the_jersey_lilly_2000
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Well dern, I missed it. Wonder if they'll do a re run???....they seem to run ever thang else over n over again on cable. Except somethin you really wanna see. I'll hafta check into that.
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gunslinger
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Well Bob saw you like three times, but the TV was cutting in and out. How did you come by the part? Some of it did not look like it was filmed in Texas. Anyway mom said as a kid you always wanted to play the Indian not the other side. :wink:
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Jinglebob was in at lest a dozon scenes that I could tell and they had a real good close up of his mug one time. They also colored his hair and beard for some scenes. It was alittle easier for me to catch him cause I've rode with the bugger enough to even recognise his horse.
They didn't have any scenes of guitar playing ,singing or poetry reciting or they would have really used him alot.
I'm alittle jealous cause he gets to do all the fun stuff.
They didn't have any scenes of guitar playing ,singing or poetry reciting or they would have really used him alot.
I'm alittle jealous cause he gets to do all the fun stuff.
Sandhusker
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I thought I was going to be in "Terms of Endearment". They filmed at the University of Nebraska campus when I was going to school there. Another fella and I got to walk past Debra Winger a few times in a scene. When the movie came out, the scene wasn't there. My only shot at stardom ended on the cutting room floor.
OldDog/NewTricks
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Jinglebob said:Wish I' have know that BEFORE I told every one -
I was an extre in 3 scenes, that ended up on the cutting room floor, of "One Eyed Jacks". My horse was 'not gun shy' so she made it into several scenes. (Ben Johnson lover her) (Little Money but Good Food)
I had to live for years with a horse that had a bigger EGGO than mine. Every time I tried to give her "what for" my friends would say "Who's The Star"
East of Eden (TV Series)
I was all ready doing electrical work on the ranch.
I was paid extra to take down all the lights fixtures in side and out of the old house and put new wood over the spot - - was warned - got paid up frount - - when the film co. moved out the ranch had to pay me to rehang the fixtures. - - Good T & M money on both ends :?
Shelly
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I don't have a claim to fame, but way back when I was a little kid, a film crew came around and made a movie called Paperback Hero. Probably only a few Canadians on here would've ever seen that movie. It was about a hockey player. Anyways, they used our little hamlet of Laura for a few of the scenes, and we'd spend all day watching them shoot the same scene over and over again. The main parts of the movie was shot in Delisle, home of the famous Bentley brothers who played hockey for the big leagues. I happened to catch this movie on satellite earlier this year. The thing that amazed me the most, so many years after this movie was made, is that Delisle bar still looks exactly the same today (inside and out) as it did way back then! Watching the movie sure pulled up alot of childhood memories.
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I helped chase buffalo (well rode along in the pickups) and seen a good portion of Dances With Wolves filmed.....atleast the Fort Sedgewick and Buffalo scenes! Keven Coster talked to me and said "Boy can you get me a bottle of water?" HAHA. I met a lot of neat people then...although I was only about 10. That was the year i was the only kid in my country school so school got out pretty much when we wanted it to and I had a lot of time so i could go watch and help with the movie with my folks.
One lady i'll never forget was Doris Leader Charge. She was this little old Sioux lady who was responsible for teaching the actors the Lakota language for the movie. Sweet little lady...I have a picture of me standing with her....wish i could post it.
It was fun to be there seeing it filmed and seeing how many takes a one minute scene can take to get. Also how fake some scenes actually are but yet look so real on film. Like the buffalo hunt scene or the eating of the liver scene..etc..haha
Anyway....thats my movie experience!! haha :lol: :lol:
One lady i'll never forget was Doris Leader Charge. She was this little old Sioux lady who was responsible for teaching the actors the Lakota language for the movie. Sweet little lady...I have a picture of me standing with her....wish i could post it.
It was fun to be there seeing it filmed and seeing how many takes a one minute scene can take to get. Also how fake some scenes actually are but yet look so real on film. Like the buffalo hunt scene or the eating of the liver scene..etc..haha
Anyway....thats my movie experience!! haha :lol: :lol:
I've never even been close to a film but was in a restaurant once and Chuck Norris came over to our table and introduced himself- even shook hands all around with everyone and asked us what we were doing there.
At the time he looked the same as he looked on film. Can't say I'm a fan of his type movie despite all that. We enjoyed meeting you ranchers far more than ol' Chuckie!
Mr nr and I met a stunt man in "Silverado" where he rode a horse with a steel cable attached to a thick leather vest under his shirt with the other end attached to an anchor. He had to ride at a gallop until jerked out of the saddle when he was "shot". He said it nearly killed him the first time but they had to re-shoot 3 times because they said he had a grimace just before the cable got tight. :shock: He also said his worst mistake was deciding not to have a part in "Lonesome Dove". We met him as our mule driver going down the Grand Canyon.
At the time he looked the same as he looked on film. Can't say I'm a fan of his type movie despite all that. We enjoyed meeting you ranchers far more than ol' Chuckie!
Mr nr and I met a stunt man in "Silverado" where he rode a horse with a steel cable attached to a thick leather vest under his shirt with the other end attached to an anchor. He had to ride at a gallop until jerked out of the saddle when he was "shot". He said it nearly killed him the first time but they had to re-shoot 3 times because they said he had a grimace just before the cable got tight. :shock: He also said his worst mistake was deciding not to have a part in "Lonesome Dove". We met him as our mule driver going down the Grand Canyon.
the_jersey_lilly_2000
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I drive by Chuck Norris' place ever time I go into town. I've seen him a time or two comin and going thru his Ranch Gate (Lone Wolf Ranch).......never met him lol
Then last year we were in my home town in west texas...went to eat mexican food at a place called vickies......noticed a bunch came in, man woman and some kids....all dressed kinda scraggly....they sat at the table behind us. Mr Lilly said he thought the guy looked familiar...other than that didnt think nothin of it......an hour after we left, my brother called me and asked, "Do you know who that was???" I said "Who who was???"
He explained and told me it was Tim McGraw and Faith Hill and their kids.....I kid you not, I looked at them and never recognized them. Incognito po white trash. But hey, I can see why they'd do it, not ever bein able to go anywhere without bein recognized......so they "dressed down" lol
Then last year we were in my home town in west texas...went to eat mexican food at a place called vickies......noticed a bunch came in, man woman and some kids....all dressed kinda scraggly....they sat at the table behind us. Mr Lilly said he thought the guy looked familiar...other than that didnt think nothin of it......an hour after we left, my brother called me and asked, "Do you know who that was???" I said "Who who was???"
He explained and told me it was Tim McGraw and Faith Hill and their kids.....I kid you not, I looked at them and never recognized them. Incognito po white trash. But hey, I can see why they'd do it, not ever bein able to go anywhere without bein recognized......so they "dressed down" lol
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I was waitin' for you to say it was the Chuck Norris family.
Wrong again.
Wrong again.
the_jersey_lilly_2000
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hehehe nope, just my 2 "almost" brushes with fame....
Liberty Belle
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Hey Jinglebob - I found this in the Rapid City Journal today. Is this just more of the hot air we are getting used to?
Indian re-enactor claims exploitation
By Steve Miller, Journal Staff Writer
RAPID CITY -- An American Indian re-enactor who has worked on movies and television shows in South Dakota says some film companies have not kept their promises to him and others.
Mark Lone Hill of Rapid City says he and other Indian re-enactors did not get all of the work they were promised on the History Channel documentary "Comanche Warriors," filmed last month south of Hot Springs.
He also says it took nearly three months to get paid for all of his work on a project filmed in Montana in September.
"These Native American movies, when they come in, it's nothing more than exploiting Native Americans," Lone Hill said. "They promise certain pay. Then, they don't do it."
Lone Hill said Lloyd Bald Eagle, the Indian re-enactor coordinator for "Comanche Warriors," promised him five days of work on the project in early October. But he was used for only two days.
Bald Eagle could not be reached for comment.
Jim Hatzell of Rapid City, production coordinator for "Comanche Warriors," said Lone Hill should not have been promised five days' work.
But Hatzell said both he and Bald Eagle, a veteran re-enactor from Red Scaffold, were hampered in their planning by not having a script for the documentary until the second day of shooting.
"When we got out to the set, we found out it was covering 40 years of history," Hatzell said. That meant the same re-enactors couldn't be used over and over in scenes covering the long time period. "The largest number of Indians they used in any one day was seven," Hatzell said. "Most days, it was about four or five."
The same limitation applied to the cavalry re-enactors, Hatzell said. "We couldn't use the same guys over and over again for such a small show."
But Hatzell said he and Bald Eagle didn't know that in advance. "It was a misunderstanding," Hatzell said.
Lone Hill says he understands now that the documentary couldn't use the same people repeatedly. "But I was promised five days," he said. Lone Hill said he took a week off from his regular job to work on the film.
Lone Hill also says he was promised pay of $250 a day as long as he brought his own horse and costume, but he was paid only $190 one day and $150 for another day.
Hatzell said if more costumes are required than the one brought by the re-enactor, they must be rented from a costume person, in effect, reducing the re-enactor's pay.
Lone Hill said he also was promised a motel room in Hot Springs to stay in while he worked on the documentary, which was filmed on the Black Hills Wild Horse Sanctuary.
"When I get down there, they say, 'No, you've got to drive back and forth every day,'" Lone Hill said.
Hatzell said Lone Hill probably had a legitimate complaint about the motel room. But he said motel rooms were reserved only for people who were actually working the next day.
Hatzell said the cable TV documentary companies, such as the one that did "Comanche Warriors," have tight budgets. "They watch every nickel."
Hatzell said none of the cavalry re-enactors for "Comanche Warriors" got motel rooms because they camped with their horses on the set, including on the day it snowed.
Lone Hill also said some Indian women re-enactors hadn't been paid yet for "Comanche Warriors."
Hatzell said none of the cavalry re-enactors, including him, has been paid yet for their work on the documentary. He said such delays are not unusual.
Lone Hill said he isn't angry with Hatzell. "Everything he promises, he does."
He said his biggest complaint is that it took three months to get paid for work he did on a project filmed in Montana. He said he was told he would be paid within two weeks. He finally received his check Tuesday.
"These guys are like carnival people," Lone Hill said. "They're fly by night."
Lone Hill said other Indian re-enactors don't speak out about their frustrations because they are afraid they won't get hired for film projects again.
Lone Hill said he has been working as an Indian re-enactor since "The Last of the Mohicans" in 1991. The re-enactors and extras went on strike during that filming.
"It was more than a pay issue," Lone Hill said. "We felt we were being treated pretty bad on that set." Actors Russell Means, Daniel Day-Lewis and Wes Studi joined them on the picket lines.
Lone Hill said there are some good film companies. He praised Broadview Media of Minneapolis, which filmed a reality show at One-Eyed Jacks casino in Deadwood earlier this year. He was a production assistant for that show. "Those people treated me real well," Lone Hill said. The show will air Jan. 10, he said.
He said the state film office doesn't have any power over film companies because they don't have to be licensed to work in South Dakota. "There should be a state law for licensing and penalties for not paying people on time," Lone Hill said.
State Sen. Jim Lintz, R-Hermosa, who is also president of the Black Hills Film Resource Council, said he doesn't doubt that some film companies have exploited Indian re-enactors.
"I'm sure there's some of that," said Lintz, who also works as a medic on movie sets here.
But Lintz said he doesn't believe state government should be controlling the film business.
He said re-enactors and other film workers know the terms of the contracts they sign when they go to work. "If the terms aren't what they want, then don't go to work," Lintz said.
However, Lintz said he wouldn't oppose licensing or registration of film companies because that would help the state keep track of the projects in South Dakota and their economic impact.
Hatzell said Indian re-enactors in the past have sometimes gotten raw deals. On TNT's "Crazy Horse" filmed here 10 years ago, the white cavalry re-enactors were allowed to bring their own horses, meaning they got paid more. The Indian re-enactors found out and complained that they weren't allowed to bring their own horses and earn the same pay. "They were riding these crappy production horses," Hatzell said. "I figured, that's not fair."
On "Comanche Warriors," Hatzell said, he made sure all re-enactors had a chance to bring their own horses.
Contact Steve Miller at 394-8417 or [email protected].
November 28, 2005
http://rapidcityjournal.com/articles/2005/11/28/news/top/news02.txt
Indian re-enactor claims exploitation
By Steve Miller, Journal Staff Writer
RAPID CITY -- An American Indian re-enactor who has worked on movies and television shows in South Dakota says some film companies have not kept their promises to him and others.
Mark Lone Hill of Rapid City says he and other Indian re-enactors did not get all of the work they were promised on the History Channel documentary "Comanche Warriors," filmed last month south of Hot Springs.
He also says it took nearly three months to get paid for all of his work on a project filmed in Montana in September.
"These Native American movies, when they come in, it's nothing more than exploiting Native Americans," Lone Hill said. "They promise certain pay. Then, they don't do it."
Lone Hill said Lloyd Bald Eagle, the Indian re-enactor coordinator for "Comanche Warriors," promised him five days of work on the project in early October. But he was used for only two days.
Bald Eagle could not be reached for comment.
Jim Hatzell of Rapid City, production coordinator for "Comanche Warriors," said Lone Hill should not have been promised five days' work.
But Hatzell said both he and Bald Eagle, a veteran re-enactor from Red Scaffold, were hampered in their planning by not having a script for the documentary until the second day of shooting.
"When we got out to the set, we found out it was covering 40 years of history," Hatzell said. That meant the same re-enactors couldn't be used over and over in scenes covering the long time period. "The largest number of Indians they used in any one day was seven," Hatzell said. "Most days, it was about four or five."
The same limitation applied to the cavalry re-enactors, Hatzell said. "We couldn't use the same guys over and over again for such a small show."
But Hatzell said he and Bald Eagle didn't know that in advance. "It was a misunderstanding," Hatzell said.
Lone Hill says he understands now that the documentary couldn't use the same people repeatedly. "But I was promised five days," he said. Lone Hill said he took a week off from his regular job to work on the film.
Lone Hill also says he was promised pay of $250 a day as long as he brought his own horse and costume, but he was paid only $190 one day and $150 for another day.
Hatzell said if more costumes are required than the one brought by the re-enactor, they must be rented from a costume person, in effect, reducing the re-enactor's pay.
Lone Hill said he also was promised a motel room in Hot Springs to stay in while he worked on the documentary, which was filmed on the Black Hills Wild Horse Sanctuary.
"When I get down there, they say, 'No, you've got to drive back and forth every day,'" Lone Hill said.
Hatzell said Lone Hill probably had a legitimate complaint about the motel room. But he said motel rooms were reserved only for people who were actually working the next day.
Hatzell said the cable TV documentary companies, such as the one that did "Comanche Warriors," have tight budgets. "They watch every nickel."
Hatzell said none of the cavalry re-enactors for "Comanche Warriors" got motel rooms because they camped with their horses on the set, including on the day it snowed.
Lone Hill also said some Indian women re-enactors hadn't been paid yet for "Comanche Warriors."
Hatzell said none of the cavalry re-enactors, including him, has been paid yet for their work on the documentary. He said such delays are not unusual.
Lone Hill said he isn't angry with Hatzell. "Everything he promises, he does."
He said his biggest complaint is that it took three months to get paid for work he did on a project filmed in Montana. He said he was told he would be paid within two weeks. He finally received his check Tuesday.
"These guys are like carnival people," Lone Hill said. "They're fly by night."
Lone Hill said other Indian re-enactors don't speak out about their frustrations because they are afraid they won't get hired for film projects again.
Lone Hill said he has been working as an Indian re-enactor since "The Last of the Mohicans" in 1991. The re-enactors and extras went on strike during that filming.
"It was more than a pay issue," Lone Hill said. "We felt we were being treated pretty bad on that set." Actors Russell Means, Daniel Day-Lewis and Wes Studi joined them on the picket lines.
Lone Hill said there are some good film companies. He praised Broadview Media of Minneapolis, which filmed a reality show at One-Eyed Jacks casino in Deadwood earlier this year. He was a production assistant for that show. "Those people treated me real well," Lone Hill said. The show will air Jan. 10, he said.
He said the state film office doesn't have any power over film companies because they don't have to be licensed to work in South Dakota. "There should be a state law for licensing and penalties for not paying people on time," Lone Hill said.
State Sen. Jim Lintz, R-Hermosa, who is also president of the Black Hills Film Resource Council, said he doesn't doubt that some film companies have exploited Indian re-enactors.
"I'm sure there's some of that," said Lintz, who also works as a medic on movie sets here.
But Lintz said he doesn't believe state government should be controlling the film business.
He said re-enactors and other film workers know the terms of the contracts they sign when they go to work. "If the terms aren't what they want, then don't go to work," Lintz said.
However, Lintz said he wouldn't oppose licensing or registration of film companies because that would help the state keep track of the projects in South Dakota and their economic impact.
Hatzell said Indian re-enactors in the past have sometimes gotten raw deals. On TNT's "Crazy Horse" filmed here 10 years ago, the white cavalry re-enactors were allowed to bring their own horses, meaning they got paid more. The Indian re-enactors found out and complained that they weren't allowed to bring their own horses and earn the same pay. "They were riding these crappy production horses," Hatzell said. "I figured, that's not fair."
On "Comanche Warriors," Hatzell said, he made sure all re-enactors had a chance to bring their own horses.
Contact Steve Miller at 394-8417 or [email protected].
November 28, 2005
http://rapidcityjournal.com/articles/2005/11/28/news/top/news02.txt
Jinglebob
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The quotes from Jim were right. I didn't know up until the last minute how many horses to take or how many days I would work. We got paid whether the scenes were used or not.
Not great pay unless you had equipment and horses and not even real great then, unless you lived close to the area. Got to stay in my range teepee at night and freeze my tookis, so that made it fun!
Gunslinger, you asked how I got involved with this "shoot." There is an Artist Ride every year where Western Artists from all over the country are invitied to come to this part of the country and take pictures for paintings that they will paint. We stress realism on the part of the models. Some artists are knowledgeable about what was really used and worn for the time period and others aren't. It's our jobs as models to show the artists and model what would be right, for any given time period. Any way, Jim is the head guy of the ride for the last few years and he was the one who located the local talent. I was invited to the shoot by him. He had certain parts he wanted me for.
All of the extra's who had horses were very knowledgeable about gear from the time period we were shooting. Some very nice reproduction guns were there and also a few from that time period.
One of the teepees was made from brain tanned buffalo hides, made in the old traditional ways. Amazing how much light it let shine thru' while retaining warmth.
For my part, I enjoy preserving history and want to get it right and feel the rest of the models feel the same way.
Not great pay unless you had equipment and horses and not even real great then, unless you lived close to the area. Got to stay in my range teepee at night and freeze my tookis, so that made it fun!
Gunslinger, you asked how I got involved with this "shoot." There is an Artist Ride every year where Western Artists from all over the country are invitied to come to this part of the country and take pictures for paintings that they will paint. We stress realism on the part of the models. Some artists are knowledgeable about what was really used and worn for the time period and others aren't. It's our jobs as models to show the artists and model what would be right, for any given time period. Any way, Jim is the head guy of the ride for the last few years and he was the one who located the local talent. I was invited to the shoot by him. He had certain parts he wanted me for.
All of the extra's who had horses were very knowledgeable about gear from the time period we were shooting. Some very nice reproduction guns were there and also a few from that time period.
One of the teepees was made from brain tanned buffalo hides, made in the old traditional ways. Amazing how much light it let shine thru' while retaining warmth.
For my part, I enjoy preserving history and want to get it right and feel the rest of the models feel the same way.
