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Using a Hackamore

I agree with AZ-PUNCHER on the Pat Parelli deal, not that hes isnt a good hand with a horse, I just dont buy into the Horsee Voodoo stuff. I got to see Ray Hunt work a bunch of colts in Pecos Tx in 1987, and that was cool.I crack up watching all these peaple chase these clinicians around these days, but Faster Horses is right, they cant do anything but help the horse market.I happened to be helpin out a friend last year at the expo center in Austin, while Dennis Reis was doin his thing, and we watched that for a couple hours for free, it was a total joke, he has a young cowboy (crash test dummie}get on all his stuff for him before they start filming to see if it bucks. If it doesnt, they turn on the camera and Reis climbs on and starts talking horse whisperer.Craig Cameron is the real deal, keeps it simple, and starts a horse from day one with the attitude that a horse should have a job, and miles make horses, not whispering in there ear or voodoo tricks. There are lots of guys out there just as good as these guys but no one knows about them except locals.
 
I worked my 4 yr old in the round pen yesterday and he did real well, so I saddled him up this morning and it got a little western.... :shock: I think I'll leave him saddled up till night when I work him again and see how it goes....
 
TWOROPES said:
There are lots of guys out there just as good as these guys but no one knows about them except locals.
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Yup, we got one around here who starts our colts and another moving back home this fall.

If you needed a colt to climb down into a badger holes, these two could convince them to do it and the colt would like it too.

Never get mean with a colt, just firm and fair.

One spent several winter starting colts with Buster in Texas.
 
Oh, I know those kind of guys too. One in fact that Curt Pate looks up to. Only Curt Pate got discovered and this other guy didn't. He was too busy taking care of his ranch.

Curt Pate, BTW, is a good man. Good with horses and good with his family. I've known him since forever... :wink: :lol:

And Craig Cameron...not everyone feels like you do about him. :shock:

Chris Cox is well-respected, that's for sure. And Clinton Anderson
just had a seminar in Rapid City. He is good, but he rushes things a
bit. But you can't argue with success. These guys are all making a ton
of money while the backyard horsepeople make fun of what they are doing. There is some merit to all of it.

I recommend Pat Parelli's book, "raise your hand if you love horses." It's a good read. And I talked with a fellow who used to make Pat Parelli's saddles, years back. His name is Cliff Lynch from Minden, Nv. He told me that if you think Pat is a good hand, you just haven't met his ex-wife, Karen. According to Mr. Lynch, Pat was just another bronc rider til he married her. She is what made him. This new wife, she was a cosmetic promoter and she is the one that really commmercialized him.

Well, so much for that. I'm so happy there are good horsemen out there that take horses to ride. That's the bottom line. The horses get treated as they should.

Another thing these 'horse whisperers' preach is SAFETY...and I do think that is of utmost importance.
 
I wouldnt give a buckett of pee for what curt pate rides i was wonderin when his name was gonna come up , i know him too and he is no hand maybe halter breakin a colt but not settin on a horse workin cattle , he came down here to arizona we had a big shin dig for horse folks and a few of us ranch cowboys were asked to come and " hold the herd " for these wanna be stuper stars to show off what they could do with their horses ha ha ha you wanna talk about a joke i never laughed so hard in my life until seeing them guys tryin to work cattle on " broke " horses ha ha . Charlie trayer was there with his hangin tree cowdogs and they didnt work worth a shirt , then curt pate was tryin to show off his ropin skills , then we were asked to leave the arena after we rode out into the middle of the arena and was makin his catches on the first throw and we were showin mr pate up and we were on just everyday ranch horses nothin fancy . He vowed when he left there he would never come back to Arizona and i cant say as he has ever been back that i know of anyway . Some of them trainer guys got it goin for them and some dont i mean if your a person that has no idea what your doin then i say more power to ya to go to them clinics .
 

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