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Angus Cattle Shower

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Well, today at school, we had a guest speaker. He was talking about alcohol and youth. At the end of his presentation, he said that he felt the youth should not be able to touch liquor until they are 19.

I disagree.

How is it, that I can be serving my country, but I am not old enough to have one drink while doing it? I, along with my family and closer family friends (all over the legal age, that it is ok as long as it isn't in excessive amounts or abused.


What is your stance on teens drinking?
 
we hit a spell where we buried a high school kid every other year during my jr. high / high school years.

so I am on the do not drink side. and yes I drank as a teen. had nights where I wondered how I got home, and days I wondered how I survived my dad after he found me hung over!!

ACS, best thing you can learn is to milk a beer.
keeps the peer pressure off, and keeps you safe.
 
Good call Jigs, ACS I wouldn't be in any big hurry either, actually I could count on one hand the amount of drinks I had in high school and most of those were after I graduated. I'd save your money until you can buy it yourself. It is just a lot safer and simpler that way.

have a good one

lazy ace
 
You will never be an alcoholic if you never take your first drink. It's worked for me. Of course, I have always been a square peg unwilling to try to fit into a round hole. This has never stopped me from bar-hopping. I have also discovered that a person drinking Pepsi cannot drink as much of that as beer drinkers can drink beer. :wink: :-) It's also kind of fun watching drunks in action but not being one of them. The next morning it is nice not having a hang-over, and it's a bit entertaining watching those who do. Dry heaves cannot be much fun.
 
My son was a Deputy Sheriff killed on duty by someone drinking. IF you ever do drink, DONT drive. THe person that hit my son was about 25 and is living a life of 'hell' now knowing what he did.
 
This is a tough one ACS. First of all, I agree with this professor's following statement.

"People become responsible by being properly taught, given responsibility, and then held accountable for their actions. We don't tell young people to "just say no" to driving, fail to teach them to drive, and then on their 18th birthday give them drivers licenses and turn them loose on the road. But this is the logic we follow for beverage alcohol because neo-prohibitionism underlies our alcohol policy".

With that said, I can tell you that when I was a young man, I was what I now refer to myself as "A Liquor Pig"! I spent many of my nights (and some days) partaking of a little "juice of the barley"! All of my spare time became centered around my 'good ole boys' group at the bar.

When I quit drinking, many years ago, I realized what I had been missing. Time with my family, my kids, my hobbies, etc. There wasn't enough time in the day to do all the things I wanted to do. It makes me sick to think of all the time I wasted in that bar! I still go to bars occasionally & have a coke but my life no longer centers around it.

I almost took another bad step & became a workaholic. I then replaced the bar time with other things I enjoyed like restoring classic cars. I could spend hours in my shop. So I guess, using common sense & doing all things in moderation was the key that I found.

There are no instant replays in this life. One minute you can be having what you think is the time of your life, & the next minute you can be standing at a graveside saying "I'm so sorry!" like a friend of mine did. I am not going to tell you not to drink, just that if you do drink, do it in moderation as you are responsible for all of your actions. Don't put yourself in the position where you have to tell someone you are so sorry like my friend did! It doesn't bring them back!
 
jigs said:
ACS, best thing you can learn is to milk a beer.
keeps the peer pressure off, and keeps you safe.
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I am highly experienced in that matter... You become so when the girl you are out with doesn't want you to drink and your friends do :D

My absolute favorite is pouring the cola in first, then put your thumb over the top of the liquor bottle. If you do it right, it seems as though you ARE pouring the alcohol in, where, in reality, you are not.

Soap, I'll bet you ANY money that I can out drink anyone, as long as I have my cola haha. For my buddie's 18thI brought another very good friend, Hillary, (we were kinda sorta off and on from march-July, now its starting up again but we were just good friends) and the neither of us wanted to drink because I went to the lake with her and her family the next day for a fishing trip, so, we got someone to pick us up in town, and we each bought a 24. Of Coca-Cola classic that is haha.


FYI, you CAN get a sugar hangover. :wink:
 
ACS....

First, read what Jody and tta wrote. Now, re-read their posts. I hope you learn something from them.

Jody and tta, I am so sorry for your losses. I can only imagine the pain. Please accept my condolences.

I second what many here have said. Like lazy ace I can count the number of drinks I had under the age of 19 on less than one hand. I probably could have had a drink with dinner with my folks, but didn't. I had no desire, for what ever reason. There were several deterents from me "socially drinking" in high school. One was I lived a long way from town, down a very narrow, windy mountain canyon. Another was our strict no drug policy at school/extra curricular activities. I went to some parties, and drove lots of folks home, but didn't drink.

And, Angus, please take what several said to heart, and don't drink and drive, and don't ride with someone who's been drinking. We have buried two friends in the past nine months from the "riding with" scenario, and have seen one of our closest friends have his life turned upside forever. :cry: :cry: :cry: Not only did he lose his best friends, but lost family, and a very successful professional career. I bet he'd change that day for anything and everything. And, as a county extension agent, I had two of my favorite and best 4-H kids die in a DUI accident. You know what??? They would have been of age in Canada.

In the USA, kids can go to war at 18 years of age, heck maybe even 17. But they can not legally drink until 21.

I have not been perfect ACS, and will admit to drinking underage, in college. But, I don't think I would do it today, knowing what I know now. This comes from someone who enjoys drinking a couple beers every now and then. But I am also 10+ years and several pretty bad hangovers wiser too.

Angus, if we haven't convinced you to stay away from booze until you're legal, think about this....your younger brother and sister look up to you for everything. You are their idol. Do you want them engaging in risky behavior because they are drinking underage....because it was ok for you to do it, so it's ok for them to do it?

Angus, you will have a lot of time to drink when you are of age. Enjoy your youth, but do it without booze.

Cheers....with Diet Dr. Pepper....

TTB :wink:

PS...drinking is a very expensive habit!
 
We're going to bury a 17 year old girl thursday because of alcohol. I didn't touch the stuff in high school and the peer pressure was hard to deal with. ACS, I've read some of your posts and you've been through alot. I think you can handle the pressure and wait.
 
peer pressure is tough. BUT the pressure of killing some one else due to stupidity of drinking is VERY tough.


two guys at a party, one sober, one loaded and wanting to fight anyone. the two guys the sober one showed up with are ready to leave, but he says " no, I better stay here and keep Darrin out of trouble"

well Darrin get in a fight, get smacked around a bit, and gets mad. heads for the car. Nate, hops in to calm him down. they left the road at a county inersection where the two roads are different in height. one good ramp!

cops estimate the speed at over 100 mph. the crash was heard by a guy a mile away, who was in his house asleep!

Nate died. and there was a suicide watch on Darrin for over two years.
he told a buddy of mine once that there are worse things than dieing.......if you kill a friend, you are really dead in side, but your punishment is to keep on living. it haunted his dreams for years.


this was about 22 years ago. I was a sophomore, ten days after the funeral, the parties began again, no one learned a lesson. to this day, a handful of guys who were close to Nate and Darrin say that Darrin will STILL not look them in the eye.

just a few beers, ACS....... BULLSH!T....it is your LIFE!
 
Angus,our area we've lost ALOT of young people,starting when I was in high School,30 years ago this year.EVERY one of them died from alcohol induced reasons.This shows you nothing has changed in all these years,try,try as hard as you can stay the heck away from it.I'm all for a age change,even to 20.
 
Interesting topic. The fact is, they can set the legal age anywhere they want, but teens will still be able to get their hands on alcohol. I am not one to tell you what to do and what not to do. You'll do what you feel is right. I drank lots as a teenager and into my twenties and early thirties, but quit for almost ten years after that. Started up again, but very seldom take a drink. If I do, it's one or two then I'm done. I don't miss doing stupid stuff and hearing about it the next day, I don't miss the dirty hangovers, and I have more money in my pocket. Drinking is expensive these days! I actually don't know how anybody can afford it, especially a teenager.
 
I don't drink,no need to,my life is pretty bad/strange without any help. Daughter#1 told me she took up drinking/drugs because I had a bottle of cooking sherry that I'd used for a receipe once,and it had sat there for 'bout 5 years. Guess any excuse is a good excuse. She is possiabily
dead,haven't heard from her sense her last jail time bout 5 years ago.
Look I think what I'm trying to say is use the good sense you seem to have in abundance.. What use is it to have a "good time" if you can't remember it?
 
Think of all the benefits of alchahol. It helps you make all kind of bad decisions, it helps keep your money spent up, and helps you feel like you've been drug thru a knothole backwards the day after. It controls you and your actions. It will lure you back in spite of your best intentions. After all, who needs help in these areas? I do not think that legislation is the answer as much as education. Booze has never made a man, but it has made a lot of fools. If you are fighting for me & mine, I would much prefer you have all your wits about you.
 
My opinion is if one is serving our country and enlisted they should have the right to drink. If they are old enough to risk their lives then drinking seems ok to me.

I hardly ever drink. Maybe twice a year. Am I a prude no. It's just I don't like how I feel the next day and I don't like feeling out of control. After saying that though I will say there is a fine line between a buzz and being drunk and I've witnessed some hilarious stuff buzzed that might not have been near as funny sober. :oops: Plus once in awhile it's just nice to be relaxed totally and that's what a good buzz does for me. :o
 
Well there are stories of drinking that are tragic and sad...Families torn apart from alcoholism,deaths from driving drunk,stupid decision made while Drunk...Also unwanted children being conceived in parking lots outside bar doors... Booze creates ,black eyes.sore knuckles,missing teeth and long hospital waits to get fixed up...

That being said,If you are smart about it and plan ahead, booze can be allot of fun....Weddings are not nearly as fun sober...Your team won the cup,raise a few beers....If your are a tad shy,try six or so shots of Jack D,but be careful that stuff can make you think your bigger and stronger than you are....lose lips sink ships so watch yourself,secrets seem to get told during festive nights of drinking...I am sure many here have stories they still tell that happen to be created by to much liquor and they made it through them....

As I said just plan ahead,a ride,or cash for a cab ,or a friend not drinking as a designator driver...I like eggs cooked in hot sauce with hash-browns help cure my morning hangover....I rarely drink now as I too hate the morning after,but I had my day and I no longer have the stomach for such nites...

As far as the age thing goes......I think liquor is not good in a young persons hands......19 is a fair mark and I see no reason to change things....
 
ACS, it grieves me for you to ask this kind of question. If nothing any of the other good folks here gets through to you, please listen (and I mean really listen) to Brad Paisley's song Alcohol.........then you can decide for yourself what you should and shouldn't do........

I've never seen alcohol (beer included) cause anything good........never.

((((((((((((((((((((((((((((ACS))))))))))))))))))))))))) Hang in there, bigger little buddy!!!!!!!! :wink:
 
Bottom line....PUKING ain't sexy!!! :lol: :lol:

You get shite-faced...you're gonna puke....sometimes you don't have the option of where!!!!! :!: :!: :!:
 

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