WHERE IS IT??????????

[S.S.A.P.]

Haymaker you sanctamonias bag of wind-how any r-calfer claim to have Canada's interests at heart. Your starting to remind of computers-you need some information punched in. Bottom line you lied-you are gonna lose-now be a man about it and shut up. I for one have about had it with your condescending b.s. towards some canadian lady ranchers who've forgot more about the cattle business than you'll ever know. You better find a cave to hide in because in the very near future you r-calfer's are gonna be as popular as Ku Klux Klan member at a NBA game.

Careful boy,no need to get rude,the fact of the matter is R CALF has done more for the Canadian rancher in the last few years than all of your other "ORGS" combined,you need to quit thinking with your wallet and face the facts............good luck

OK Haymaker name one thing that R-CALF has done for the Canadian producer?

Big Muddy Rancher, don't let him off so easy (name one thing) - he must have a few he can pull out of a dark spot ... referring of course to his latest post:

R CALF has done more for the Canadian rancher in the last few years than all of your other "ORGS" combined, ......... by Haymaker

I'd like at least four, as I am about to ask for the fourth time:::::::::::
Specifically, what has r-calf done on my (a Canadian producer) behalf Haymaker ??

 

[agman]

SH "Just what is the incidence of BSE in the U.S. herd? "

I should holler "Divertion" like you do, but I'm a white man :lol:

We don't KNOW what the incidence of BSE is in either herd - neither country tests enough to get to the bottom of this.

The statistical testing methodology can determine the prevalence of BSE in the herd if the correct test is being used. If the results are in error it is due to the failure to use the Western Blot Test. These are two differnt issues.

 

[agman]

Hayseed: "when are we gonna see diminished consumer demand?"

We have already seen declining consumer demand. Boxed beef prices are not what they were. Consumer spending on beef has declined due in part to a decrease in discretionary spending due in part to higher fuel prices.

This decline in beef demand is not because of anything R-CULT has said because the media doesn't see R-CULT as a credible source of information on BSE. If they did, they would repeat R-CULT's concerns about the safety of Canadian beef due to Canada having BSE in their domestic herd now that we have a domestic case of BSE in your backyard.

I thought R-CALF said BSE was a Canadian problem Hayseed?

You might want to have someone explain to you what I just wrote.

Hayseed: "I know that consumers believe R CALF is working hard to insure the safety of the cattle industry in the USA and Canada,this can only instill confidence in the consumer.."

Most consumers have never heard of R-CULT! How is R-CULT working hard to insure the safety of the cattle industry by claiming their beef poses a "high risk"? How will that instill confidence in the consumer? Explain how R-CULT claiming Canadian beef is a "high risk" instills consumer confidence in their product!

I'm not surprised that statement came from you!

~SH~

RCalf's impact on reducing consumer demand, if any, is indeterminate at this time. One thing is for certain though. They have said very contradictory statements concerning the safety of American beef. Those statements by themselves can prove ultimately to be very damaging.

I am very fearful for the beef industry once the trial begins as to how the press will report some of their statements and statements from their strange bedfellows. I believe those who aligned themselves with R-Calf, who are no friend to the beef industry, have given R-Calf enough rope to hang themselves and unfortunately the entire beef industry. You heard it here first; watch for the results.

 

[Anonymous]

NR: "You better find a cave to hide in because in the very near future you r-calfer's are gonna be as popular as Ku Klux Klan member at a NBA game."

ROTFLMAO!

.....during the holidays singing, "I'm dreaming of a "WHITE".......Christmas"!



~SH~

 

[S.S.A.P.]

.....during the holidays singing, "I'm dreaming of a "WHITE".......Christmas"!

~SH~

I was just about to ask Macon for some background music .... hate to see Haymaker dancing without it ......

 

[HAY MAKER]

Careful boy,no need to get rude,the fact of the matter is R CALF has done more for the Canadian rancher in the last few years than all of your other "ORGS" combined,you need to quit thinking with your wallet and face the facts............good luck

OK Haymaker name one thing that R-CALF has done for the Canadian producer?

Big Muddy Rancher, don't let him off so easy (name one thing) - he must have a few he can pull out of a dark spot ... referring of course to his latest post:

R CALF has done more for the Canadian rancher in the last few years than all of your other "ORGS" combined, ......... by Haymaker

I'd like at least four, as I am about to ask for the fourth time:::::::::::
Specifically, what has r-calf done on my (a Canadian producer) behalf Haymaker ??

R CALF ,has made the canadian cattle man aware of the serious BSE problem in canada.
R CALF has provided the canadian cattle man incentive to develope markets
R CALF has has repeatedly reminded the canadian cattle man his testing was inadequate
R CALF has given the canadian cattle man purpose to develope slaughter capacity
and all at no cost to the producer........................good luck ps although I personally think you should send them a check :wink:

 

[Tam]

Don't worry about Haymaker he is humming so loud to drowned out the truth everyone is telling him all of Texas can hear the music. :lol: :lol2: :clap: Your last post was priceless Haymaker :roll: When I have more time I will respond You take the cake Haymaker

 

[HAY MAKER]

Don't worry about Haymaker he is humming so loud to drowned out the truth everyone is telling him all of Texas can hear the music. :lol: :lol2: :clap:

You are right Miss Tam,IM happy the sun is gettin low,bout time for me to put on my best hat and head to the water hole.Maybe I will run into that canuckle head that elmo swears is hanging roun there.I figger it to be just a matter of time till I cut his trail...................good luck PS talk to yall tomorrow :wink:

 

[SASH]

I keep reading these fear mongers posting how R CALF is diminishing domestic consumer demand for beef,but I keep looking at my sale barn checks and realizing "THEY ARE FULL OF BOOL SHEIST"..............good luck PS when is this diminished demand gonna take place?

Well, I'm kinda of the mind that groups like PETA and R-CALF get ignored by most of society because they are on the fringe. The people that were going to be affected by R-CALF's message that beef is dangerous were probably vegetarians and the like or people who were on the edge of being vegetarians. Just a good thing that R-CALF and PETA have no credibility with the general public or otherwise cattle producers could be in trouble.

 

[frenchie]

R CALF ,has made the canadian cattle man aware of the serious BSE problem in canada.

Has R-calf made the american people aware of the gaping holes in B.S.e testing in the U.S , Have they made the americans aware of their B.S.E problem within the u.s cow herd.

R CALF has provided the canadian cattle man incentive to develope markets

And has also prevent acess to tradional markets.

R CALF has has repeatedly reminded the canadian cattle man his testing was inadequate

R- calf has apparently forgotten that their testing program does not work,
or that the U.S has no National I.d program in place

R CALF has given the canadian cattle man purpose to develope slaughter capacity
and all at no cost to the producer.

.


at no cost What a laugh......................

 

[Northern Rancher]

R-Calf is about as helpful to Canadians as Hitler was to the Jews in Europe- What a pathetic pile of crap.

 

[frenchie]

R-Calf is about as helpful to Canadians as Hitler was to the Jews in Europe- What a pathetic pile of crap.

Hay Maker see this Northern Ranchers sticking up for you guys again :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

 

[cowsense]

Haymaker.....the only value r-cult will provide to the Canadian industry is the court settlement that they will owe Fair Market Beef!!! I'm sure as a loyal member you'll contribute your share!! Perhaps we could turn the Haymaker ranchero into a winter retreat for the Canadian members of ranchers.net :!: :wink:

 

[Tam]

Haymaker.....the only value r-cult will provide to the Canadian industry is the court settlement that they will owe Fair Market Beef!!! I'm sure as a loyal member you'll contribute your share!! Perhaps we could turn the Haymaker ranchero into a winter retreat for the Canadian members of ranchers.net :!: :wink:

Only if his fat butt isn't taking up space on the front porch sipping all the Canadian whiskey we bring with us. That could get very expensive :lol2:

 

[HAY MAKER]

Haymaker.....the only value r-cult will provide to the Canadian industry is the court settlement that they will owe Fair Market Beef!!! I'm sure as a loyal member you'll contribute your share!! Perhaps we could turn the Haymaker ranchero into a winter retreat for the Canadian members of ranchers.net :!: :wink:

Only if his fat butt isn't taking up space on the front porch sipping all the Canadian whiskey we bring with us. That could get very expensive :lol2:

I see you canuckl heads like to stay up late ,then sleep till noon,pick on an ole HAY MAKER while he is in town,well to bad I dont have your fat butts here on my place your fat butts would hit the floor bout daylite.....................good luck PS Yall better be careful that mean ole R CALF might get you today,like OT said have you trembleing and peeeeeeeeing

 

[Bill]

well to bad I dont have your fat butts here on my place your fat butts would hit the floor bout daylite.

You don't do that ritual of kneeling and bowing on the mat on the floor with that towel around your head do you Haymaker? :???:

 

[HAY MAKER]

Diminished Demand my skinny butt, August feeder cattle are stronger than the live cattle contracts and have climbed back above $110. The last cattle on feed report gave some support with fewer numbers on feed and fewer being placed than some of us expected. Remember that we are in the cycle of herd building and heifer holding with strong demand for the first time since the early 1970's. Short hedges or just being in the cash market appear to be okay as we move toward the first of August. .................good luck PS and yes this is cut copied and pasted,just tring to make a point,not trying to steal some ones thunder.

 

[S.S.A.P.]

.........Remember that we are in the cycle of herd building and heifer holding with strong demand for the first time since the early 1970's. Short hedges or just being in the cash market appear to be okay as we move toward the first of August. .................good luck PS and yes this is cut copied and pasted,just tring to make a point,not trying to steal some ones thunder.

Hey .... I've heard that r-calf and a sealed Canadian border are responsible for the strong prices. what gives ??

 

[S.S.A.P.]

Haymaker pm'd me with:
Subject: More questions?
Hope I answered your questions to satisfaction SSAP,and my apology for being blunt :heart: ............good luck


Haymakers answers to what has r-calf worked for on my (Canadian producer) behalf?

R CALF ,has made the canadian cattle man aware of the serious BSE problem in canada.
R CALF has provided the canadian cattle man incentive to develope markets
R CALF has has repeatedly reminded the canadian cattle man his testing was inadequate
R CALF has given the canadian cattle man purpose to develope slaughter capacity
and all at no cost to the producer........................good luck ps although I personally think you should send them a check


Haymaker, if you truely belief what you wrote above, there is nothing I or anyone can say to make you believe otherwise.

With your line of reasoning, I can conclude that if a group of people from another area, torched your place and your town because you were competition and "diseased" - that you would believe they were working on your behalf and give them credit while you rebuild the structures and businesses.

 

[greybeard]

When you look at Farm to Market Retail Price Spreads for Beef - USDA and compare the farm share of the retail between now and 99-2000 when there were lots of cattle available to the packers. Back then farm share was 48 to 49% of retail. Now that R-Calf is bending those poor packers over, they have to cough up a full 45% of the retail price to get the cattle.