per
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We used ultra sound to preg test this year. Anyone else try this? It was very fast and easy and I see potential for having a split screen to watch the game at the same time.
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hypocritexposer
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Dairy farmers have been using Ultra sound for quite some time, but why is the extra equipment/technology needed?
A vets arm should be just as accurate, without the added expense.
A vets arm should be just as accurate, without the added expense.
Justin
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i have been considering ultrasounding....what is the cost vs. arming them?
per
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Twice as fast. No mistakes, you can see the fetus well. Don't need the vet.
Less intrusive and easier on your arm.
Less intrusive and easier on your arm.
hypocritexposer
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per said:
If that's the way it goes, but pregnancy is a diagnosis. and that would be illegal by the Governments standards.
are you talking ultrasound that is outside the body? Vets still use ultrasound that is internal.
per
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Not sure of the cost yet as my vet uses it. I'm sure you would need more cattle than I do to justify a unit. My guess is it will be the same as using the arm. $3./cow last year.
per
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Not illegal to do your own just like the arm. We can also do our own C sections as well. Best not charge the neighbors for the service though. The unit used an internal probe.
hillsdown
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Per what kind of set up do they need , power etc.
hypocritexposer
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hillsdown said:
battery operated.
lazy ace
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I'm confused how is it easier on the arm....you still have to run the probe in and over the calf to see. speed wise how many can be done in an hour.
not trying to argue just curious.
have a cold one
lazy ace
not trying to argue just curious.
have a cold one
lazy ace
per
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Pretty simple. There was a battery for the monitor and the probe had an extension cord to the truck. Not sure if he had an inverter or not. Must not have used much power because the truck never ran the whole time and started alright.
hypocritexposer
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lazy ace said:
per
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The probe is a couple inches in diameter and on some he was 5 seconds up to 15 seconds. He double checked with the arm on a few empties. Never seen anyone arm them that fast. You can see the calf plain as day on the screen. After sever thousand head he does a week your arm gets tired. This thing takes no effort to put in. I changed tags to rfid on the ones that had bar codes and I definitely was the bottle neck this year. With a good set up and efficient crew and no old slow tagger I would think you could maintain 30 to 45 second a head. Couldn't tell too many stories at that rate.lazy ace said:
hypocritexposer
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per said:
On beef animals, I see the advantage being earlier preg checks, would you agree?
At what stage were these animals?
per
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Easy to check from a month on according to the vet.
lazy ace
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hypocritexposer said:
Oh for sure Ultrasound has its place and is great but how many ranchers are ultrasounding cows at 30 days? Around here they usually wean and then preg check and most pregnancies are bumping a solid 120 days and some are bumping past that. You must have a hell of a wing to get that deep and get it sexed. :lol:
Again I think ultrasound is great but still don't understand how it is easier on the arm? I have never ultrasounded but I have palpated a couple of head.
have a cold one
lazy ace
hypocritexposer
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that's the point, if it's faster for the vet on beef cattle, fine.
It is more accurate, but not necessarily on five month pregs. The arm is just as accurate.
If you are going to use it on 30 days, then it is worth the $$.
If your vet is doing enough dairy pregs, then by all means, take advantage of the cost of the ultrasound being spread over more cattle.
but it would not make sense to have a beef only doc having the equipment, would it?
It is more accurate, but not necessarily on five month pregs. The arm is just as accurate.
If you are going to use it on 30 days, then it is worth the $$.
If your vet is doing enough dairy pregs, then by all means, take advantage of the cost of the ultrasound being spread over more cattle.
but it would not make sense to have a beef only doc having the equipment, would it?
lazy ace
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per said:
thats whipping right along I guess what soured me on ultra sound was the fact that when we tried it the first time the vet would hold it in his right hand and go in with his left and come out and say "45 days" and then go in with the probe and confirm it. :roll: We do have our heifers ultrasounded early and the guy that does it now is really good. I just don't know if it is worth the cost if your cows are 45 days along.
have a cold one
lazy ace
per
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We check our hfs at 30 days. Each to their own, these guys have a large practice and regularly check 1000 a day all fall. If you are going to put your arm in anyway it sure wouldn't be much use. These were 60 days plus.
hypocritexposer
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Per, that's a bigger probe than I've seen before.
Most of the ones I've seen were about 1/3 third the length.
So maybe the tech has changed?
Can you use that one for horses?
Most of the ones I've seen were about 1/3 third the length.
So maybe the tech has changed?
Can you use that one for horses?
