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10501 R-Calf members?

Big Muddy rancher said:
I talk to our stockgrowers office and many directors all the time and field call from producers. I can't believe how so many of you R-CALFers won't call and tell non-members that if you want to know call yourself. It's as if you want to remain ignorant of the truth . By the way this is from the guy that called Goggins when the dispute was on about R-CALFers owning cattle in Canada but couldn't get past his secretary.
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We could call- but would you guys believe it unless you do it yourself...I knew how many members their were, so I didn't care- and if I told half of you you'd claim I was a liar...I've posted the monthly membership increases and someone always questions them- or cusses because you put the info out--Nobody also seemed to want to know about when and where and how much funds were raised at fundraisers...Kind of the Canadian way lately- bend over- stick heads in ground and smile as the packers and both governments take advantage of you......Then blame everything that has happened on R-CALF... :?
 
BMR...Are their privacy laws or why can't they post their membership list on the web site?



They post the number of members on their website. Are you asking for a list of names of members? If so, I do not know any organization that would do that.
 
HAY MAKER said:
Tommy said:
bill...Because I am interested in the truth.

Here is their telephone number Bill, call them up and get the correct membership number if you are so interested. Lets see if you have the ba**s to do so.

406-252-2516

[email protected]
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Well Tommy ,so much for Mr Bill he ran like a damn curr dog with his tail tucked between his legs.I would have thought as interested as he claimed to be he would have called and got back with us by now........good luck
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Just got back in. Haymaker is the one crowing about the 16000 plus R-Calf members and the official R-Calf article I posted was a copy of what Haymaker posted on Cattle Today. Didn't have the balls to post it here though did you Haymaker? Doesn't matter much as it is consistent with the rest of the misinformation R-Calf has spread. Why in the heck would I call the R-Calf office to confirm anything as a source of credible information? That's funny.
 
MR Bill if you knew that, and you deliberately left off the fact, I stated it was the jounalists mistake and not Shae's article just her e mail,that makes you a plain ole deciever dont it ? PS why do I get the feelin you're that ole packer lover that used to post under the alias GF??????besides you are the one wanting to stick that long nose of yours in the numbers. call em and find out ,just pick up the phone and call,tell them you are a ole packer lover and you would like to know how their membership is growing so fast.
 
Moose said:
Even if they have 16700 members it is still such a small percentage of cattlemen in the US.
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MOOSE its not so much that the membership is nearing 17000,its the fact that they ARE GROWING RAPIDLY WHILE THE NCBA IS CONSTANTLY LOSING MEMBERS...............good luck
 
The point is: Who the he!! cares how many members R-Calf has. I also don't care how many members the KKK has. I don't care how many members Hell's Angels have, and I don't care how many members the communist party of China has. I don't agree with any of them. I think they all have an altered perception of reality.
Go R-Calf. :lol: :roll: :roll: :roll:
 
moose...Even if they have 16700 members it is still such a small percentage of cattlemen in the US.

So is 25,000. That is the latest NCBA membership figure I read. And they say they speak for all US cattlemen. Just not this one!
 
Down here in the "good ole usa"numbers talk,you want something done you better have the numbers,thats the only thing politicians under stand .And that is why R CALF will eventually have a loud voice in the cattle industry,and for you canuckle heads to compare cattle men to radical groups like motorcycle clubs only proves you really dont under stand the issuses,this aint about hurting the canuckle head cattle men,its all about creating some fairness in the markets...........good luck
 
I wish it was about fairness in markets. Understanding the issues is what brings me to realize how stupid the r-calf position on trade is. Up here where democracy prevails we understand that. Some of you U-Hauls just don't get it.
 
T: "So is 25,000. That is the latest NCBA membership figure I read. And they say they speak for all US cattlemen. Just not this one!"

You are right Tommy! NCBA doesn't do a very good job of representing the blamers in this industry who do not base their decisions on factual information. I suspect that will always be the case.

Thank God we have an organization for blamers and one for forward thinking progressive producers that base their decisions on facts and can see the trade issues past the back of a Canadian potload of fat cattle.


~SH~
 
~SH~ said:
Thank God we have an organization for blamers and one for forward thinking progressive producers that base their decisions on facts and can see the trade issues past the back of a Canadian potload of fat cattle.


~SH~
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Amen to that. And it is organizations like the latter that keep me optomistic about the future of our friends and neighbours to the south.
 
HAY MAKER said:
Down here in the "good ole usa"numbers talk,you want something done you better have the numbers,thats the only thing politicians under stand .And that is why R CALF will eventually have a loud voice in the cattle industry,and for you canuckle heads to compare cattle men to radical groups like motorcycle clubs only proves you really dont under stand the issuses,this aint about hurting the canuckle head cattle men,its all about creating some fairness in the markets...........good luck
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Mototr cycle clubs? Since when did the HELLS ANGELS become a motorcycle club? R-Calf is well established as a radical group as there were statements by some members of sabatoge and road blockades against Canadian trucks if the border reopened to live cattle.
 
We don't have to compare r-calf to outlaw groups.... just the Public Citizens;the Consumer Federation of America;the Centre of Food Safety among others are bed partners with your precious organization. Their liberal agenda does not bode well for any part of the North American beef industry :!:
 
cowsense said:
Their liberal agenda does not bode well for any part of the North American beef industry :!:
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But it has boded well for the U.S. cattle industry- the people they represent...
 
Oldtimer said:
cowsense said:
Their liberal agenda does not bode well for any part of the North American beef industry :!:
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But it has boded well for the U.S. cattle industry- the people they represent...
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Has it? Really? Any hard evidence of that? Or just suppositions and speculation? And then there is the future....
 
Bill said:
R-Calf is well established as a radical group as there were statements by some members of sabatoge and road blockades against Canadian trucks if the border reopened to live cattle.
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Their has been talks of blockades by politicians and many farmers groups- but nothing like the blockades against US cattlemen who owned Canadian cattle that were blocked by Canadians from slaughtering their cattle....That and the "US diseased cattle" trade barrier that miracuously disappeared when Canadians were sucking up to get the border reopened--Good Old "Puritan Canadians" BS again :lol:
 
The only cattle blockaded were those owned by prominent R-calfers that were deliberately and unethically trying to profit from the border closure!There were lots of cattle killed that were owned by American investers that regularily feed in Canada..... these were the ones as well as all Canadian producers that were hurt by R-calf :!: :mad:
 
cowsense said:
The only cattle blockaded were those owned by prominent R-calfers that were deliberately and unethically trying to profit from the border closure!There were lots of cattle killed that were owned by American investers that regularily feed in Canada..... these were the ones as well as all Canadian producers that were hurt by R-calf :!: :mad:
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So its OK for US investors to invest money in Canada as long as you belong to the right groups or political parties-- "Puritan Canadians" should be allowed to pick and choose :???: that means its OK for US cattle producers to blockade cattle from CCA members- since CCA fought so hard for so many years to keep their "disease trade barrier" in place-- a barrier that for years US science said was a farce and was proven so when Canada dropped it when the squeeze was put on.......
 

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