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Those Diesel Pickups

A lot of interesting posts on this thread. We traded our
duramax since we really don't have a need for a lot of power.
We have a 16 foot gooseneck which we use one or two times a year.


This thread sure shows how working people like their diesels - and we sure liked our Duramax. When we bought it, the dealer sold Dodges and GM's. After driving the Dodge, we opted for the Duramax because of the ride and the GM was quite a bit cheaper.

Have no idea how our new Silverado is going to do on gas, but it looks like the high teens - just about the same as the Duramax.

The issue of economy - owning a gas-guzzler is like being married to a real nag - you get reminded every time you do a fill-up
 
Cowpuncher, you can come drive my '04 5.9 cummins down the hwy empty any day of the week do the filling and calculating , and I bet you a steak dinner it will get at least 20mpg :P Your numbers sound like they were all miles and that's pretty good. Doubt mine would do much better on all miles. I usually get around 21 and have gotten as high as 23 on the hwy. It now has 115,000 miles on it and so far a water pump is all I have done to it. It has the Laramie upgrade and I am satisfied with the body. It's my second dodge prior to that I drove Chevys all my life.
 
Chev with an 8.1litre and a Dodge with a Cummins. Both 18 mpg empty but loaded the Chev around 10 and the Cummins 13-15. The chev can out perform the Cummins though. If passing a Cummins is required the chevs gas mileage can dip into the mid single digits. No smelly exhaust with the gas which makes my wife happier. :-)
 
got a 2002 duramax, just put new injectors in it at 200,000 miles, We have gotten up to 25 mpg, but most long road trips it more like 22-23mpg. with a trailor it drops to 17 and loaded 15-14 mpg. You can see why we fixed it up this fall, don't think we could get one to match that.
 
With the prices I've seen this past summer in Jackson and IF, I can definately see the logic of hanging onto, and maintaining whatever one already owns...
 
I've got a 99 Dodge diesel that I was considering trading for a newer, not new Dodge and it was going to cost me $20,000 plus to trade. The only time I drive it is when I'm hauling something so I decided to fix a few things on my old rig and drive it 10 more years. With 170,000 miles on it and never having touched the engine I hope I can make it at least 5 more years. I just had the AT flushed and the filter changed because the tranny was acting a little sluggish. Has anyone ever had trouble with the exhaust manifolds on these models cracking? I replaced it a couple years ago and it did it again.

I'm not sure why anyone would buy a brand new vehicle. I heard someone give this analogy. It would be like investing $45,000 in the stock market knowing it would lose 15% of it's value the first day. :shock: Why not let someone else take the depreciation hit?
 
Big Swede said:
I've got a 99 Dodge diesel that I was considering trading for a newer, not new Dodge and it was going to cost me $20,000 plus to trade. The only time I drive it is when I'm hauling something so I decided to fix a few things on my old rig and drive it 10 more years. With 170,000 miles on it and never having touched the engine I hope I can make it at least 5 more years. I just had the AT flushed and the filter changed because the tranny was acting a little sluggish. Has anyone ever had trouble with the exhaust manifolds on these models cracking? I replaced it a couple years ago and it did it again.

I'm not sure why anyone would buy a brand new vehicle. I heard someone give this analogy. It would be like investing $45,000 in the stock market knowing it would lose 15% of it's value the first day. :shock: Why not let someone else take the depreciation hit?
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because they can. :wink:
 
Welcome to the 'new generation' where instant-gratification outweighs the tried and true wisdom of 'slow and steady wins the race'...
 
One can still buy a new truck, you just have to get a whale of a deal when you buy. I bought a new 2008 Dodge a last year, the 09's had been out for a few months and it had been at the dealer for some time. Window sticker was $42,500 and I bought it for $28,000 and they gave me $3,500 more for my 2003 I was trading in than any other dealer I tried. I couldn't pass it up.
 
Some are interested in hooking up & going...not making sure nothing will fall off this time.

I hate turning wrenches. One reason I farmed with horses until the pleasure was no longer worth the pain.
 
A dealer told me the other day that anything delivered to the dealership after Jan 1 of 2010 will have to have more emision equipment on them. They will have to the urea tank and injector on them just like the big rigs do. He thought it would cost about $4000 more per vehicle.
 
Justin said:
i have an 2003 ford 1 ton with the 7.3 and gets about 20-22 mpg empty as long as you don't drive it like you stole it. i only checked it once, right after i got it and haven't since.
one thing that i get a kick out of, is those that are willing to pay 40-50K for a brand new pickup and then bench about fuel mileage. :roll: the way i see it, if you are willing to pay that much for a pickup, then whats a few more dollars for some extra fuel.
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Amen bought them to use not to look at . my chevy ton with a 6.0 vortec {gas} gets 11 hwy 10 putn around and 8 pull n 24 ft stock trailer . fill it and drive.
 
I got a 01' chevy duramax and it gets about 13-14 pulling a trailer and 16-19 just driving. But you got to drive about 70 mph everywhere you go and keep those rpms up. The bad thing about that year was the injectors, I had them replaced at about 140,000 and I have one going out now and I am at 187,000 now, and those stupid things are not cheap. My dad has a 04' dodge and he gets way better milage than me, but his rides like a tank compared to mine. I pay 2.83 for diesel as of today, but about 2 weeks ago it was about 8 cents more. I would love to have one of the new ones but I just dont see how you can pay 45-50,000 for a new diesel pickup that when you drive it off the lot its worth 10-15,000 less than when you bought it new. There is no way those vechiles are worth that much or they have that much into them to make them cost that much. Hell I can go buy a good used 18 wheeler and pay that much and have something that will pull a hell lot more that it and last alot longer.
 
I've never bought a new pickup but for me if I can justify purchaseing a new one what it's worth tomorrow is of no matter. Every truck I've ever owned was'nt worth scrap when I got done with them. I'd much rather buy a skid loader,tractor,hayrake or about anything other than a new pickup. I've wasted alot of money on pickups and now that I've grown up I could really careless as long its a reasonable sound vehicle. I'm very hard on pickups so there is no sense buying a show piece as it'll be full of firewood within a week and I'll drive to the tree to get it.

If you spend $10,000 on a good used pickup you've got $40,000 left over for fuel and parts. My 84 f250 gets better mileage than my 03 if that tell you anything. My 03 F250 cost me $13,000 with 67,000 miles and new tires on it 5.4 gas 6 speed manual.
 
scout said:
Justin said:
i have an 2003 ford 1 ton with the 7.3 and gets about 20-22 mpg empty as long as you don't drive it like you stole it. i only checked it once, right after i got it and haven't since.
one thing that i get a kick out of, is those that are willing to pay 40-50K for a brand new pickup and then bench about fuel mileage. :roll: the way i see it, if you are willing to pay that much for a pickup, then whats a few more dollars for some extra fuel.
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Amen bought them to use not to look at . my chevy ton with a 6.0 vortec {gas} gets 11 hwy 10 putn around and 8 pull n 24 ft stock trailer . fill it and drive.
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Like much in our world today not very sustainable - burning up finite fossil fuel reserves at ever quicker rates with not a care for tomorrow. Such attitudes necessitate fighting wars in the middle east at the cost of American lives. It's what is causing epidemics of cancers and other ill health in regions down stream from the tar sands of Northern Alberta. Still as long as you can waste the last of the worlds oil and it lasts your life time who cares :???:
 

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