THIS IS SO MUCH BULL$*@#

[Lonecowboy]

" When you see that in order to produce, you need to obtain permission from men who produce nothing; when you see that money is flowing to those who deal not in goods, but in favors; when you see that men get rich more easily by graft than by work, and your laws no longer protect you against them, but protect them against you...; you may know that your society is doomed. "

- A quote from Atlas Shrugged

 

[Hereford76]

the dot guy up here is a dandy. a few days ago i was trying to road one of the swathers with a 25ft draper header on it over about 4 miles of HWy 2 to save probably another hour and half of taking county roads to get where i was headed. the stretch of hwy 2 around here is probably as lonely as it gets... mostly local farmers/ranchers beboping around. i was driving right down the dead center of the hwy as you can see for miles ahead or behind. if a vehicle came in sight ahead/behind i would drive down in the ditch and let them pass. i got about 1/4 mile from where i wanted to get off the hwy and i see a vehicle coming from behind so i pull the swather off in the ditch and just putt along the hwy waiting for them to pass and it seemed to be taking longer than it should so i turned my shoulder and looked back and the dot guy had his lights on but i wasn't stopping. i just kept going the last bit and headed south. i guess he was just making sure everything was OK. they are also hitting folks hard for trailer brakes, emergency brakes, etc on all these little stock trailers or flatbeds. i've been fined twice within the last year once for pulling three bulls to town for can and driving by the scale. the other for pulling my portable chute by the scale.

 

[loomixguy]

Suffice it to say that I personally have no use for DOT personnell, no matter the state they are in. The ones I have had the pleasure of encountering, from California to North Carolina, were all cut from the same cloth...nitwits with badges, who, when asked the same question twice, will NEVER give the same answer twice. They twist and prostitute the laws with their own interpretations (just like state fire marshals), and more than a few couldn't find their ash with both hands. Simply put, they are out there interrupting the lives of honest working folks who are trying to make a living while obeying vague and convoluted laws concerning everything from hours of service to who does and doesn't need a CDL.

That post kind of gives your answer to the age old question Loomix.


Would you rather have a brother that works as a DOT inspector or a sister that works in a whorehouse? :lol:

I'll take a sister who works in a whorehouse any day, and twice on Sunday! :wink:

 

[Hanta Yo]

This whole thing just gripes my butt because it gives the government more control. They are going to control us all out of business

Only time we use the stock trailer is to haul animals to a livestock sale, haul horses to the neighbors to help them brand, take 4-H critters to the fair and sold 4-H critters to their destinations and custom fed critters we take for "processing" (see how politically correct I am? ) We seem to draw a line, the gov't crosses it so we draw another line. Pretty soon we're going to be in a corner

 

[Lonecowboy]

This whole thing just gripes my butt because it gives the government more control. They are going to control us all out of business

Only time we use the stock trailer is to haul animals to a livestock sale, haul horses to the neighbors to help them brand, take 4-H critters to the fair and sold 4-H critters to their destinations and custom fed critters we take for "processing" (see how politically correct I am? ) We seem to draw a line, the gov't crosses it so we draw another line. Pretty soon we're going to be in a corner

this has been going on for ever, read the Declaration of Independence!

today is the deadline to comment:
www.regulations.gov follow the instructions and use Federal Docket System Number: FMCSA-2011-0146-0357

here is a good comment to use:

We find in the Declaration of Independence that "Governments are instituted among men,deriving their JUST powers from the consent of the governed." so any powers that are taken without the consent of We the People are JUST taken. That is what you are attempting to do- take powers that have not been given to you by consent of the governed. Read the Constitution of the United States, there are specific and LIMITED powers that We the People have given to the Federal Government. Anyone with any basic understanding of the English language can understand this. Do not mock our Constitution and the people you are there to serve. Returning to the Declaration of Independence we see "that whenever ANY form of Government becomes destructive of these ends [ Life, liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness] it is the right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and institute a new government, laying it's foundation on such principles and organizing it's powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness." This usurpation of powers, not given to you, is unacceptable! I am writing this comment urging you to Please alter or abolish your plan immediately! The principles of your Liberty, as well as mine are, on the line here, hold the line, Please support, protect and defend our Constitution!

 

[Faster horses]

Thanks for providing that lonecowboy, but I'm having problems
finding it. Any more suggestions? I did a search with that
document number and '0' came up. Thanks in advance for your
help.

 

[Lonecowboy]

I just clicked on the link I provided and it worked for me?????

then put the docket # in the right hand box and press search, then as I recall scroll down and you will find the issue at hand, select comment, do your thing and submit. maybe they are on overload?? I hope so.

 

[Hanta Yo]

What I did was click on "regulations with comment periods closing soon", then click on today (there are 86 of them). There are 9 pages, go to page 9 and 2nd from the bottom FMCSA-2011-0146-0357 is the one you want to comment on. They will be accepting comments until 11:59 PM.

 

[Anonymous]

DOT: No changes to road rules
08/10/2011 @ 10:29am
Business Editor
If you haul grain as part of a crop share agreement with your landlord, you're not going to have to get a commercial driver's license (CDL).

That's what the Department of Transportation says in an official guidance issued today, hoping to calm members of Congress and farm groups who feared a new set of burdensome regulations.

Instead, the Department is not changing any federal rules that apply to requirements for CDLs for farmers.

"These common sense provisions we have now will continue to be available," Deputy Secretary John Porcari, told Agriculture.com. "We are definitely saying crop sharing does not trigger a commercial drivers license."

But that issue instigated the recent furor over CDLs in the farm community. Farmers worried that some states were about to interpret crop sharing as a commercial arrangement that would trigger a CDL. So the Department's Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration sought comments in the Federal Register on three issues:

•what distinguishes intra- and interstate commerce for operation of a commercial motor vehicle in a state;
•the issue of whether a farmer transporting supplies or crops under a crop sharing agreement needs a CDL;
•and whether farm equipment should be considered commercial vehicles.
Porcari said the Department's goal is to make sure states don't make any changes that go against common sense in those three areas. The rules aren't changing , he said.

He said there may have been confusion over the Department's asking for advice through a public notice on May 31 in the Federal Register. Normally, if a federal agency wants to change regulations, it publishes a proposed rule in the Register, so some people may have thought a new rule was coming.

If the Department wanted advice, its strategy worked. It got about 1,700 responses from the National Association of Wheat Growers, National Farmers Union and others. And earlier this month a bipartisan group of 22 senators sent the Department a letter. All opposed any changes.

Senator Chuck Grassley, one of the signers of the letter, told reporters Tuesday that new rules from the Department "are going to add very unnecessary regulations to farming but not improve transportation safety."

Porcari said the department doesn't want to do anything to burden the agricultural sector of the economy. "We see this as a jobs issue."