Time to shut down the border again?

[cowsense]

R-calf mantra.....any coffeeshop or barroom debate..........blame the Canadians....................than the packers! Absolutely no regards to market fundamentals of rapidly rising feed prices, labour shortages or negative fed and processed margins!!!!! Perhaps Rclaggers prefer to use astrology to predict the market!

 

[HAY MAKER]

R-calf mantra.....any coffeeshop or barroom debate..........blame the Canadians....................than the packers! Absolutely no regards to market fundamentals of rapidly rising feed prices, labour shortages or negative fed and processed margins!!!!! Perhaps Rclaggers prefer to use astrology to predict the market!

Yes all of these things do have a bearing on the markets,but after all is said and done ,it comes down to the simple theory of SUPPLY & DEMANDwhy would we import a comodity when we have a glut ?NAFTA may be good for the country in general,but it's not worth a damn for the cattle man...................good luck

 

[Econ101]

R-calf mantra.....any coffeeshop or barroom debate..........blame the Canadians....................than the packers! Absolutely no regards to market fundamentals of rapidly rising feed prices, labour shortages or negative fed and processed margins!!!!! Perhaps Rclaggers prefer to use astrology to predict the market!

Yes all of these things do have a bearing on the markets,but after all is said and done ,it comes down to the simple theory of SUPPLY & DEMANDwhy would we import a comodity when we have a glut ?NAFTA may be good for the country in general,but it's not worth a damn for the cattle man...................good luck

Nafta isn't necessarily good for the country in general for a lot of reasons. The Canadians found that out with the softwood lumber dispute. Nafta has just been an excuse for corporations/middlemen gaining more control and producers/labor less.

All this with less accountability for the House of Representatives, who by the constitution, have the RESPONSIBILITY to govern this area. It has allowed the House to sell out America with ease for their own self interest and against the interests of their constituents.

 

[Big Muddy rancher]

Oldtimer you know what the problem is? It's all those "Packer" owned cattle that the ranchers forward contracted. The buyers have much of their needs met so they don't have to compete for the auction calves. The contracted calves are tieing up the trucks. Heck you guys should be doing something about those EVIL video sales.

 

[elwapo]

Yawn...........same old haymaker /oldtimer duet. Oltimer some of you Montana boys make those guys off of deliverance look like yuppies.

 

[mrj]

Just a few wild guesses....Oh! No, it's Insight to the Beef Industry reports from Cattle-FAX.....but some events signalling the market declines now might be that retail beef prices have declined for most of this year..... carcass weights are high so far in 2006, averaging seven pounds above the record weights set in 2002....or the 3% increase in the net beef supply...... or the fact that the pork industry inventories continue a higher trend......

Guess it's a good think Beef import totasls are running well below 2005 levels, probably ending the year down by at least 5%, with the largest declines in beef from Canada.

BTW, wasn't a market drop predicted for some time back, and we are pretty lucky prices kept up for so long this fall, IMO. One of the "blessings" of the drought is that some of us were forced to sell before the prices dropped!

MRJ

 

[Anonymous]

Maxine- What will it take this time before NCBA thinks prices are bad?...When R-CALF started and prices pf calves were in the $50-70 range and many ranch folks were going broke , they shocked Congress when they told them about the bad prices and tough times, since NCBA had been painting them a shiny picture of nothing being wrong...

Maxine- How low will NCBA let prices go and slaughter be rolled back before they quit backing the Tyson/Cargill USDA position against allowing private Packers to BSE test to open export markets? How many more years of substantially no exports to Asia will it take for them to wake up?

Maxine-Do you think NCBA should change their position against competing in Asia?

 

[agman]

Maxine- What will it take this time before NCBA thinks prices are bad?...When R-CALF started and prices pf calves were in the $50-70 range and many ranch folks were going broke , they shocked Congress when they told them about the bad prices and tough times, since NCBA had been painting them a shiny picture of nothing being wrong...

Maxine- How low will NCBA let prices go and slaughter be rolled back before they quit backing the Tyson/Cargill USDA position against allowing private Packers to BSE test to open export markets? How many more years of substantially no exports to Asia will it take for them to wake up?

Maxine-Do you think NCBA should change their position against competing in Asia?

You must be dreaming to think R-Calf or their actions caused prices to advance. Presence and cause are two entirely different events. You are either the most uninformed or most biased person on this planet with many of the totally unsupportable comments you make.

Do you have a clue how much corn prices have advanced? How much does the change in corn prices alter what feedlot operators can pay for feeders and calves all other factors being equal?

Do you even know how to compute the total gain in feed costs of a calf going on feed that will gain 500 pounds? I will give you a hint; that added cost, due the advance in corn prices, now exceeds $100 per head and it is far from being over. You have not seen anything yet if we even so much as have a hint of planting problems next spring. For your information the feeder and calf supply outside feedyards on October 1, inclusive of imports was down 139,000 head.

Feeders and calves were at record levels when the border was open and corn was $1.50 per bushel cheaper. The only change is the price of corn, so how can you deduce from that the open border is the cause of lower feeder and calf prices? Please explain your reasoning if there is any.

 

[Anonymous]

Maxine- What will it take this time before NCBA thinks prices are bad?...When R-CALF started and prices pf calves were in the $50-70 range and many ranch folks were going broke , they shocked Congress when they told them about the bad prices and tough times, since NCBA had been painting them a shiny picture of nothing being wrong...

Maxine- How low will NCBA let prices go and slaughter be rolled back before they quit backing the Tyson/Cargill USDA position against allowing private Packers to BSE test to open export markets? How many more years of substantially no exports to Asia will it take for them to wake up?

Maxine-Do you think NCBA should change their position against competing in Asia?

You must be dreaming to think R-Calf or their actions caused prices to advance. Presence and cause are two entirely different events. You are either the most uninformed or most biased person on this planet with many of the totally unsupportable comments you make.

Action and the following reaction proves a whole lot more than months and months/ actually years and years of experts sitting in their penthouses prognosticicating...And usually prognostications which have to be altered continually with excuses and slight of hand to finally make them be close to being right....The Border issue has proof- Border closed= Record prices......Prices I never saw any of the Ouija board readers predicting

Do you have a clue how much corn prices have advanced? How much does the change in corn prices alter what feedlot operators can pay for feeders and calves all other factors being equal?

I believe it was $3.32 yesterday...

Do you even know how to compute the total gain in feed costs of a calf going on feed that will gain 500 pounds? I will give you a hint; that added cost, due the advance in corn prices, now exceeds $100 per head and it is far from being over. You have not seen anything yet if we even so much as have a hint of planting problems next spring. For your information the feeder and calf supply outside feedyards on October 1, inclusive of imports was down 139,000 head.


Feeders and calves were at record levels when the border was open and corn was $1.50 per bushel cheaper. The only change is the price of corn, so how can you deduce from that the open border is the cause of lower feeder and calf prices? Please explain your reasoning if there is any.

Agman I was probably figuring gain/feed/sale prices before you was a glimmer in your Daddy's eye-altho I was not using corn prices, but instead barley and other grain prices/availability...Started selling fat beef in the 50's and 60's- even fed out lambs and hogs back then too...I'm aware that the feeding costs effect the prices- but there are other factors also- fuel costs, truck shortages, lower demand ( which is being fueled by your revered NCBA's refusal to support exporting or open competition by the Creekstones of the world) etc. etc. that were affecting the prices the last week - But you will never convince me or many others who have watched it for years, as transX truck after Trans X truck- and bull hauler after bull hauler all headed south with a one way trade, that the availability and supply of beef from Canada which is brought into the US and fraudulently sold to US consumers as US beef doesn't play a major role....You are doing the same thing that you accuse me of doing- Not using a major factor in your decision making- and the border being open/closed and imports as a whole are a major factor in the price...

Agman- You blew your bias and your supposed expertise with me when you went with the Big Packers/NCBA and against true open free enterprise and markets with your support of USDA's denial to Creekstone and the other Packers that wanted to test- and then said that the Japanese and Asians would be crawling all over each other for US beef as soon as it got there... What a joke... How many years has it been now? :lol: :lol: Come back next year when Japan and Asia are still negotiating and tell me that-- then maybe the year after- and the year after :wink: :lol: :lol:

And keep supporting NCBA and their president who "Doesn't want the US competing with any other beef producing countries :roll: :???: :lol:

 

[blackjack]

...can't agree with you more oldtimer...in all my years i have seen american company after american company come up to canada and take over our businesses including a couple named cargill and tyson... i have seen where we also fatten our own cattle (a couple hundred head) to now when i have buyers tell me i 'm getting my grass yearlings to big for them to finish... the system keeps backing us primary producers further into a corner...but yet i read fellow producers that call guys like me a whiner ...good for them if their happy with the crumbs...

 

[Manitoba_Rancher]

Maxine- What will it take this time before NCBA thinks prices are bad?...When R-CALF started and prices pf calves were in the $50-70 range and many ranch folks were going broke , they shocked Congress when they told them about the bad prices and tough times, since NCBA had been painting them a shiny picture of nothing being wrong...

Maxine- How low will NCBA let prices go and slaughter be rolled back before they quit backing the Tyson/Cargill USDA position against allowing private Packers to BSE test to open export markets? How many more years of substantially no exports to Asia will it take for them to wake up?

Maxine-Do you think NCBA should change their position against competing in Asia?

You must be dreaming to think R-Calf or their actions caused prices to advance. Presence and cause are two entirely different events. You are either the most uninformed or most biased person on this planet with many of the totally unsupportable comments you make.

Do you have a clue how much corn prices have advanced? How much does the change in corn prices alter what feedlot operators can pay for feeders and calves all other factors being equal?

Do you even know how to compute the total gain in feed costs of a calf going on feed that will gain 500 pounds? I will give you a hint; that added cost, due the advance in corn prices, now exceeds $100 per head and it is far from being over. You have not seen anything yet if we even so much as have a hint of planting problems next spring. For your information the feeder and calf supply outside feedyards on October 1, inclusive of imports was down 139,000 head.

Feeders and calves were at record levels when the border was open and corn was $1.50 per bushel cheaper. The only change is the price of corn, so how can you deduce from that the open border is the cause of lower feeder and calf prices? Please explain your reasoning if there is any.

Agman,

You hit the nail right on the head. I think R-calf should take some insight from you. Oldtimer is like a little bird he chirps and chirps but really doesnt know what he's chirping about.... :lol:

 

[Econ101]

Maxine- What will it take this time before NCBA thinks prices are bad?...When R-CALF started and prices pf calves were in the $50-70 range and many ranch folks were going broke , they shocked Congress when they told them about the bad prices and tough times, since NCBA had been painting them a shiny picture of nothing being wrong...

Maxine- How low will NCBA let prices go and slaughter be rolled back before they quit backing the Tyson/Cargill USDA position against allowing private Packers to BSE test to open export markets? How many more years of substantially no exports to Asia will it take for them to wake up?

Maxine-Do you think NCBA should change their position against competing in Asia?

You must be dreaming to think R-Calf or their actions caused prices to advance. Presence and cause are two entirely different events. You are either the most uninformed or most biased person on this planet with many of the totally unsupportable comments you make.

Do you have a clue how much corn prices have advanced? How much does the change in corn prices alter what feedlot operators can pay for feeders and calves all other factors being equal?

Do you even know how to compute the total gain in feed costs of a calf going on feed that will gain 500 pounds? I will give you a hint; that added cost, due the advance in corn prices, now exceeds $100 per head and it is far from being over. You have not seen anything yet if we even so much as have a hint of planting problems next spring. For your information the feeder and calf supply outside feedyards on October 1, inclusive of imports was down 139,000 head.

Feeders and calves were at record levels when the border was open and corn was $1.50 per bushel cheaper. The only change is the price of corn, so how can you deduce from that the open border is the cause of lower feeder and calf prices? Please explain your reasoning if there is any.

Agman,

You hit the nail right on the head. I think R-calf should take some insight from you. Oldtimer is like a little bird he chirps and chirps but really doesnt know what he's chirping about.... :lol:

Another Canadian siding with packers in U.S. policy instead of fixing the lack of competition in their own country. If you solved that problem, then rcalf wouldn't have such a case for a closed border except maybe bse or other real disease problems that Canadians can't solve.

A $20.00 test would solve that problem in Canada.

 

[Sandhusker]

Man. Ran. "Agman, You hit the nail right on the head. I think R-calf should take some insight from you. Oldtimer is like a little bird he chirps and chirps but really doesnt know what he's chirping about.... "

Do you realize this is the guy who said "we" can make more money buying imported product instead of buying domestic? This is the guy who told us Japan wasn't asking for testing. This is the guy who told us Tyson and Cargill were in Canada to serve the local markets. This is the guy who told us the Japanese would scramble to get our beef. You think R-CALF should take insight from him..... no thanks. There's enough advice from packer lackeys masquerading as friends of producers to go around.

 

[agman]

You must be dreaming to think R-Calf or their actions caused prices to advance. Presence and cause are two entirely different events. You are either the most uninformed or most biased person on this planet with many of the totally unsupportable comments you make.

Do you have a clue how much corn prices have advanced? How much does the change in corn prices alter what feedlot operators can pay for feeders and calves all other factors being equal?

Do you even know how to compute the total gain in feed costs of a calf going on feed that will gain 500 pounds? I will give you a hint; that added cost, due the advance in corn prices, now exceeds $100 per head and it is far from being over. You have not seen anything yet if we even so much as have a hint of planting problems next spring. For your information the feeder and calf supply outside feedyards on October 1, inclusive of imports was down 139,000 head.

Feeders and calves were at record levels when the border was open and corn was $1.50 per bushel cheaper. The only change is the price of corn, so how can you deduce from that the open border is the cause of lower feeder and calf prices? Please explain your reasoning if there is any.

Agman,

You hit the nail right on the head. I think R-calf should take some insight from you. Oldtimer is like a little bird he chirps and chirps but really doesnt know what he's chirping about.... :lol:

Another Canadian siding with packers in U.S. policy instead of fixing the lack of competition in their own country. If you solved that problem, then rcalf wouldn't have such a case for a closed border except maybe bse or other real disease problems that Canadians can't solve.

A $20.00 test would solve that problem in Canada.

Only some such as yourself with your endless accusations and claims that you can't ever support believes there is no competition. That only shows how totally intellectually inept you are regarding regarding the intense competiton in the marketplace.

 

[agman]

Man. Ran. "Agman, You hit the nail right on the head. I think R-calf should take some insight from you. Oldtimer is like a little bird he chirps and chirps but really doesnt know what he's chirping about.... "

Do you realize this is the guy who said "we" can make more money buying imported product instead of buying domestic? This is the guy who told us Japan wasn't asking for testing. This is the guy who told us Tyson and Cargill were in Canada to serve the local markets. This is the guy who told us the Japanese would scramble to get our beef. You think R-CALF should take insight from him..... no thanks. There's enough advice from packer lackeys masquerading as friends of producers to go around.

If you cannot understand how importing product can help the total value of domestic product you need to go back to elementary banking or at least take some basic math.

If Japan wanted testing as you continually imply why are they taking untested meat? Fact - they never insisted on testing.

Yes, the junior loan officer knows more about international economics and trade then the top economists in the fed. I am still awaiting your presentation. I am certain it has not been made available since you have been engaged in hardcore research of this subject!!! Tell that to your friends who play in your sandbox. There are exceptions as I noted; there are few absolutes. Do you recall the data I supplied regarding Cargill and corn exports from Brazil. Looks to me like that is an extreme case of only serving the local market. When you actually do any real research on this subject then we can engage in more debate. Until than you are just a waste of my time.

Yes, they do scramble to buy our beef as I said they would. The limitation is product identification per established guidelines which is limiting exports as I have often correctly stated. The truth regarding that is evidently beyond your comprehension ability. When product is made available are people standing in line to buy it or not? All the evidence is that it sells out immediately. I quess you missed that in your haste to make another unsupportable claim and only post negatives.

If you actually did any credible research on your own instead of parroting those who probably understand even less than you, you might gain some credibility.

Perhaps if you actually knew anything about packer operations you might not be so quick to accuse those who counter the streams of misinformation from the likes of you and R- Calf.

Nebraska by 21 over the Puffs.

 

[Sandhusker]

If you're "we" group bypasses domestic for foreign so you can make more money, then there is no domestic product to have any value added to it. Remember - you're not buying it - the beef is still in the pasture.

Japan asked for testing. That is an undisputable fact. Statements like that are why I don't think much of your information.

Your long-winded rant aside, is Tyson and Cargill in Canada to serve the local market or not? "Local" does not include the US in this case.

Some Japanese are standing in line to get our beef because we're only trickleing it in. You could limit exotic pet snake imports to a fraction of what they were and some people would be standing in line for them, too. Would that mean everybody wanted them? The rest of the story is millions are being spent to "regain trust". Why would that be necessary if the Japanese wanted our beef so bad?

If you didn't try to BS people so much, you would have more credibility.

NU 34
CU 10

 

[Econ101]

Agman,

You hit the nail right on the head. I think R-calf should take some insight from you. Oldtimer is like a little bird he chirps and chirps but really doesnt know what he's chirping about.... :lol:

Another Canadian siding with packers in U.S. policy instead of fixing the lack of competition in their own country. If you solved that problem, then rcalf wouldn't have such a case for a closed border except maybe bse or other real disease problems that Canadians can't solve.

A $20.00 test would solve that problem in Canada.

Only some such as yourself with your endless accusations and claims that you can't ever support believes there is no competition. That only shows how totally intellectually inept you are regarding regarding the intense competiton in the marketplace.

The Packers and Stockyards does not allow the "competition" to come out of the producer's pocket when they don't have a share in the profits when prices go up. That is how it is in the poultry market under the current system and that is what will happen when the big four or five do what Johns advocated. They won't compete, they will collude. It is in their best interest to do so with the burden of proof so high and they will do it as long as the courts look the other way.

In addition, the big boys will try to keep the little guys from getting any bigger and being a real competitor. That is exactly what they did to Creekstone, sacrificing additional food safety measures and providing a product that appeals to their customer. How much meat has Creekstone sent to Japan and sold, Agman? The proof is in the numbers. Money talks and your BS walks at the expense of the producers having another buyer.

Characterize it any way you want Agman, you are still promoting packers over producers in this scenario.

 

[fedup2]

MRJ writes ["Guess it's a good think Beef import totasls are running well below 2005 levels, probably ending the year down by at least 5%, with the largest declines in beef from Canada."]

Don't total your % downs yet MRJ. I have a friend in Neb who hauls cattle. His mother told me today, that he and many others from his area, have been hauling steady from Canada to the packers in Neb & Greely Colo. The last couple of weeks has been round trips as fast as they can make them. He says he will be doing it for awhile as there are a lot more cattle lined up.

 

[Big Muddy rancher]

MRJ writes ["Guess it's a good think Beef import totasls are running well below 2005 levels, probably ending the year down by at least 5%, with the largest declines in beef from Canada."]

Don't total your % downs yet MRJ. I have a friend in Neb who hauls cattle. His mother told me today, that he and many others from his area, have been hauling steady from Canada to the packers in Neb & Greely Colo. The last couple of weeks has been round trips as fast as they can make them. He says he will be doing it for awhile as there are a lot more cattle lined up.

So fedup what percentage of your total kill would those truckers be hauling. On one hand you guys tell us about all the cattle that are being imported from Canada then on the other hand we just have a insignificant amout when compared to places like Nebraska.

We must be one or the other . Or is it just what fits the story.

 

[agman]

Maxine- What will it take this time before NCBA thinks prices are bad?...When R-CALF started and prices pf calves were in the $50-70 range and many ranch folks were going broke , they shocked Congress when they told them about the bad prices and tough times, since NCBA had been painting them a shiny picture of nothing being wrong...

Maxine- How low will NCBA let prices go and slaughter be rolled back before they quit backing the Tyson/Cargill USDA position against allowing private Packers to BSE test to open export markets? How many more years of substantially no exports to Asia will it take for them to wake up?

Maxine-Do you think NCBA should change their position against competing in Asia?

You must be dreaming to think R-Calf or their actions caused prices to advance. Presence and cause are two entirely different events. You are either the most uninformed or most biased person on this planet with many of the totally unsupportable comments you make.

Action and the following reaction proves a whole lot more than months and months/ actually years and years of experts sitting in their penthouses prognosticicating...And usually prognostications which have to be altered continually with excuses and slight of hand to finally make them be close to being right....The Border issue has proof- Border closed= Record prices......Prices I never saw any of the Ouija board readers predicting

Do you have a clue how much corn prices have advanced? How much does the change in corn prices alter what feedlot operators can pay for feeders and calves all other factors being equal?

I believe it was $3.32 yesterday...

Do you even know how to compute the total gain in feed costs of a calf going on feed that will gain 500 pounds? I will give you a hint; that added cost, due the advance in corn prices, now exceeds $100 per head and it is far from being over. You have not seen anything yet if we even so much as have a hint of planting problems next spring. For your information the feeder and calf supply outside feedyards on October 1, inclusive of imports was down 139,000 head.


Feeders and calves were at record levels when the border was open and corn was $1.50 per bushel cheaper. The only change is the price of corn, so how can you deduce from that the open border is the cause of lower feeder and calf prices? Please explain your reasoning if there is any.

Agman I was probably figuring gain/feed/sale prices before you was a glimmer in your Daddy's eye-altho I was not using corn prices, but instead barley and other grain prices/availability...Started selling fat beef in the 50's and 60's- even fed out lambs and hogs back then too...I'm aware that the feeding costs effect the prices- but there are other factors also- fuel costs, truck shortages, lower demand ( which is being fueled by your revered NCBA's refusal to support exporting or open competition by the Creekstones of the world) etc. etc. that were affecting the prices the last week - But you will never convince me or many others who have watched it for years, as transX truck after Trans X truck- and bull hauler after bull hauler all headed south with a one way trade, that the availability and supply of beef from Canada which is brought into the US and fraudulently sold to US consumers as US beef doesn't play a major role....You are doing the same thing that you accuse me of doing- Not using a major factor in your decision making- and the border being open/closed and imports as a whole are a major factor in the price...

Agman- You blew your bias and your supposed expertise with me when you went with the Big Packers/NCBA and against true open free enterprise and markets with your support of USDA's denial to Creekstone and the other Packers that wanted to test- and then said that the Japanese and Asians would be crawling all over each other for US beef as soon as it got there... What a joke... How many years has it been now? :lol: :lol: Come back next year when Japan and Asia are still negotiating and tell me that-- then maybe the year after- and the year after :wink: :lol: :lol:

And keep supporting NCBA and their president who "Doesn't want the US competing with any other beef producing countries :roll: :???: :lol:

"Action and reaction" you say, those are your words. Now explain why after the border opened prices set record highs. Where is the reaction you and your R-calf supporters were crying about; so much for your observation ability? Why don't you just muster the courage and integrity to admit you are wrong? Don't let facts get in your way OT, you stumble enough on your own. Closing the border was a factor but not the most important factor to higher prices.

Facts: The border was closed while the cattle industry was ending a liquidation period due to sustained drought. Herd rebuilding was beginning. During said period annual beef production declined from 27.2 billion pounds to 24 .8 billion pounds. Domestic cow slaughter declined from a peak of 7.2 million head to 4.8 million head annually, a decline of 2.4 million head. Do you still believe stopping 330,000 Canadian cows from entering the U.S annually impacted the market more than a drop in domestic cow slaughter of 2.4 million head? The truth is not too difficult to comprehend if you put your bias aside. The advance in prices was consistent with previous cattle cycles? How do you explain that OT.

While you stated corn was at $3.32 per bushel that is as meaningless as your other observation regarding the border. How much is it up from last year at this time and how much does that alter the value of a feeder or calf today, all things being equal? Instead of answering the question you provided a meaningless personal historical dissertation.

I have stated previously that the BSE issue is larger than testing or not testing. To cave into meaningless testing would only open the door further for other countries to restrict trade for any reason they desire. Where would that stop? Since monetary tariff barriers have been reduced the new tactic is to use food safety issues as a tariff barrier. Europe tried it with GMO grain. That is the broader issue. I am in agreement with that while I believe one can also make a valid economic argument for testing. I am willing to stand pat on what I believe is the broader trade issue though - the imposition of phony trade barriers.

I did not choose sides for or against Creekstone. I chose sides based upon a long term and broader trade issue. If that is beyond your comprehension ability just admit to it. Don't come up with this big packer versus small packer excuse or Packer/USDA/NCBA garbage. It is highly likely that they know alot more about the total issue than you do. I would bet on that.

I guess you are a misinformed as Sandy regarding the acceptance of U.S beef in Japan. That is truly sad. Adequate supply is the issue, not consumer demand. You might get up to speed on that fact. You might even ask Creekstone if that is not true.

Regarding research and changing expected results based upon changing conditions is the smart thing to do. I don't expect you to understand that. Given your numerous complaints concerning that situation I am must assume you always think you know in advance all the events that derive a given result. Someone like you who says the "border was closed and price went up" believing that one was the cause of the other is why you are making this phony claim to close the border-so much for your analytical ability.

You either are unaware of all the factors that influence prices or you let your bias skew your judgment. In either case your opinion is rendered meaningless. Will you answer the question as to why prices set records well after the border was opened? If your stated conclusion from your observation is correct prices should have declined immediately upon the opening of the border - "action and reaction" as you say. The results prove other wise. Is Newton's third law of motion wrong or are you just wrong?