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v10 vs. powerstroke

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Justin

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here is a question for the ford people....H, you stay out of this one :wink:

for those of you that drive v10's how do you like them? do they have enough power? what kind of mileage do you get empty and loaded? we have always drove diesels but the v10s are much cheaper to buy. so basically, i'm wondering the pros and cons of the v10s.
 
The people that have them that I know about, say they are real gas hogs.

But gas has been cheaper than diesel and you don't have to pay for
that diesel engine. We've had Dodge diesels since 1998 and have been
very pleased with them. What I don't get tho, is trading them off long
before the life of the diesel has been used up. I think they are expensive to maintain...but Mr. FH loves the Cummins diesel. We have a 2006 now and in looking at the new ones, they don't get the mileage that ours does.

We have friends that have a Ford, would it be a 6.0? and they
bought it new; have had major problems with it.

FWIW
 
The Ford 6.0 is job security for mechanics

Two rules on buying a 6.0

rules
1 Never buy a 6.0
2 If you ever think of buying a 6.0 refer to rule no 1
 
Haven't been around any V10s personally, but a neighbor had one for a short while. He never complained about power or mileage, but did have trouble with it stripping threads and blowing spark plugs out of the heads. The second time that happened, he traded it for a diesel and is very happy now.

As far as the diesels are concerned, I was talking with a friend who works as a mechanic for the local Ford/Dodge dealer the other day, and he told me not to go near anything with the 6.0 power stroke, and he's not too impressed with the new 6.4 yet either. He said the best bet would be to find a decent low miles 7.3 liter and drive it til it's dead if Ford is insisted upon. His first choice though was Dodge/Cummins :shock: :shock: :shock:
 
We were always Ford people until we bought the first Dodge. We actually felt like traitors!!!

When we bought the 06 Dodge in the fall of 05, we inquired about a
Ford and the salesman (who sold both Ford and Dodge) said,
"I wouldn't sell you a Ford. For every 10 Fords we get in the
repair shop, we get 1 Dodge."
:shock: :shock: :shock:
We have 50,000+ on this Dodge
and have not had a problem with it. Same with the other 2 Dodges,
except we had to do something to the front end of one Dodge.
Mr. FH isn't in here now, and I can't recall what it was. Wasn't real
expensive and they fixed it in town where they do wheel alignment.
 
I haven't had any personal experience, but our sale barn owner has one and I think he would say the fuel mileage is poor. Our Ford grage man says the V - 10 is pretty trouble free.

I drive a '04 Dodge / Cummins. It's my second one , has 111,000 miles on it and so far I've replaced the water pump. Last week I put 1,140 miles on it in two days running empty, got 21.7 mpg in actual check. The computer reported 22.7. The new Cummins won't do that , the Powerstroke nor the Duramax will do it either.
 
Biggest problem that I have found concerning the 6.0 is the EGF. Had it go out on the fire truck heading to a fire, we didn't make it.
Took it to a good repair shop and they replaced it and it runs like a raped ape.
truck doesn't even have 6000 miles on it.

Now proper mantance such as changing the oil every 3000 miles instead of the 5000 recommended helps that 6.0
We have had 2 different trucks with the 6.0, one had poor care and the injector's were needing to be replaced. This other one the only complaint I have on it, is it is an automatic.
 
I know a guy who has a V10...swears by the power, swears at the gas mileage. Says it'll out pull the diesel, but I think he's full of "it".

I own the 6.0 and wish I had my old Dodge diesel back. 6.0's been okay, but already had to have the turbo "cleaned" and something in it replaced, and it's only got 65,000 on it. To boot, Ford charges you a $100 deductible for any warranty work on their 100,000 mile guarantee. I don't think much of Ford and their policy.........
 
I had two friends that had Ford V10's. Both drive diesels now. One bought a Dodge and says he is shifting up now where his V10 was shifting down. Ford's 6.0 was a lemon. Just saw last week that to overhaul the engine, they have to remove the truck cab!!

I think the Dodge is clearly the best diesel, but I drive a Duramax. It has been trouble free but sure won't get more than 18MPG , We bought it because of the ride and the allison transmission.
 
Sorry justin, But i don't listen well. Just ask my wife! :wink: My '01 dodge has 207000 on it and though it shows its age, still runs great. Changed front wheel bearings twice but dodge's have weak front ends anyway if ya ask me. Did have to replace the computer at 120000 but that was caused by a bad wiring harness. My last Ford was a '97 460 3/4 ton and ya had to pull a tank trailer full of extra gas. My dodge gets an honest 24 with a K&N air filter and a Superchip. When I finally get another truck i'll look hard at the Chev with the Allison Tranny. Now could somebody explain why Diesel is more expensive than gas? And why a year and a half ago it was 65 cents a gallon more than gas and now it's 12 to 15 cents more? :roll:
 
A buddy of mine had a V-10 and he hated that thing. His lacked power but that might of been just his pickup, and his got horrible gas mileage. My dad has a 03 dodge and he loves his has a ton of power but rides like a rock. But he just uses his pulling his antique tractor to shows and tractor drives. I have a 01 chevy duramax and I really like mine. Has good power and I really like the allision tranny. I can get 18-20 mpg with mine if I keep the rpms around 2000-2100 just driving around which is around 70mph all the time :lol: But it does only get 10mpg pulling a trailer :? I had to replace the injectors on mine about 1yr and half ago, thank god that there was recall on them because the local dealer told me it was going to be $450 bucks PER INJECTOR plus the labor :???: Like to replace this one with a new one but they are so stickin over priced its not even funny :mad:
 
It suck you could find and 7.3 powerstroke. I brote and 03 about 3 years ago and put a superchip in it and get 24-26 pulling a trailer with cattle. I also have a 97 that is the same way. I wish they would change a good thing when it's good. :roll:
 
Faster horses said:
We were always Ford people until we bought the first Dodge. We actually felt like traitors!!!

When we bought the 06 Dodge in the fall of 05, we inquired about a
Ford and the salesman (who sold both Ford and Dodge) said,
"I wouldn't sell you a Ford. For every 10 Fords we get in the
repair shop, we get 1 Dodge."
:shock: :shock: :shock:
We have 50,000+ on this Dodge
and have not had a problem with it. Same with the other 2 Dodges,
except we had to do something to the front end of one Dodge.
Mr. FH isn't in here now, and I can't recall what it was. Wasn't real
expensive and they fixed it in town where they do wheel alignment.
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We used to be Ford people too until we bought an 06 Dodge with a Cummins in the fall of 07, we like it. It will out pull the Ford 7.3. We bought it because I didn't want a Ford 6.0 and it only had 28,000 miles on it. We've got 2 Ford 7.3's that I intend to run until they won't run any more. The local phone co-op runs a lot of Fords both V-10's and diesels. One of their employee's runs a F-450 with a 6.0 but it's in the shop so much that he ends up running one with a V-10. He says the V-10 will pull with the 6.0 but you have to run it hard. A neighbor has a V-10 that replaced one with a 460, the V-10 uses more gas.
 
thanks for the replys...H, you are excused...i knew you would come back with something :wink:
anyways, i guess i was asking the question for my dad. he has a 7.3 but the miles are getting pretty high. he wants another 7.3 but they are hard to come by unless he wants one with as many miles as his. and he does not want a 6.0, so he is debating on trying a v10.
i had two 7.3's then went to a 6.0, six months later i was back in a 03 7.3 and wouldn't trade it for anything.(ok, well maybe not anything...but i do like it)
dad doesn't pull alot, and doesn't drive like hes being chased, so personally i thought a v10 would work. but haven't been around them enough to know for sure
 
Currently have a V-10, a 7.3, and a 6.4. The 6.4 has less than 5,000 miles on it but no problems (yet :D ). The 7.3 has 110,000 and has been pulled hard, new turbo at 35,000, but other than that no problem. We bought the V-10 used but are closing in on 100,000 miles and haven't had a problem. Pretty hard to figure the fuel mileage with the way we use it...i would say definitely not the best but i wouldn't say horrible. The closest i can figure is 10-12 mpg. It has the horsepower, just not the torque of the 7.3. I was steered away from the 6.0 V8 gas from Chevrolet to the V-10 by numerous people. I take it the 6.0 gas must be pretty hard on fuel.

My Ford mechanic told me to never try the 6.0 ford diesel---in fact one close dealership won't even take them in on trades.

Never owned a Dodge, so I won't come down on them too hard, but my brother gets a new Dodge every year and about his only complaint is it's hard to keep the front end under them.
 
Justin go from a 6.9 diesel to the 7.3. Talk about power.
We also had an '02 7.3 we miss that truck at times. Hubby is waiting for the new diesel motor to come out.

you know these companies should give free trucks for ranchers to try out before the put them out there. We'll find the problems. :D :wink:
 
Justin said:
thanks for the replys...H, you are excused...i knew you would come back with something :wink:
anyways, i guess i was asking the question for my dad. he has a 7.3 but the miles are getting pretty high. he wants another 7.3 but they are hard to come by unless he wants one with as many miles as his. and he does not want a 6.0, so he is debating on trying a v10.
i had two 7.3's then went to a 6.0, six months later i was back in a 03 7.3 and wouldn't trade it for anything.(ok, well maybe not anything...but i do like it)
dad doesn't pull alot, and doesn't drive like hes being chased, so personally i thought a v10 would work. but haven't been around them enough to know for sure
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My vote would be to keep on driving the good 7.3. Spend whatever it takes, within reason, to keep it going and the cost will still be less than buying/trading for anything else--and you know what you got. My uncle operated on that theory with his combine. He had an old IH 1460 that got whatever it needed to keep it going, and he insisted on genuine IH parts--very seldom did anything get replaced with used parts. The thing had some unbelievable amount of hours on it when he passed away a few years ago, and my cousin still uses it. We joke that it's only half it's real age--anything important to it's operation is much newer than the shell of sheet metal it's contained in :D
 
I agree the 7.3 was a tough motor--I drive a Duramax and love them! Brother has Quad cab Cummins and gets way better mileage than me--I have a 08 Dually and get 16 in town--14 at 80--He gets 19 !!
6.0 and V10 are no good around here, although, if you find a 6.0 running good it is a Hoss !! :)
 
We have a 1997 Ford F350 crew cab 4x4 with the 7.3 diesel that was bought new. It now has 170,000 miles, and the only things we've had to do to it were to put in a master cylinder on the clutch in 2001, and a new starter about a month ago. It is a pulling machine. We very seldom ever drive it when it isn't pulling either a 24' gooseneck stock trailer or a 24' flatbed. It is a five-speed manual, and at highway speeds you can always drive it loaded in fifth gear. If by chance the pickup is driven without a trailer attached, you sure need to set the cruise control or you will be traveling way faster than the speed limit.
 

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