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CattleArmy

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Rural areas face veterinarian shortage By SHANNON DININNY, Associated Press Writer
Sat Mar 8, 2:46 PM ET



Bill Bennett has spent 45 years feeding and herding 2,500 cattle on his rolling eastern Washington ranch. He's also had to act as a doctor because he's unable to find a veterinarian who will come to his rural spread.

He's not alone, as farmers and ranchers across the country complain of a shortage of large-animal veterinarians. A federal program created in 2003 to help the situation sits dormant while the U.S. Department of Agriculture writes rules.

In addition to caring for livestock and pets, veterinarians monitor and inspect a large portion of the food supply and work as disease researchers. Food safety experts fear that public health is being endangered by the shortage.

Many states recognize the critical need and are approving or considering bills to provide tuition reimbursement or scholarships to veterinarians who agree to work in underserved areas. Those states include Washington, where Bennett has been championing rural veterinary care for years.

"I can't get a vet to save my life. I've tried for years to get one to move in here and start a practice and they don't want to do it. They want to do bigger cities and small animals," Bennett said. "I complain about them spending all our money educating dog and cat doctors."

Recent studies for the American Veterinary Medical Association indicate that demand for veterinarians nationally will increase by as much as 14 percent by 2016 but the shortfall will remain 4 to 5 percent annually. The nation's 28 veterinary schools graduate about 2,500 veterinarians annually, a number that hasn't grown for at least a couple of decades.

The seriousness of the shortage was highlighted with the recent recall of 143 million pounds of beef from a Chino, Calif., slaughterhouse. The recall launched a series of congressional hearings and close scrutiny of the USDA's meat and poultry inspection system.

The USDA has said it is short about 500 inspectors.

Considering the huge amount of the food supply that veterinarians monitor, "it's not like the remaining veterinarians can pick up the slack," said David Kirkpatrick, spokesman for the American Veterinary Medical Association at Schaumburg, Ill. "We're seeing more and more states taking steps to address the situation."

According to the National Conference of State Legislatures, eight states have implemented loan forgiveness programs for veterinarians who agree to work in underserved areas, and eight others are considering similar programs.

Vets tend to gravitate toward small-animal care because ranchers will often choose to slaughter a sick or injured animal rather than pay for expensive treatment, while a pet owner will spend heavily to save a treasured friend, said Warwick Bayly, dean of Washington State University's College of Veterinary Medicine.

"When you balance the needs for simple, day-to-day living plus repayment of sizable student loans, the debt often exceeds what you can expect to make in an agricultural area. It's just simple math," he said. "But that shouldn't be interpreted that people aren't interested."

Federal support has been slow to come. Veterinary groups have been pushing federal legislation that would award $1.5 billion in competitive grants so schools could expand.

The Veterinary Medical Service Act, signed into law by President Bush in 2003, has been delayed by the rule-making process. It would provide tuition reimbursement to veterinarians who agree to work in underserved areas, whether the shortage is a rural area, discipline or government agency. So far, nearly $1.9 million has been appropriated for it.

USDA officials have committed to working with Congress to find ways to speed and streamline the rule-making process to aid the private veterinary sector.

"The interest is high, and everyone is working hard to find a solution," said Robert Hedberg, acting director of governmental and legislative affairs for USDA's research mission area.

A solution can't come fast enough for Bennett, his son and the three grandchildren who work with him on his ranch.

Granddaughter Leslie, 28, agrees that a local veterinarian is needed.

"We have to haul or go a long ways to get things done," she said. "In a full day, it can mean a lot."
 
In Manitoba we have a solution that has worked pretty well. It does require some government money though, especially in the beginning. It may be that it is less than a lot of other solutions, once you add it all up though.

In rural areas they established Vet Boards. These are made up of representatives of local municipal governments, and are in charge of their local area. The government provides startup money to build a clinic and equip it. A vet is recruited to work in the clinic, having full use of the facilities at no charge. Once a clinic is up and running, it's just repairs and maintenance bills for the Vet Board to pay, and if a vet leaves, the clinic still belongs to the community.

In return, the vet takes care of the operating costs, and signs an agreement agreeing to a predetermined fee schedule. They also agree to service the local area first.

This helps young vets get started in a practice at a time when they are usually burdened with lots of student loans to pay off. It also guarantees the local people access to service at a reasonable cost. These clinics do serve large and small animals, and most will have more than one vet on staff.

It works here. The biggest problem we have regarding vets is the small number of graduates that come out of the University. They only accept a small number each year from Manitoba, and just like everywhere else, there is a good portion of them who aren't really interested in being up to the shoulder in the back end of a cow at three in the morning. Once we can get graduates who are interested in large animals though, at least we do have something to offer them.
 
Wouldn't work down here-- our current government doesn't believe in science or education.. :(
 
Red Robin said:
Oldtimer said:
Wouldn't work down here-- our current government doesn't believe in science or education.. :(
Obama gonna save us all. You'll be so happy then oldtimer. It'll be lovely. You only have 8 more sleepless months.

I didn't realize you were that sure he was going to win... :wink: :lol: :P But you probably are right...Wyoming just had the largest turnout of Democrats that they've ever had in history....Folks just want ANY change from what they got now :roll: :wink:
 
My vet and I were talking about the shortage, and I jokingly said we needed to preserve him at any cost. He replied that the food animal producer was the one needing to be preserved in this country. Made me stop and think. :???:
 
Here's a question.How many of you have a large vet bill? We have over 400 hd here with replacement's and bull's this winter and I've had the vet out once for a bloating bull.I have never seen one bloat so I called him out but now I've seen it done I won't need him next time for that.I asked him if he was busy he said anyone who calves this early is useally set up to handle most everything and they don't need him.We are very lucky to have access to 4 large animal vets 10 miles away.We do use him for bangs vaccination's and semen testing.But other than that it's very rare that we use him.

As far as the election goes it won't make any differance Hillary or Obama are both bad for this country and Mc Cain is'nt much better.And no matter what happen's they will only sit one term they will be just like Jimmy Carter.Does anyone see a cycle here better pay off your debt's if you can.Anyone with a variable interest rate had better get it locked into a fixed rate.Look's like the mid to late 70's and early eighties to me..Better hang on for a wild ride..My family lost everything back then and I see the same thing happening again.Pay down your debt even if it means getting rid of some extra cows,land or machinery.Don't blame the Government for your own problem's Broke farmer's don't pay much in taxes I know.
 
I'm fortunate that I live in an area that still has good large animal vets. 2 good vets practicing within 40 miles with 24/7 availability between one or the other if necessary.

I handle most routine calving difficulties myself or with neighbor's help. C-sections I head to town with but haven't had any major problems for several years. Knock on wood! Culling and bull selection are the best tools to eliminate or at least minimize problems.
 
Denny, the current price inflation of inputs due to high energy prices and the low value of the US $ looks to me like the financial hardships of the '80s will seem mild by comparison.

EVERYTHING costs too damn much! As a cow/calf guy, I am concerned about increasing input cost and declining feeder prices come fall. :shock: :???:
 
Oldtimer said:
Red Robin said:
Oldtimer said:
Wouldn't work down here-- our current government doesn't believe in science or education.. :(
Obama gonna save us all. You'll be so happy then oldtimer. It'll be lovely. You only have 8 more sleepless months.

I didn't realize you were that sure he was going to win... :wink: :lol: :P But you probably are right...Wyoming just had the largest turnout of Democrats that they've ever had in history....Folks just want ANY change from what they got now :roll: :wink:
What was the number OT 35 or 40? :D :D :D :D
 
Juan said:
Oldtimer said:
Red Robin said:
Obama gonna save us all. You'll be so happy then oldtimer. It'll be lovely. You only have 8 more sleepless months.

I didn't realize you were that sure he was going to win... :wink: :lol: :P But you probably are right...Wyoming just had the largest turnout of Democrats that they've ever had in history....Folks just want ANY change from what they got now :roll: :wink:
What was the number OT 35 or 40? :D :D :D :D

Thats what I was thinking too :lol: :lol: But they were showing them on the news- saying in the "thousands"... Must be a few Dems in Wyoming since they have a Democrat for a Governor- or else the good old boys party members didn't toe the line in a previous election :wink: :lol: :P
 
There has been a lot of talk about utilizing Veterinary Assistants like the medical doctors use Physician Assistants...I think that may be the answer to part of the problem...
Allowing these folks to get much less training- mostly hands on training- and then being allowed to work under a vet doing all the vaccinations, preg testing, bull testing, caesareans, etc. etc and be allowed to prescribe medications...Take a lot of workload off the Vets, who would then have more time to diagnose Fifi's upset tummy.. :roll: :wink: :lol:
 
Large animal practice, especially cattle can be very seasonal. We don't begrudge our local vet working on small animals. Fifi will pay his bills during the slack times, and that will help make sure there is a vet around for the cow herds next calving time. Vets up here make vaccine and drug sales a large part of their income too.

We do have a big vet bill, yet only saw the vet in our yard twice last year, once for preg checking, and once for a calving. What we try and do is buy all our vaccine and drugs at the local vet, and give him as much business as we can so we can help make sure we have a vet when we have an emergency. We consider it an investment.

The vets here all use techs as well, and they can make a big difference. They don't do surgery, but do X-rays, lab tests, assist in surgery, do post-op care, and vaccinations. Being a former tech, I would say they are indispensable. :wink: :wink: :D
 
We do our own doctorin' here. It's to far to the nearest vet from our ranch, but that's ok keeps the expenses low. We've been operating without vets for so long, we 've just learned to take care of our own on our own.
 
Baker City has 3 vet clinics. One is strictly small animal, the one we use mostly has 4 vets and they are always busy (large and small animal), the 3rd one has three vets (large and small). LaGrande has 3 clinics too I think.
 
Kato said:
Large animal practice, especially cattle can be very seasonal. We don't begrudge our local vet working on small animals. Fifi will pay his bills during the slack times, and that will help make sure there is a vet around for the cow herds next calving time. Vets up here make vaccine and drug sales a large part of their income too.

We do have a big vet bill, yet only saw the vet in our yard twice last year, once for preg checking, and once for a calving. What we try and do is buy all our vaccine and drugs at the local vet, and give him as much business as we can so we can help make sure we have a vet when we have an emergency. We consider it an investment.

The vets here all use techs as well, and they can make a big difference. They don't do surgery, but do X-rays, lab tests, assist in surgery, do post-op care, and vaccinations. Being a former tech, I would say they are indispensable. :wink: :wink: :D

:clap:

It's important to support them as much as you can by buying supplies, vaccines, etc.. They usually need to charge more than the online places but you may save a bunch of money in mileage in the long run.
 

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