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Neil Waugh

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Anyone shot any of that new Hornaday ammo with the rubber tips? It's supposed to make your old saddle gun shoot like a sheep rifle. I'd be interested to know if it's true.
 
Neil Waugh said:
Anyone shot any of that new Hornaday ammo with the rubber tips? It's supposed to make your old saddle gun shoot like a sheep rifle. I'd be interested to know if it's true.
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Haven't shot them. But the added gain in Ballistic Coefficient and velocity sure can't hurt. Weight X Velocity = Momentum

A side by side test would be interesting, but I doubt it would shoot much different.

When I was a kid with a 30-30, I always shot those old Winchester Silvertips (flatnose, to keep the cartridge ahead of the one in the magazine from firing).
Had a few deer that got away, but were probably due to incorrect shot placement, and me being young and dumb.

The 30-30 is what it is. A handy gun that is adequate at relatively short ranges.

Wish I still had my old Model 94. I would try them.:cry:
 
I've got one and it's still my favorite if i want to kill something biggewr than a prarie dog. I'll have to get some of them bullets, but as bad as I am with shooting, I'd never probably know the difference. :lol:

If they are farther than 150 yards, they are pretty safe. But then I sneek real well! :shock: :o :lol:

I never really knew what true hunting was until I went bowhunting. After that, getting one with a rifle seems kind of tame, except for a big ol' smart buck or goat.
 
Northern Rancher said:
Jinglebob what kind of poiunty stick do you use-you'll have to head up here and try and poke a big old Black Bear.
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I'ts been so long since I shot it, I don't remember! :shock: :lol:

Too many other fun things to do, but I really ought to get back to it. But then there would be someone whining about me not getting their saddle built for them! :x

I always said that the next time, I want to make me a sinew backed bow and have one of my boys knap me out some flints, and do it right. One of these days.......

And I'll do it right too. Ahorseback. :wink: :lol:
 
Thanx for the info guys. As to Pure Country's response, you can pick up a used Model 94 at an Edmonton gunshop for around 300 bucks.
Must be tough living in that culvert down at Forestburg.
By the way, Pure I'm sure would like to remind everyone that the Battle River breaks are about the most drop dead gorgeous place on earth this time of year.
 
Neil Waugh said:
Anyone shot any of that new Hornaday ammo with the rubber tips? It's supposed to make your old saddle gun shoot like a sheep rifle. I'd be interested to know if it's true.
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8) Don't know the shell,but it's still a bush/saddle gun.Still a great one at close range.Carried one lots.But for open range all around huntin,I have to admit I have converted to a Browning BLR in .308.Kind of allaround for me and light?
 
Neil Waugh said:
Thanx for the info guys. As to Pure Country's response, you can pick up a used Model 94 at an Edmonton gunshop for around 300 bucks.
Must be tough living in that culvert down at Forestburg.
By the way, Pure I'm sure would like to remind everyone that the Battle River breaks are about the most drop dead gorgeous place on earth this time of year.
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Culvert at Forestburg????Okey-dokey. Not sure what that means.

As for the Battle, you're right, there aren't too many places prettier - year round. I was walkin' some of the hills this weekend, and it may sound funny, but these hills have always felt like home. Being in a house or under a roof feels weird after you spend some time in the backcountry. Not sure what city folks would think if they came along for a hike, and saw the springs bubble out of the hillsides where I just kneel down and drink the water from the ground. Or stopping to enjoy the thumping of a grouse, 'cause it's just music like they've never heard. Pretty sure I know what they'd do though when they came across cat-tracks, or heard coyotes howl. :lol:

Anyways, 2 good buddies came out yesterday to help me build a hunting tower. We built it out of 3-1/2" tubing, in a 6'X6' square, with the floor starting 20' off the ground. It's basically a shed on stilts. Boy, when you get 20' up in the air, it's amazing what you can see. I'm gonna be planted in that thing for the whole last week of November for sure. I'll try and get some pics of it to put up.
 
Neil Waugh said:
Thanx for the info guys. As to Pure Country's response, you can pick up a used Model 94 at an Edmonton gunshop for around 300 bucks.
Must be tough living in that culvert down at Forestburg.
By the way, Pure I'm sure would like to remind everyone that the Battle River breaks are about the most drop dead gorgeous place on earth this time of year.
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Ummm "culvert down at Forestburg?????"Your talking about our home,explain the culvert thing :???: And oh ya the Battle Rivers the nicest this time of year...check coffee shop I posted Pictures of our Battle River pasture in there...Pure's a nice guy, not a Forestburg boy though.
 
PureCountry said:
Thank ya ma'am.

How's that family doing? Gettin' a few things done in this last bit of warm weather we're having?
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Doing good...wasn't today beautiful? Gregs still hauling bales...should be done by the time the snow falls. :lol:
 
Before I forget, our Grazing Club is going to organize a Holistic Management course, taught by Don and Bev Campbell from Meadow Lake. It'll be sometime this winter, and when we get a date picked, I'll let you know if you're interested. We're also helping to put together a one-day workshop on year-round grazing. Battle River Research is going to do most of the work. If you're interested, give a holler.
 
PureCountry said:
Before I forget, our Grazing Club is going to organize a Holistic Management course, taught by Don and Bev Campbell from Meadow Lake. It'll be sometime this winter, and when we get a date picked, I'll let you know if you're interested. We're also helping to put together a one-day workshop on year-round grazing. Battle River Research is going to do most of the work. If you're interested, give a holler.
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They both sound good,really interested in the year round grazing one....let us know
 
Speaking of 30-30's i ran into a guy at the gun shop who had an OLD lever action, octogon loooong barreled rifle. It was so danged neat he said it used to be ten inches longer but he couldn't stand to pack it around so he cut it down. Judging by the length it is now it used to be real close to 6 feet in total length. Then the gunshop guy said it was worth about 1500 bucks down from 9000 before he cut the barrel down. my math says for 7500 i can get a real nice "lighter" gun to carry around. Its to bad that genius had control of that peice of history.
 
Beef11 said:
Speaking of 30-30's i ran into a guy at the gun shop who had an OLD lever action, octogon loooong barreled rifle. It was so danged neat he said it used to be ten inches longer but he couldn't stand to pack it around so he cut it down. Judging by the length it is now it used to be real close to 6 feet in total length. Then the gunshop guy said it was worth about 1500 bucks down from 9000 before he cut the barrel down. my math says for 7500 i can get a real nice "lighter" gun to carry around. Its to bad that genius had control of that peice of history.
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That's a shame that someone cut it off. I really like those old guns.

Did you know that the only reason for those extra long barrel lengths was that they only had black powder back then and the barrels had to be long enough to burn all the powder before the bullet exited the barrel? Same for shotguns.

The new modern "Smokeless Powders" are controlled burning and can be bought in many "Burn Speeds".

Danged shame........ :cry:
 
A picture of an ole pre 64 30-30,that elmo give me years ago,only had a 1/2 box of shells shot thru it and I did that,elmo aint much of a hunter when it comes to 4 legged critters,2 legged is more to his liking...........good luck
 
Here are a couple of shots of my 30-30. Not a pre-64 unfortunately but still a working gun as you can see.
Just a little guy by Alberta standards, as Pure Country will testify, but at 30 below you take what the big guy gives you.


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