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Two Wolves Shot in Northwest Montana; Reward Offered
U.S. Fish and Wildlife officials are looking for information about two wolves found dead in the Flathead National Forest.


By New West Staff, 11-16-10






From the U.S. Fish and Wildlife service:

On Nov. 6, 2010, two wild gray wolves were found dead in separate locations on the Flathead National Forest in northwestern Montana. One wolf was found dead along Coal Creek Road, while the body of the other dead wolf was recovered in the Miller Creek area. Both animals appeared to have died as a result of gunshot wounds.

Killing a wolf is a violation of the Endangered Species Act.

The U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service, the agency responsible for enforcing the Endangered Species Act, is investigating the wolves' deaths. There is a reward of up to $2,500 is for information leading to the identification and prosecution of the person or persons involved in the killing of these wolves. If you have information regarding this case, please contact the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service in Great Falls, Montana at 406-761-2286.





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Comments
By SJ Wandertale, 11-17-10

Until the US Government can manage wolves without detriment to other facets of the ecosystem or local economies, we will continue to see more poaching incidents like this. And can you blame the poacher?
By Jon Cheever, 11-17-10

Wandertale-

Yes, you can blame the poacher.

Anyone who knowingly breaks the law and kills a wolf in Montana without a license is a despicable, cowardly human being. He should be locked up for his actions.

All this cowardly poacher did by murdering these wolves is further polarize the situation, making it even more difficult to resolve the wolf management issue.

Idiots like this shouldn't be allowed to hunt anything in Montana ever again.

-Jon Cheever
By Ken, 11-17-10

So, Wandertale, the US Government should play God? Bloody hell. There goe our taxes, right through the roof.
By Jerry, 11-17-10

The "only a small percentage of hunters " hold themselves above the law, illegally kill game, destroy private property, trash our forests with garbage, ride their ATV's in non-motorized areas "line" is getting old. It's beginning to look like there are a lot more miscreants amongst "hunters" than anyone wants to admit.
Let's see RMEF, Montana Wildlife Federation, National Wildlife Federation and other hunting groups step forward with some reward money to help apprehend these criminals.
By jay, 11-17-10

I suspect this is simply the first couple of shots to be fired by the rednecks inhabiting the new Ft. Sumter. Where more fitting than northwestern Montana, Northern Idaho, or Northern Nevada...?
By Dirtclod, 11-17-10

Jeeze - get a life, two dead varmits is what someone found. Big deal! They should be treated like coyotes...

There needs to be more people like him...just shoot & walk a way!
By JEFF E, 11-17-10

keep on shootin like this. nothing will help the (correct)pro-wolf side more. dumb-asses
By upthecrik, 11-17-10

Who's afraid of the big bad wolf? Sheep...in man's clothing.
By Dave Skinner, 11-17-10

I heard through my top secret local grapevine that the gentleman that reported one of the wolves shot was basically thrown in the frying pan, Mirandized, his barrel cast, the whole works.
Do the right thing, become an instant suspect?
He's not in the slam, but he basically told the wildlife enforcers how charmed he was with the entire episode, and how cooperative he plans to be in the future.
Here comes the iceberg.
By fomer spud, 11-17-10

The ultimate predator kills a lesser predator. Isn't that how nature works?
By william huard, 11-17-10

Dirtclod= Your post shows the inner workings of a fool. Since when do hillbillies like you get to make judgement calls as to what wildlife has value and what doesn't? you can't even spell varmint correctly! Everyone knows the average coyote or wolf is far more intelligent than the average hunter or hillbilly. And i'll bet they can spell better
By Corvus Strang, 11-17-10

William,

It seems unlikely, despite his poor spelling - and frankly, it could very well be poor typing - that coyotes and wolves can spell better than Dirtclod.

That being said, poaching wolves is dumb. It serves no point. There are times that citizens should certainly step up and perform acts of civil disobedience. This ain't one of 'em. Whether you believe in hunting wolves or not (I do), whether you believe wolves have a place in our world (I also do), the cracker(s) who poached the wolves isn't/aren't going to help us resole the situation.

As for Skinner's grapevine, sadly, I bet that's true. Frigging ridiculous. Reporting poaching, while not an indication of innocence, should most certainly not be an indication of guilt.

But, yes, iceburg is-a-comin'.

cs
By Corvus Strang, 11-17-10

Also, I don't think it's accurate to group hillbillies and hunters together de facto as you have done.

I mean, not all hunters are hillbillies, and not all hillbillies are hunters. So, like, you know, what's yer point?

It's radical notions like yours - all hunters are poorly educated, socially marginal people - that makes the anti-hunting crowd look like, well, a bunch of out-of-touch cranks, or worse, a lunatic fringe. In fact, many of us who hunt, are pretty darn well educated and thoughtful.

Or maybe you didn't mean to imply through your confounding word choice that hunters and hillbillies are one in the same.

cs
By william huard, 11-17-10

Corvus- My comments are usually made out of frustration when I read such ignorant posts. From posts proclaiming how ultimate humans are at being predators with all their high tech weaponry to posts about supporting poaching efforts or SSS these losers better hope that GOD has a sense of humor. Wouldn't it be something if a pack of wolves had the chance at payback with an unarmed hunter in the next life! I would love to see that!
By bigsky, 11-17-10

Sorry, John Cheever, Corvus and the boys. Spelling aside, the people who live in those areas have spoken. This sort of behavior was brought on by people like yourselves. The wolves would be fine if some control measures were in place. Unfornately, the loss of ungulates that many people use for food due to unregulated wolf numbers has many (and not some) thinking along these lines. Many of these folks have lost faith in our wildlife services due to your actions. It is unfortunate that it has come to this, but it is the way it is now. One dead wolf along the side of a road....how many in the bush? People will not sit idly by and watch the moose and elk disappear.....FACT, in 1995, 1200 moose inhabitated the yellowstone ecosystem. In 2010, 114 were counted. Will moose become extinct in yellowstone? It does indeed appear that way. Habitat loss casued that? More snow in the wind. WOLVES.
By Ronnie, 11-17-10

spud,The ultimate predator=gutless coward with a gun.

bigsky, the elk are not going to disappear. You are very uneducated if you think 600 wolves are going to wipe out 150,000 elk. More anti wolf hysteria.
By Corvus Strang, 11-17-10

Whoa, there, bigsky. "This sort of behavior was brought on by people like yourselves." That's quite a statement. First, let's set the record straight, I hunt. There's a freezer full of elk and deer that will feed me and mine throughout the next 11 months. I support hunting wolves, under the same system that I support and engage in hunting of deer and elk; though I personally have no desire to hunt wolves.

But, more importantly, regarding your statement: You seem to be indicating that this poacher acted because of something I have done. That's outlandish and bespeaks one of the major problems wrong in America - namely causal understanding of people's actions. This poacher acted because they made a personal decision to break the law. I did not cause this behavior. This illegal behavior was a choice a person made.

People need to be held accountable for their actions - both legal and illegal.

Do not blame me for their behavior. Do not blame me for theirs or your situation in life, or anything you have or do not have. I do not expect recognition for your successes in life, and I do not expect blame for your failures. I believe in personal responsibility. And since I happen to believe in the rule of law, and other things that make America a better place to live than any other country, I believe that breaking the law is wrong and punishable as such. Despite the tide of cynicism and narcissism that plagues our country, I believe it is still the best country on Earth.

Poaching is poaching. Illegal.

cs
By big sky, 11-18-10

Nice Corvis, I can see the I love the wolves tune is playing again. Fine with me. I just stated the facts, and you are part of the problem, hunter or not. Your argument "right from wrong" has no merit. Poeple will do what they have to do, whether you like it or not. Good luck with your hunting, as I will with mine. Ronnie, you have no clue, you obviously don't live here to see what is happening. You can post all the so called "facts" about wolves until the cows come home. The truth is out there, plain to see. But you have to see the destruction to believe it.
By Ronnie, 11-18-10

bigsky, I have no clue? let me see if I can get this right. Wolves are killing elk and deer and moose and hunters are flaming mad because of it? What's the matter you coward, don't like competition and more efficient hunters than you eating elk and deer? Wolves are doing what they are supposed to do. You clearly can't see that. YOU are the clueless one. As for wolves eating livestock, too bad. That is a part of being a rancher. If ranchers don't like their cattle being killed, fine another line of work. it is not destruction. That is what you are too blind to see. It's only destruction according to a hunter's point of view simply because wolves are eating elk and deer. This is perfectly normal and acceptable to the majority of americans. Wolves eating elk and deer and moose. You hunters expose yourself as people wh hate predators because of how efficient they are and because of their competition. You sir are infact the one that has no clue.
By Baaa, 11-18-10

Love the headline.

Shoot wolves, get reward.
By upthecrik, 11-18-10

Here are some simple stats supplied by the U.S. census bureau and the Dept. of FWP. The are currently approximately 310.7 million people in the U.S. Of those, 10.7 million are on record as having hunted big game (deer & elk). This equates to 3.4% of the population. WHO DO YOU PEOPLE THINK YOU ARE? If you think your opinion really matters to the OVERWHELMING majority of Americans, you're wrong. Most Americans don't even have a clue what SSS means, and wouldn't care at all if somebody SSS'd all you wolf killing fanatics.
I find it curious that this tiny minority of Americans are always so willing to voice their "patriotism" to America, yet, are unable to abide by the laws that our democratic institutions lay down for THE PEOPLE....not 3.4% of the people.
Keep shooting wolves illegally, hunters. You will soon see your tiny "tip of the iceberg" dragged down by a majority of 300 million that have no interest about your "rights".
By Dirtclod, 11-18-10

There are obviously are some polarized viewpoints weighing in on this issue. There will never seem to be a resolution between the two groups until there is some give & take. After all that is the very definition of compromise. I think that the outdoorsman of our great state have sacrificed enough. Although the Willows & Aspens may look great the people that enjoy hunting in this state are pissed off! For those with their heads screwed on straight (you don't need a masters in wildlife biology) there has been a drastic change in the ecosystem.

Now some people are sick & tired of waiting for the government, attorneys, and various groups to come up with the solution. Nothing is going to get better, meanwhile these things are out there breeding & multiplying. I don't blame the guy who shot them…it's about time someone starts standing up for what needs to be done. I don't consider him a poacher, just a good shot!

You think shooting a couple is the end of the world…there are plenty of more ways to get rid of wolves, poison meatballs..antifreeze….so you don't need a gun to take care of the problem (that's the real stealthy way to take care of them, although there might be some collateral damage). They have been doing it in Canada & Alaska for years. It's too bad our representatives are too dumb to realize what wolves do to the ecosystem.

The beauty of it is that, there are no "wolf lovers" that are out in the woods. They are behind in their computer on the East Coast. So all the "wolf lovers" can do is piss & moan about their poor little creatures.


How did I do on my spelling this time, I would sure hate to have a furry creature that can spell better than me:)

Dirtclod OUT! Chew on that!
By william huard, 11-18-10

Ronnie- people like Big Sky will not change their opinion. You'd get about as far with the oak tree in your yard. Hunters have this sense of entitlement to wildlife that I find facinating. Humans are by far the most vicious species on the planet, and are quick to point out how vicious wolves are, how they decimate game herds, and "need to be managed". Fish and Game depts and Wildlife Services have very little science to justify the hunting of this species. They have no clue that the dynamics of the pack are critical to the way they hunt, and when you arbitrarily take members of a pack, in many instances you increase the level of livestock loss that occurs. Wolves are wired to kill their prey, and the Don Peay's of the world don't like the competition as you said.
By Dirtclod, 11-18-10

Ronnie – go recycle your sandals someplace else, I think MT is overpopulated with people like yourself. You don't have any idea of what a Montanan is. It is someone who works hard, & likes to enjoy the land that we live on (not just look at it). Go back to wherever you came from before we open a season on your type!

Haha!
By Montana, 11-18-10

Blah, Blah, Blah!! Shoot 'em ALL!!
By upthecrik, 11-18-10

Hey Dirtclod...please explain what wolves "do" to the ecosystem. People without your razor sharp intellect are dying to know (including the stupid representatives).
Oh, great oracle of the masses...please share your wisdom.
By upthecrik, 11-18-10

If hunters don't want to be associated with "radical fringe elements", then get control of your "radical fringe elements". Personally, I think everyone who purchases a gun with the intent of doing anything other than putting food on the table automatically qualifies as a "radical fringe element" of society, bordering on psychopathy.
By Dirtclod, 11-18-10

Upthecrik – wolves of course make the ecosystem stronger, & are a vital role in the food chain. They are one of God's blessings to our great state. They are truly a blessing….gosh they are soooo cute.

I know that is the only thought your pea-brain understands.

Who cares what the heck the majority of Americans want to see happen. We are the ones in the woods, now it's about time for a little vigilante justice!

Not a dog-gone thing you can do about it either! Haha, you are powerless. Make all the laws you want, spend all the money you want. People are sick of these damn things!

Montana - summed it up perfectly!
By william huard, 11-18-10

Dirtclod- Forget to take your anti-psychotics again this morning? We are trying to isolate your defective gene pool!
 
The guy who shot these wolves should get a reward and not the flack he would have got had he been caught .After reading the comments in the original post i got sense of the ignorance that exists and of the TOTAL disconnect between the rural and urban population that exists in the general urban population.what will there reaction be when the wolves start grabbing fido or fluffy out of their back yards, or worse yet when little johny or sally are attacked on the way to school.the general public needs to wake up and realize these wolves are natures killing machines born and bred for the sole purpose of.
 
miocene said:
The guy who shot these wolves should get a reward and not the flack he would have got had he been caught .After reading the comments in the original post i got sense of the ignorance that exists and of the TOTAL disconnect between the rural and urban population that exists in the general urban population.what will there reaction be when the wolves start grabbing fido or fluffy out of their back yards, or worse yet when little johny or sally are attacked on the way to school.the general public needs to wake up and realize these wolves are natures killing machines born and bred for the sole purpose of.

Did you read the "Letter to the Editor" in the Western Producer by Sadie Parr from Golden BC?
 
We lost 2 cows to wolves this summer/fall.My daughter's boyfriend and Dad lost 2 cow's and 2 600# calves.We had a female out on a hayfield one evening. I could get close enough to tell the sex.They are'nt very scared of people nothing like coyote's.
 
Denny said:
We lost 2 cows to wolves this summer/fall.My daughter's boyfriend and Dad lost 2 cow's and 2 600# calves.We had a female out on a hayfield one evening. I could get close enough to tell the sex.They are'nt very scared of people nothing like coyote's.


If you got that close you should have been close enough for something else. :D
 
big muddy -i read ms parr's letter once i was not impressed.the second time i read it i thought she should try these ideas with her own livestock,i guarantee she won't be in the livestock bussiness very long.after the way that the wolves have worked ranchers in my area over in the last couple of years i'm short 3 calves that did not come home from range this year, i strongly believe in the only good one is a ****one.they are a fearless animal, just look at how they've worked over gcreek.
 
miocene said:
big muddy -i read ms parr's letter once i was not impressed.the second time i read it i thought she should try these ideas with her own livestock,i guarantee she won't be in the livestock bussiness very long.after the way that the wolves have worked ranchers in my area over in the last couple of years i'm short 3 calves that did not come home from range this year, i strongly believe in the only good one is a ****one.they are a fearless animal, just look at how they've worked over gcreek.

There is a response to her letter in the paper this week. It basically says exactly what you said. :)
 
I Luv Herfrds said:
No surprise after what happened to those 2 hunters getting chased by wolves out of the area where they had gotten an elk.

HOPE THIS COPIES FOR YOU ALL TO READ...


Subject: FW:

Subject: South Fork of the Flathead River of Montana

Wolf Attack! "Without our Horses and Guns We Would Be Dead" | Print | E-mail

Written by Dr. Edwin Berry
Saturday, 06 November 2010 18:00
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Mark Appleby and Raymond Pitman went hunting in their usual spot in the drainage of the South Fork of the Flathead River of Montana on Friday, October 29, 2010. They shot an elk and returned on Saturday to retrieve the meat. They did not notice anything unusual until their horses became panicked. Turning around to see what was frightening the horses, they found they were surrounded by wolves, which had begun closing in.

Randy drew his pistol and fired one shot in the air while Mark ran for his rifle. Randy's next shot killed a wolf. Then it became a standoff. Mark and Randy left the elk quarters at the site and walked their panicked horses the 90-minute hike back to the road.

They returned on Monday with a Montana Fish, Wildlife and Parks (FWP) warden. The warden confirmed one wolf kill, multiple wolf tracks and that the elk meat was eaten by wolves and a grizzly bear.

Mark said had it not been for Randy wearing his pistol, the wolves would have killed both of them. Though self defense is legal, the problem is the federal government still classifies wolves as an endangered species. So the hunters may have to justify in a federal court their actions to save their own lives. The FWP has turned the information over to the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service (FWS).

Mark and Raymond reported that the game has almost disappeared in the last two years because of the increasing wolf population. They also emphasized that without their hunting experience, they would not have been able to defend themselves against the wolves. Mark maintained: "Raymond's pistol saved our lives. It was very ugly."

I asked Mark and Raymond for their advice to the general public going hiking in the forests. They stressed that they would not go into the forest unarmed. They indicated that the general public would have a difficult time deciding when they could claim self defense to justify killing a wolf. Wolves are quick and deadly. Shoot too soon and you pay the federal penalty. Shoot too late and someone else will tell your story.

Edwin X. Berry, Ph.D., who resides in Montana near Glacier National Park, is an atmospheric physicist and a Certified Consulting Meteorologist (#180) of the American Meteorological Society. He is a member of the American Physical Society and the American Geophysical Union and has published over 42 professional scientific papers. Dr. Berry manages, edits, and writes for, ClimatePhysics.com, a premier scientific website exposing the fallacies and propaganda of Anthropogenic (man-made) Global Warming, or AGW. Dr. Berry also manages, edits, and writes for, WolfClash.com, where this article originally appeared on November 5, 2010. It is being published by TheNewAmerican.com by special arrangement with Dr. Berry . Dr. Berry 's WolfClash.com article also provides the following statements by the two hunters who were attacked by the wolves:

Statement of Mark E. Appleby On Wolf Attack of October 30, 2010 to Region One Montana Fish Wildlife And Parks Officer:

Myself and Mario Benedict went hunting on Friday the 29th of Oct. up Deep Creek Rd. on the east side of Hungry Horse Reservoir. I shot a 6-point bull elk approximately two hours from the truck. I gutted and quartered the elk as Mario [dragged it] up to the road. We then walked back to the truck. As Mario had to work the following day, I got Raymond Pittman to help me get the meat the following morning with my horses.

When we got to the spot in the road where we left the quarters, backstrap tenderloin etc. the day before, we checked to make sure there were no bears, cats, wolves etc. in the area. There were no tracks of anything except a coyote track. We felt safe at that time to relax and eat lunch. Raymond had brought MREs to cook on his little stove.

After about an hour we cut off the legs on the quarters, then re-cinched the saddles on the horses and put the pack panyards on the horses. At that time we took the horses over and tied them up to trees next to the quarters. I then started to pack up a front shoulder and my horse started to get excited, then the other horse did the same.These horses are very used to [the smell of raw] meat, so I didn't know what was going on. I then went to my horse, "Shotgun," and grabbed him by the halter to calm him down. At that point he started blowing and he got worse. He was looking over my head behind me, and at that point I knew something was wrong behind me.

I turned and looked and saw six, seven, or eight wolves and started to run for my rifle that was leaning on a rock on the other side of the road in the direction of the wolves. I was about halfway there and I heard Raymond shoot with his .44 Magnum. When I reached my gun, I picked it up and the wolves had stopped. I pointed my gun at them at about the same time they started to run at us again. At that time I feared for my life and my horses, and my friend [and] started to shoot.

I shot three times at the wolves and they finally fled into the timber. I ran over to the horse named "Starburst." He had wound himself around the tree so tight that his head was [stuck] tight against the tree. I unhooked the rope clasp from the halter and told Raymond to untie the rope and hand it to me as I could barely hang onto the uncontrolled horse.

Once I got the lead rope clipped back onto the halter, Raymond took the horse. I then went for my horse before there was another problem. As I was untying my horse, a lone wolf started to howl, then all of them started to howl. This scared the horses really bad.

I told Raymond to shoot his pistol in the direction of the howling. It stopped them for a few seconds and then they all started howling again. It sounded like maybe seven or eight wolves or more. As the horses [were] spinning around and blowing, I told Raymond to shoot again to shut them up as they were totally scaring the horses out of control. When he did shoot again, they shut up for it seemed 30 seconds to a minute or so. I told Raymond we needed to try and load the meat.

Then they started to howl again and they were closer to us. We couldn't at that point even try to load meat as the horses really started to go berserk. I picked up a backstrap to put into the panyard and Shotgun was out of control from the howling and gunshots.

Raymond said, "We need to get the hell out of here!" and I agreed with him as we both feared for our life at this point. I dropped the backstrap and started to follow Raymond down the road as his horse was almost dragging him and mine was doing the same.

We got about 50 to 75 yards down the road when the wolves were howling right next to us on the side of the road. I said, the bastards are following us, maybe trying to kill us or the horses. I told Raymond to shoot into the trees at them as we were trying to get away down the road. And that's what he did.

At that point the horses were totally out of control — damned near dragging us away. For an hour and a half back to the truck it was a rodeo with the horses as they were scared to death, spinning around and trying to look behind them for wolves.

I feel my horses — well, one is mine and one is a friend of mine's horse — anyway I feel they are probably never going to be calm in the woods again, as horses remember things forever.

On another note, I am very [angry]. I lost all my hard-earned elk meat to a pack of damned wolves. I feel fortunate and blessed by God to have gotten out of there with my life, my friend's life and [the] horses' lives. I've been out in the mountains five times in a week and have seen wolves on three of those times, including this attack.

Something needs to change! When Perry Brown and I went back, a grizzly had buried all my meat with the carcass (more misfortune).

Mark E. Appleby, November 1, 2010


Statement Of Raymond R. Pitman On Wolf Attack of October 30, 2010:

On Saturday, October 30 I left the house at 6:00 a.m. to go help Mark Appleby get his elk out of the woods. He had shot the elk the day before and needed the horses and some help to get it out.
So, we got to the gate just at daylight and saddled the horses. We rode up as far as we could to a gully that we had to make it through with the horses, and had about a half hour [hike] at that point to the elk.

From there, we walked the horses the rest of the way, keeping an eye out for bears, wolves, mountain lions, etc. There were some old tracks around ... singles, nothing fresh. Nonetheless, we started making noise [so] as to scare anything off.

About 200 yards from the elk, I pulled my revolver in case something noticed us first. We got to the elk, checked out the entire scene to see if anything had been on the quarters, and there was nothing out of place. Mark's hat was still exactly on top of the meat as he had left it. No tracks around to worry about. One coyote track. We checked the carcass from about 50 yards away ... nothing.

We thought everything was safe, so we made lunch on the jet boil. Took a little break for about 30 or 40 minutes, then got back to work cutting the lower legs of the elk. We then laid all the meat out to balance the load on the horses. We then thought to move the horses (after putting on the panyards) closer to the meat, so we tied them up closer.

As we lifted the first piece of meat, the horses started shying violently, with large fiery eyes. I thought to myself, "I thought these horses were used to meat." Mark, though, tried to calm Shotgun (his horse), but instead he was freaking out worse.

Mark turned and started to yell, "Wolves, Raymond!" I turned to see six or seven wolves at 20 yards or less coming in on us ... silently! No noise was heard. I pulled my .44 and fired a round up the hill as a warning. They didn't pause at all. So, I started pulling the trigger at the violent, incredibly fast pack of wolves. They were so close and [there were] so many of them. They were all around us from our 3 o'clock to our 9 o'clock [position], coming in for either the horses or the meat or us. We were definitely in a life or death situation.

As I shot the first two or so times, Mark made it to his rifle and started shooting as well ... all within seconds.

After the initial shots were fired, the horses ended up tied up on the tree, wrapped up. We fixed the horses and had them in hand. Mark and I were not able to load any meat as the wolves did not leave! They started howling, first one at about 50 yards, then getting closer, all of them. Again we had to leave ... we had to leave the meat on the ground.

I held my horse in one hand and my .44 in the other. I tried to get packed up from lunch and keep [hold] of the horse while still watching for those wolves to come through the timber again. They wouldn't quit, so we started out of there. They were coming after us again, so I fired up hill again to scare them off, twice. And yet again as we were walking out (being dragged almost) [by the horses], they kept coming. So after about 75 yards again, I had to fire another round into the sky. Then my .44 was out of bullets, so we got the heck out of there, looking over our shoulders the whole way.

God saved us this time, but those wolves are still out there. I won't go in these woods without a sidearm ever again. These wolves were not afraid of us at all. They are killers. If those horses [hadn't warned] us, they would have been on us in three seconds. [That's] the closest I have ever been to being food for a predator.

Raymond Pitman, November 2, 2010
 
Much better story written there then the one in the tribune.

http://www.greatfallstribune.com/article/20101110/NEWS01/11100312/Hunters-kill-wolf-out-of-fear-for-their-lives
 
. I tried to get packed up from lunch


Now, if you've got wolves coming after you....why would you waste time to pack up from lunch???

Makes no sense....get the hell out and shoot'em on the way out and LEAVE and SHUT UP!
 
A few years ago I'd call B.S. on their story but no more.
I was sitting for deer one evening when a lone wolf came out at about 100 yards and started walking away from me. I let it walk for a while to see if more were coming but when it got to 200 yards I thought I should shoot (for fear of missing, a bird in the hand...). I needed to turn it broadside so blew hard on a bleat call a few times, she turned and lights out. I stood and picked up my brass, shoved another shell in the tube and looked up..... to see another wolf standing 10 feet in front of me! A shot from the hip tumbled him. Now I know he came in to the bleat call, but he must of watched me fumbling around and knew I was a man. 30 seconds after the second shot the rest of the pack opened up howling just inside the tree line.
A local rancher came upon a wolf killed yearling a couple years ago and got out of his truck to check it out. He did his thing and when he went to return to his truck he found he was surrounded by wolves (this is broad daylight). He did the wave your arms and yell thing but they never retreated, he said what scared them off was the beeping of his cell phone when he was calling his wife to let her know where to find his body.
I think rural depopulation and changing lifestyles are to blame for these wild animals becoming more brazen. Used to be there was a gun in every porch, and pick-up truck. The brazen ones never had a chance to reproduce.
 
Sounds like more folks should carry a sidearm while taking care of ranch chores, hiking, ect. Better to have it and not need it than need it and not have it. In our country the varmints usually have 2 legs instead of 4 :wink:
 
BMR-TODAY was mail day,i got my western producer. i read the letter in response to sadie parr's ideas.he's right on target in my books. If the wolves did not wipe her out then the labor bill for 24/7 armed guards on the cattle would,not to mention trying to find the competent help to carry out the massive security detail.lets not forget we are in canada and have gun control lol :lol:
 

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