valid point. It still doesn't make it right. Belittleing some one publicly has never gained anyone anything. The reason it happens is because we except it and allow it to happen whether we desagree with it or not. I have voiced my opinion and tried to do it in a positive manner, without tearing someone else down (choosing to respectfully disagree). There are lots of things I do not agree with, it does not mean that I have to belittle someone to make my point. I truly believe in calling a spade a spade and you will not ever hear a comment on here from me that you would not hear me repeat when I am looking you in the eye.
 
flyingS said:
Justin you make a valid point. It still doesn't make it right. Belittleing some one publicly has never gained anyone anything. The reason it happens is because we except it and allow it to happen whether we desagree with it or not. I have voiced my opinion and tried to do it in a positive manner, without tearing someone else down (choosing to respectfully disagree). There are lots of things I do not agree with, it does not mean that I have to belittle someone to make my point. I truly believe in calling a spade a spade and you will not ever hear a comment on here from me that you would not hear me repeat when I am looking you in the eye.
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i understand where you are coming from and i agree with you 100%. the problem is that there will always be some that don't care to walk that line. it just is what it is, i guess.
but like i said, i agree with what you are saying. :tiphat:
 
I agree with you Flying S even though I have lost my temper while here occasionally. We all are probably pretty independent and hard headed. We all like to lead instead of follow. We all probably have 95% of things in common and wouldn't have much at all we'd not like about each other. But it is easy to get disgusted, have a bad day and get a burr under our saddle pad. That doesnt make it right when we cross the line of civility. But when folks get together in any setting, some will knock heads. I think the world of lots of folks here on ranchers and sure do apologize if I have offended anyone. Sometimes my mouth shorts out without running my thoughts past my brain. With this site, just like with all people, you gotta take the good and the bad. To me, the great folks far, far out number boneheads like myself. My blood pressure has been better after swearing off of political bull. I would sure hope that good folks like Flying S would stick around because we need ya! :D Everyone adds something. And I'd hope we all might think a little more instead of saying something we'd regret.
 
Things really have'nt changed much since I got here. Once people cross a line and tempers get heated things calm down and get back to normal. We have all said things in haste or in the heat of the moment or even what we meant to say and what we typed was not the same thing.

I know in my "real" life I am very frustrated with younger people. I am sure that it is making my "groucher" having to deal with their self centeredness, lack of honor, lack of commitment, no work ethic, and "its all about me".
I was raised in a city and moved to the small town. These kids were raised on ranchs in small towns. Yes I know there are good kids out there but it seems the majority have no manners, no concern for other people and their feelings.

I think we need to keep setting the standard and when we fail to meet our own standard, emulate the proper way to appoligize then forgive and forget.
 
leanin' H said:
To me, the great folks far, far out number boneheads like myself. My blood pressure has been better after swearing off of political bull. I would sure hope that good folks like Flying S would stick around because we need ya!
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:agree: thats about the best advice ever :)
 
Flcowgirl5491 that is great. I wish I'd have thought to say it just that way. Let 'em do their thing and then tan their hides. There would be a lot more respect out there is some had had their hides tanned while growing up. Thinking of others first and having some respect sometimes seems a thing of the past.
 

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