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Working Dogs (This one's for you Soap)

The more time u take up with a dog the better the dog. We keep ours either pened or chained but I try and take one with me all the time checkin on cattle, ones there. And relises he's not goin to work, just ridein. If I go to town, ones with me and knows to stay in the truck or if I come out from a store and he's out, a ash whippin's comein. This gets a better handle on them and when u work cattle, u got to have that handle. U might get 5 years out of a cowdog in this heat and a ruff cow will sure catch one if he aint careful. When its hot summertime weither, u had better look for places to water the dogs or they will get to hot. U had better look for gators and water snakes to cause the dogs will get in the water coolin off. We also ride our dogs in the stock trailer with the horses. They get along and sometimes buddy up with each other. My new stud was a little lerry of a dog but now pays them no mind. Like somebody posted. U got to be smarter than to dog. Most people don't have the pashunts to have a will make the time for a cow dog but if u do, u can sure figer what would I do with out one. I admire the heart and will they have. I've seen bad horse catchin bramah bulls put into sumition by a few cowdogs. He was glad to get back with the bunch after have a dog hangin on his lip and 2 on his ears. Real glad. No harm done to him.before that, he aint been pened in 3 years. And the next time they were worked,he behaved. That's what I mean about dogboke cattle. There a pleasure to pen. Get there early, get them pened before it gets to hot. The dogs get under the trailer and dig them a little cool spot in the dirt and rest. Just layin there hopein one might git out and needin bruoght back.
 
Pertnear said:
In most tails about dogs if the owner was smarter
than the dog most problems would be fixed.
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I'm not smarter than a dog, but I'm smart enough to know I'm not smarter than a dog, and smart enough to not have a dog that I'm not smarter than. :wink:
 
This winter, because I was tired of having the dogs either tied up or traveling, we purchased a wireless electronic fence. Man, is that a good deal. The dogs can roam freely in a 180 foot diameter, but get shocked if they try to leave their boundary. Works like a charm and keeps the dogs in the yard where they belong until needed.
Anyone else try one of these things?
 
Silver said:
This winter, because I was tired of having the dogs either tied up or traveling, we purchased a wireless electronic fence. Man, is that a good deal. The dogs can roam freely in a 180 foot diameter, but get shocked if they try to leave their boundary. Works like a charm and keeps the dogs in the yard where they belong until needed.
Anyone else try one of these things?
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I think Soapweed has one around all his pastures. :wink:
 
If I recall the bunch of dogs in Soap tail mite have had some cowdog &rotwiler? Funny how we all breed cattle strait and true .A cow dog is just a a dog is just a dog. Maybe if we had just cow we would have the same trouble!!!!!!!!
Ps or put a little mexicanfighting bull on them cows and see what we get.
 
Pertnear said:
If I recall the bunch of dogs in Soap tail mite have had some cowdog &rotwiler? Funny how we all breed cattle strait and true .A cow dog is just a a dog is just a dog. Maybe if we had just cow we would have the same trouble!!!!!!!!
Ps or put a little mexicanfighting bull on them cows and see what we get.
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I've had straight bred Dingos, Blue Heelers, and Border Collies in the past, and they are all a pain. I'm not a dog man, and have given up on that boyhood dream. As I said earlier, dogs are like coyotes and wolves, and are naturally an enemy to cattle. Horses aren't. Cows respect a horse, but they are always on edge with a dog in their presence. I don't plan to change my mind, so you can save wear and tear on your typing fingers. :wink: :-)
 
I think some of you all are barking up the wrong tree. I didn't make this post so that everyone could try to convince Soap that he needs a dog. I would venture to guess that there are a few of you on here that fit in the catergory of that guy that thinks no one else knows what a good dog is. I am not forcing my opinion on anyone. Soap is pretty thick skinned, he has taken the ribbing pretty well. I myself am getting tired of reading it. I just was sharing a story, not shorting Soap out to hammer on him.
 
I am one of those who is quite aware that his dog is actually NOT that good. Which is why I don't take her out that often. Of course, not taking her out that often is one reason she's not that good.....
Oh well. One thing I have taught her very well is "come". I can call her off of anything in any situation, so I guess that's a plus. I'm looking forward to calving season to be over so I can use her again.
 
flyingS said:
I think some of you all are barking up the wrong tree. I didn't make this post so that everyone could try to convince Soap that he needs a dog. I would venture to guess that there are a few of you on here that fit in the catergory of that guy that thinks no one else knows what a good dog is. I am not forcing my opinion on anyone. Soap is pretty thick skinned, he has taken the ribbing pretty well. I myself am getting tired of reading it. I just was sharing a story, not shorting Soap out to hammer on him.
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He's just fun to pick on. :D

I am quite sure that Soap knows me well enough to read the tongue in cheekness of my posts.
I also respect his position, we all do what works best for us. :wink:



Even though it's wrong. :P :P :P
 
gcreekrch said:
flyingS said:
I think some of you all are barking up the wrong tree. I didn't make this post so that everyone could try to convince Soap that he needs a dog. I would venture to guess that there are a few of you on here that fit in the catergory of that guy that thinks no one else knows what a good dog is. I am not forcing my opinion on anyone. Soap is pretty thick skinned, he has taken the ribbing pretty well. I myself am getting tired of reading it. I just was sharing a story, not shorting Soap out to hammer on him.
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He's just fun to pick on. :D

I am quite sure that Soap knows me well enough to read the tongue in cheekness of my posts.
I also respect his position, we all do what works best for us. :wink:



Even though it's wrong. :P :P :P
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Here are a couple personal dog stories to further support my position.

When I was a wee lad of about two, I was playing outside in my grandparents' houseyard in Minnesota. My uncle's dog was with with me, and evidently I antagonized the dog in some matter. It attacked and had me down. Mom heard my yelps from inside the house and came to my rescue. She got bit on her hand trying to pull the dog away from me, and I still have scars on top of my head and on my neck from the experience. Was it my fault or the dog's? Probably mine. :? Is a dog's life more important than a humans? Some would say it is, but fortunately for me, my relatives thought otherwise. :-) The dog was destroyed, and the head sent off to a laboratory to see if it had rabies. It didn't, so Mom and I didn't have to go through the vaccinations in our stomachs which made me very happy.

Back about twenty years ago, I heard an ad on the Chadron radio swap shop program of a Jeep Wagoneer for sale. It sounded appealing so off to Chadron I go to check out the deal. The people that had it lived out in the country, so I drove out to look. Arriving at the place, there seemed to be no activity. I went up to the front door, and rang the bell. There was no answer so I decided to go around to the back door. About halfway there, here came a stupid cowdog with murder in his eye. He instantly grabbed onto the high heel of my riding boot, and I had to drag him with me for a hundred feet. I just reached the back porch and was grabbing a piece of firewood to whomp on the danged dog, when the door opened. The lady didn't look very favorably at me because I was about to punch little Poochie. Her husband came out and showed me the Jeep, but by then I wasn't too interested in contributing any money that would be used to further contribute to the delinquency of the doofy dog. :roll:

Just last summer I had yearling heifers summered with some nice folks. One of the main reasons that our heifers won't be spending this summer there, is because the guy was always practicing the talents of his new cowdog on my heifers.
 
Now we know "The Rest of the Story". :wink:


Any dog that attacks a human unless a dog that has been commanded to do so should be put down.
It is my opinion that having a biting mutt is like removing the welcome mat from the doorstep.

That would have been a very traumatic experience for a two year old to go through Soap and would have left it's mark.

I still like my helpers and I really do understand your stance. :)
 
We live in a pretty rural and stable neighbourhood. We have had dogs that neighbours ASKED if we would bring them to help, and we have had dogs that I would be embarrassed to take out. We have also had some that were so working minded and sneaky about it that we had to put them down.
I was always taught that a dog stays home, unless they are being used on your own cattle or are good and being asked for by the neighbour.
If my dog was at the neighbours, or bugging cattle I would fully expect for it to be shot with no questions or excuses. Fortunately the neighbourhood pretty well all has the same code of conduct, but most of us will take the dog home at least twice.
I would way rather have 10,000 coyotes than 5 useless dogs as far as making trouble is concerned. :twisted:
 
Well, I won't feed a sorry dog. I love these old dogs and have had them for over 20 years. Mine all go back to a jyp I got from partin ranch in south fla, nown for there old line of cowdogs. I've line bred and inbred for a long time and have outcrossed to only some really good dogs that were distant kin to mine. They either make good cow dogs or good hogdogs or sometimes both. But one that done work. Well, he can't stay here. I worked cattle before that the owner would not let us use a dog. More than once. It generly ment a half a day gettin them pened. Also, have had the owner say go a head and dog them after several atemts to get them. And some times, we never put a dog out. I figer most pure bred breeders, that are into there cattle a lot, would not need a dog. And for sure, not a fla cur. There to ruff.just like the healers won't work real well on ruff cattle. The way they work and a curdog is way different. When ours drive cattle, there barkin and circle the bunch. Keepin them tight. Soap would surely have a fit if one of his babys pealed off and made a dash for it only to come back with a skint nose. And I don't blame him. If he can get her done with out a dog, I wouldn't use or won't one either.
 
RSL; It's not ever been my privelege to have one of my dogs invited, but I know some folks who have. It might be a coincidence, but they ride broke horses also...
I've never has a dog of mine uninvited, but they didn't go to every party within earshot. I'm of a mind this is a sort of a tool debate, some folks use spades and some use post-hole diggers, it depends what you can get the most good out of. Ain't diversity grand?
 
i would have to agree with Soapweed. i like having my dogs around, but when it comes time for cattle work, they better keep their azz in the yard.
 
Justin said:
i would have to agree with Soapweed. i like having my dogs around, but when it comes time for cattle work, they better keep their azz in the yard.
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I like to take a dog along. I find it makes for a happier home life to yell at the dog when things go wrong rather than the wife :wink: :lol:
 
Silver said:
Justin said:
i would have to agree with Soapweed. i like having my dogs around, but when it comes time for cattle work, they better keep their azz in the yard.
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I like to take a dog along. I find it makes for a happier home life to yell at the dog when things go wrong rather than the wife :wink: :lol:
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:lol: :lol: that's a good point.
 

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