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Wide pickups vs. gathering wheels

We cut our hay with bar mowers, rake it with a 16-wheel H&S rake, and bale with Vermeer balers. One baler is a Super J, and the other is an L model. Both have the gathering wheels, and it seems that no hay escapes to the side. We don't go terribly fast, as our meadows aren't terribly smooth, but eventually we get done. :wink:
 
HAY MAKER said:
Big Muddy rancher said:
HAY MAKER said:
WOW!!!! andy showing his brillance again,yeah New Holland spent a bundle on research engineering /design to add the wide pickup to slow down baleing,andy maybe you need to learn how to operate a baler? and understand less ground speed does'nt mean slower production.............good luck


Haymaker could you explain your reasoning about this. i always thought production was was the amount of pounds of hay baled per hour.
It you are going slower or not able to put as much hay into the bales that you wouldn't be productive,
Yes I will explain it,when you explain why you think "going slower" puts less hay into the bales :???: LOL................good luck

Haymaker driving slower will make a tighter heavier bale, but when I am baleing at 9 MPH at 1500 rpms and the bales wiegh 1900lbs I don't think I want to drive slower and get a heavier bale with less leaves in it.
 
I have alot of neighbors that bale at high speeds. I think its pretty demanding on everything in the hayfield, but they get alot done. My mean ol Dad would have a fit if I baled that fast. I suppose one of those new 20 series tractors with the computerized frontends and seats would help with the bumps, but we're too primative for them arround here.
 
As per the raking comment; partly to help dry, but as much to shape the windrow. A rake tractor doesn't use as much fuel as a baler, and it's sure nice to only make half as many rounds.
I"d have to second the lower RPM idea for baling alfalfa, the same reason for using net wrap. I've never seen an alfalfa bale tied with two handfuls of leaves on the ground until this year.
Haying is another necessary (we hope) ranch operation , which tends to vary from area to area; I'd think.
 
lazy ace said:
We have an extra wide pickup on the NH baler, it works all right but it seems to me like if you crowd the outside you can slug that auger. We have had zero problems this year but the haying machinery is still sitting in the machine shed :mad: .

I saw on TV that in Canada somebody had a v rake mounted on the front of there tractor and raked and baled at the same time. Would that work for pulling two windrows together, or does it work only for mowed hay?

Andy your tractor speed is impressive. We have gotten to that speed on some fields and man can you get stuff done. When you back your speed down to 5 or 6 it feels like you are barely moving. :)

Have a good one
The V rake mounted in front of the baler tractor would work until it got a little dry then I think leaf loss would get way to high. If I rake I like to do it in the morning when there is still a dew. Hate to rake the night before cause with my luck its usually raining the next day. I run my JD 566 at 830/ 1000 PTO and it makes good bales with minimal leaf loss.
lazy ace
 
Whoops The bottom part of that Quote Lazy Aces, should have been what I said. Guess I have been watching too many bales go round and round :roll:
 
Just seems so hectic lately seeding,reseeding building fence checking pastures(bit of pink eye) and now haying. Oh yea and a bit of trucking for a friend of mine. Time flys when yer havin fun :lol:
 

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