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What to avoid in a one ton truck

Soapweed said:
gcreekrch said:
Per, by the looks of it you'll just have to buy the truck of your choice.

It seems there just aren't any good trucks made at all! :D

It's because the question was worded wrong. :wink: :-)

"What to avoid in a one ton truck"
It seems I should avoid a one ton truck period. :roll:
 
"What to avoid in a one ton truck"[/quote]
It seems I should avoid a one ton truck period. :roll:[/quote]

I have an S-10 that does it's job great - - - my son has an F 250 that does it's job great and an F 350 4X4 flat bed that works great for the job it was purchased for - - - it only has 4 tires and has a crew cab with a 10' flat bed.

I have a Chevy 3500 HD that does it's job great but I would like to go to single rear tires. This is really a 1 1/2 ton I think as it has much bigger springs and an I beam front axle. More power and more brakes and better transmission than the C 30 it replaced but I put almost 200,000 miles on the C 30 and thought it was fine.

I also have 2 L8000 ford single axle dump trucks and an L 9000 Tri Axle dump.

That does not count the 3 semi's - - - no one truck seems to fill all my needs but I can see where a good 1 ton could really help out if the need was there.

My cousin is a real estate agent and drives a 1 ton to get the tax right off that is not available on lighter trucks - - - it has probably never hauled over 500# in it's life but he makes a statement coming down the road!

If you have a need for a ton truck then there are many good ones out there - - - many people I know should have a ton but are using a smaller truck.

You need to determine what your needs are and get the truck that will meet them safely and do not work it into the ground!
 
Ha George, good advise. I have a similar line up to you from a car to a semi. What I need is a one ton, preferably single wheel and definitely 4WD. I have a chev with an 8.1 and a Dodge with a Cummins. The Dodge is on it's last legs and needs replaced with something else that will also go 500,000 km without breaking the repair bank. I just want to avoid the known lemons out there.
 
I have a 2012 F-350 with just 4 wheels and 4x4. It is a 6.2 gas and seems to have plenty of power. Doubt I work it as hard as many of you do but it pulls a 28' triple axle hay trailer real well and the 20' stock trailer with 10 cows in it is hardly noticed. I had an 07 Chevy 3500 before with a 6.0 gas engine and while I really liked the truck better it didn't pull nearly as well as the Ford does. For my work I have never been able to see how I could make a diesel pay out. While they get a little better fuel mileage they cost $10,000 more to buy and fuel is close to a dollar higher than gas. I've never had any luck finding a used 3/4 or 1 ton truck around here. Used ones were either owned by ranchers or oil field folks and they never trade off one that is worth a hoot.
 
I swapped a 350 chevy for a 7.3 ford on my feed truck and I am saving $60-75 a week in fuel even with current prices.
 
4Diamond said:
I swapped a 350 chevy for a 7.3 ford on my feed truck and I am saving $60-75 a week in fuel even with current prices.

I had a Superchip in my 7.3 and ran it on economy mode. Fuel savings were about 25%, and I think it gained about 50hp. Made it much more driveable and paid for itself in short order.
 
I believe my truck is programmed with a SCT but I can't prove it. Bought the truck used and previous owner "thought" it had been programmed.
 
Red Barn Angus said:
I have a 2012 F-350 with just 4 wheels and 4x4. It is a 6.2 gas and seems to have plenty of power. Doubt I work it as hard as many of you do but it pulls a 28' triple axle hay trailer real well and the 20' stock trailer with 10 cows in it is hardly noticed. I had an 07 Chevy 3500 before with a 6.0 gas engine and while I really liked the truck better it didn't pull nearly as well as the Ford does. For my work I have never been able to see how I could make a diesel pay out. While they get a little better fuel mileage they cost $10,000 more to buy and fuel is close to a dollar higher than gas. I've never had any luck finding a used 3/4 or 1 ton truck around here. Used ones were either owned by ranchers or oil field folks and they never trade off one that is worth a hoot.

My dad had a similar arguement with me. he bought Gas and I bought Deisel. One day I asked, "How many of those Gas rigs have you had since I bought this Diesel?"... He thought and said, "Three".

That is where the Diesel really pays. You need to be the kind of guy who will run them till they are done. He bought 1-2 more gas rigs after this before I was done. BTW, that Diesel I bought used with about 64,000 miles on it for $24,000. I went to an 03 with 52,000 miles on it for the same price. both have given me 500,000 miles.

So, part of the Deisel is how long you'll run a rig. The second is how many mikes you go a year.

Other things i look at is running a Secondary Oil filter as well as a secondary fuel filter. The oil filter allows me 15,000 miles between filter changes and 30,000 miles on oil changes with regular Delo oil. The fuel filter let me go 500,000 miles on the original injectors on an 03 Dodge Cummins I bought used.
 
PPRM said:
Red Barn Angus said:
I have a 2012 F-350 with just 4 wheels and 4x4. It is a 6.2 gas and seems to have plenty of power. Doubt I work it as hard as many of you do but it pulls a 28' triple axle hay trailer real well and the 20' stock trailer with 10 cows in it is hardly noticed. I had an 07 Chevy 3500 before with a 6.0 gas engine and while I really liked the truck better it didn't pull nearly as well as the Ford does. For my work I have never been able to see how I could make a diesel pay out. While they get a little better fuel mileage they cost $10,000 more to buy and fuel is close to a dollar higher than gas. I've never had any luck finding a used 3/4 or 1 ton truck around here. Used ones were either owned by ranchers or oil field folks and they never trade off one that is worth a hoot.

My dad had a similar arguement with me. he bought Gas and I bought Deisel. One day I asked, "How many of those Gas rigs have you had since I bought this Diesel?"... He thought and said, "Three".

That is where the Diesel really pays. You need to be the kind of guy who will run them till they are done. He bought 1-2 more gas rigs after this before I was done. BTW, that Diesel I bought used with about 64,000 miles on it for $24,000. I went to an 03 with 52,000 miles on it for the same price. both have given me 500,000 miles.

So, part of the Deisel is how long you'll run a rig. The second is how many mikes you go a year.

Other things i look at is running a Secondary Oil filter as well as a secondary fuel filter. The oil filter allows me 15,000 miles between filter changes and 30,000 miles on oil changes with regular Delo oil. The fuel filter let me go 500,000 miles on the original injectors on an 03 Dodge Cummins I bought used.

Hey, PPRM, talk about the Delo oil. We always used Rotella, then we were at a truck wash in Rapid City and the owner/manager there said Rotella changed their formula and it wasn't as good any more, and he recommended Delo, so that is what we use. But Mr. FH isn't convinced, so
when I read your post I thought you might elaborate on it, if I asked.
You said regular Delo, I need to check and see if what we use is regular or synthetic. Thanks for your reply.
 
Faster horses said:
PPRM said:
Red Barn Angus said:
I have a 2012 F-350 with just 4 wheels and 4x4. It is a 6.2 gas and seems to have plenty of power. Doubt I work it as hard as many of you do but it pulls a 28' triple axle hay trailer real well and the 20' stock trailer with 10 cows in it is hardly noticed. I had an 07 Chevy 3500 before with a 6.0 gas engine and while I really liked the truck better it didn't pull nearly as well as the Ford does. For my work I have never been able to see how I could make a diesel pay out. While they get a little better fuel mileage they cost $10,000 more to buy and fuel is close to a dollar higher than gas. I've never had any luck finding a used 3/4 or 1 ton truck around here. Used ones were either owned by ranchers or oil field folks and they never trade off one that is worth a hoot.

My dad had a similar arguement with me. he bought Gas and I bought Deisel. One day I asked, "How many of those Gas rigs have you had since I bought this Diesel?"... He thought and said, "Three".

That is where the Diesel really pays. You need to be the kind of guy who will run them till they are done. He bought 1-2 more gas rigs after this before I was done. BTW, that Diesel I bought used with about 64,000 miles on it for $24,000. I went to an 03 with 52,000 miles on it for the same price. both have given me 500,000 miles.

So, part of the Deisel is how long you'll run a rig. The second is how many mikes you go a year.

Other things i look at is running a Secondary Oil filter as well as a secondary fuel filter. The oil filter allows me 15,000 miles between filter changes and 30,000 miles on oil changes with regular Delo oil. The fuel filter let me go 500,000 miles on the original injectors on an 03 Dodge Cummins I bought used.

Hey, PPRM, talk about the Delo oil. We always used Rotella, then we were at a truck wash in Rapid City and the owner/manager there said Rotella changed their formula and it wasn't as good any more, and he recommended Delo, so that is what we use. But Mr. FH isn't convinced, so
when I read your post I thought you might elaborate on it, if I asked.
You said regular Delo, I need to check and see if what we use is regular or synthetic. Thanks for your reply.

When I said Delo, most specifically I am saying we get those results without using a Synthetic Oil. Two things break oil down. Miles (Heat) and time. I do enough miles that I can do this. If it took you 2 years to do those many miles, then no...I basically do two oil changes a year and we have the oil tested to confirm it is still good at those miles.
 

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