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20 Month Old Positive in Japan?

Manitoba Rancher wrote;

Does Japan have any feed bans in place to keep animal tissues out of feed?



Food Safety Risk Assessment

Related to Measures Against

Bovine Spongiform Encephalopathy (BSE) in Japan

May 6, 2005

The Food Safety Commission

The Prion Expert Committee






http://www.fsc.go.jp/sonota/measure_bse_injapan170520.pdf



(*) SRM (specific risk materials) include, among others, brain, spinal cord and eyeballs, as well as the distal part of the ileum, of every cattle regardless of the age.
With the 100% cattle testing under this new system,



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BSE was found only about 20 years ago, and there is still much we do not know about this disease. Accordingly, the OIE code is not solid and is reviewed for revision year by year.
… to prevent and ultimately eliminate BSE, and to make early resumption of beef trade possible.



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http://www.us.emb-japan.go.jp/english/html/fafacts/bse/bse.htm




http://www.us.emb-japan.go.jp/english/html/fafacts/bse/bse.htm




Big Muddy writes;

I heard from CCAthat Japan won't let outside labs confirm those 24, 21 and 20 month cases they announced. Wonder why. ..............



hey there big muddy,

seems in the USA, nobody can work on research on BSE _period_ unless without written permission from the federal government, wonder why ??? ;-)



homeland security, Chertoff et al will solve our problem now ;-) the coordination was so good for katrina with FEMA, they thought they would take over agricultural animal disease, and pretty much everything else, God help us...TSS



Homeland Security: How about BSE [bovine spongiform encephalopathy (mad cow disease)]?

Craig Reed: Well BSE is not contagious. Animals have to eat infected tissues to get BSE. It's an ingestion mechanism rather than a contact mechanism. I tell people if you're a novelist, and you need to create a scary organism, BSE is a great one, because its untreatable, it's irreversible, and it's always fatal. The only thing that would make it worse is if it was highly contagious.

Homeland Security: And what's the incubation period?

Craig Reed: In cattle?

Homeland Security: In humans.

Craig Reed: It can be as long as twenty years, but it is dose dependent. Researchers are telling us it's dose dependent, and you've got to get infected tissue. And it's never been shown to be infective through muscle. It's infective through the central nervous system, which means unless you're eating brain in eggs your exposure rate is going to be pretty low, if any. Your exposure rate in the U.S. is zero anyway. We've looked for it in cattle. It has never been reported, but we keep trying to find it. We have received more than 13,000 bovine samples, and all are negative to date.

Homeland Security: So this is an easier one to control?

Craig Reed: Well, it's trickier. It gets trickier, because it's not apparent and the incubation period is so long. The time period between exposure and clinical signs can be very long. That's what makes it more complicated.

http://www.homelandsecurity.org/journal/Interviews/displayInterview.asp?interview=4

http://72.14.203.104/search?q=cache:ksMfDIP-IK4J:www.homelandsecurity.org/journal/Interviews/displayInterview.asp%3Finterview%3D4+HOMELAND+SECURITY+bse&hl=en&gl=us&ct=clnk&cd=1

A Perspective on U.S. Federal Preparedness and Response Efforts


http://www.icfconsulting.com/Markets/Homeland-Security/emergency-management-preparedness.asp#cow



strange, now check this out;

http://www.nasda.org/joint/06-2002Odom.htm

http://www.nasda.org/joint/06-10-2002APHIS.html


confusious is still confused...............NOT.............:-)



##################### Bovine Spongiform Encephalopathy #####################


CJD WATCH MESSAGE BOARD
TSS
Disease Emergence and Resurgence: The Wildlife-Human Connect
Thu Mar 30, 2006 16:45
70.110.93.218




Disease Emergence and Resurgence: The Wildlife-Human Connection

The USGS National Wildlife Health Center is pleased to announce the publication of Circular 1285 -- Disease Emergence and Resurgence: The Wildlife-Human Connection. This book was prepared in cooperation with the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service. Major funding support was provided by the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service, Division of Federal Assistance, Administrative Grant No. AP95-017.

The book is available for download in Adobe pdf format. By downloading and printing each of these files, you can reproduce the entire Circular 1285. You will need to have Adobe Acrobat Reader installed on your system to read pdf files. (Adobe Acrobat Reader download site)

The complete book as a single zipped PDF is available here. The individual sections of the book are available below.






http://www.nwhc.usgs.gov/publications/disease_emergence/index.jsp



TABLE OF CONTENTS;



http://www.nwhc.usgs.gov/publications/disease_emergence/Front.pdf



Chapter 5

Is This Safe to Eat?

"A crust eaten in peace is better than a banquet attended by anxiety." (Aesop, 6th century B.C.)

"There is no love sincerer than the love of food." (George Bernard Shaw)





SNIP...



Brain abscesses are occasionally found by deer hunters, but these lesions do not pose a health threat for humans and should not result in disposal of the carcass. These abscesses are thought to result from invasion by skin-inhabiting bacteria. They are much more prevalent in males than females, often are associated with the antler pedicel, and generally occur following velvet shedding to shortly after the antlers are shed.20 Brain tissue from infected animals should be discarded. Even if not infected, brain should no longer be utilized in any foods because of the emergence of chronic wasting disease (see Prions, this chapter).





Prions



Prion diseases continue to be a relatively little understood yet heavily studied group of emerging infectious diseases. They include scrapie, a long existing sheep disease; bovine spongiform encephalopathy (BSE) of cattle; Creutzfeld-Jacob disease (CJD) and kuru of humans; a variant CJD (vCJD) associated with BSE that causes disease in humans; mink spongiform encephalopathy; and most recently chronic wasting disease (CWD) of deer and elk.30,31CWD is of great concern to hunters and game ranchers as it is ultimately fatal and affects several deer species (Fig. 5.28). Unlike the vCJD associated with BSE, no link has been found between CWD and disease in humans. However, because there are many unanswered questions about CWD, health officials advise against consuming meat from animals known to be infected with CWD. In addition, hunters should wear disposable gloves when field dressing deer or elk taken in areas where this disease is found and when deboning meat. The purpose for deboning is to remove associated neural tissue, the consumption of which is considered to be the primary pathway for exposure to prions. A separate knife, not the one used to butcher the deer, should be used to sever the spinal cord when the head is removed. This precaution avoids contamination of the primary butcher knife by nerve tissue that may contain the disease agent if the animal was infected. Also, avoid handling and consuming brain, spinal cord, lymph nodes, eyes, tonsils, and spleen when processing deer and elk from areas where CWD is known to be present.30–32 Complete instructions on handling, testing, and disposing of deer and elk carcasses can be obtained from the Department of Natural Resources in the state where the deer or elk are to be harvested. Observations of deer or elk with the appearance of CWD should be reported to that agency.



Figure 5.28 Clinical signs and the unthrifty appearance of animals, rather than internal pathology, are indications of the potential that a deer or other cervid is infected with chronic wasting disease. Testing of appropriate tissue is required for a diagnosis.



http://www.nwhc.usgs.gov/publications/disease_emergence/Chapter5.pdf



Appendix C. Agents that require specific government approval for scientific investigations within the USA.a



Select agents, U.S. Department of Health and Human Services onlyb
High consequence pathogens and agents, U.S. Department of Agriculture onlyc
HIgh consequence livestock pathogens and toxins, overlap agents and toxinsd





(NO HUMAN TSE LISTED ???...tss) BSE agent



http://www.nwhc.usgs.gov/publications/disease_emergence/AppendixC.pdf





HHS AND USDA SELECT AGENTS AND TOXINS

7 CFR Part 331, 9 CFR Part 121, and 42 CFR Part 73







http://www.cdc.gov/od/sap/docs/salist.pdf



Greetings list members,



confusious asks;



WHY is it that BSE is listed as ;



Appendix C. Agents that require specific government approval for scientific investigations within the USA.a. ...



BUT, HUMAN TSE are NOT???



COULD you not do the same with a human TSE or other animal TSE ???



THE way the human tissue donor organ situation and the black market of that is set up, would not be too hard. ...



PRODUCTa) Product is 1.0 cc Regenaform® RT. SINGLE PATIENTUSE ONLY. Recall #
Z-0481-06;b) OPTEFORM Allografts of varying sizes. SINGLE PATIENTUSE ONLY.
Recall # Z-0482-06;c) Product is OPTEFORM Allograft Paste of varying
sizes.SINGLE PATIENT USE ONLY. Recall # Z-0483-06;d) OPTEFORM® RT Moldable
Allograft of varying sizes.SINGLE PATIENT USE ONLY. Recall # Z-0484-06;e)
Osteofil + RT Allograft Paste in varying sizes.SINGLE PATIENT USE ONLY.
Recall # Z-0485-06;f) Osteofil Allograft Paste (Bio) of varying sizes.SINGLE
PATIENT USE ONLY. Recall # Z-0486-06;g) Osteofil IC Syringeable of varying
sizes. SINGLEPATIENT USE ONLY. Recall # 0487-06;h) Osteofil ICM Moldable
Strip of varying sizes.SINGLE PATIENT USE ONLY. Recall # Z-0488-06;i)
Osteofil RT, ICM Allograft Paste of varying sizes.SINGLE PATIENT USE ONLY.
Recall # Z-0489-06;j) OSTEOFIL® DBM Paste of varying sizes. SINGLEPATIENT
USE ONLY. Recall # Z-0490-06;k) OsteoPack 3 FZ 22cc. SINGLE PATIENT USE
ONLY.Recall # Z-0491-06;l) Regenafil IC. SINGLE PATIENT USE ONLY.Recall #
Z-0492-06;m) REGENAFORM RT Allograft Paste, 1cc. SINGLEPATIENT USE ONLY.
Recall # Z-0493-06;n) Product is REGENAFORM® Allograft Moldable Blocks,of
varying sizes. SINGLE PATIENT USE ONLY.Recall # Z-0494-06;o) Product is RTI
Allograft Paste of varying sizes.SINGLE PATIENT USE ONLY. Recall #
Z-0495-06;p) Product is REGENAFIL® Allograft Paste, Syringe,0.5cc. SINGLE
PATIENT USE ONLY. Recall # 0496-06;q) Product is 1.0cc flowable paste from
donorapproved for distribution in Italy. SINGLEPATIENT USE ONLY. Recall #
Z-0497-06;r) Product is OPTEFIL Allograft Paste of varyingsizes. SINGLE
PATIENT USE ONLY. Recall# Z-0498-06;s) Product is OPTEFIL Allograft Paste,
Syringeof varying sizes. SINGLE PATIENT USE ONLY.Recall # Z-0499-06;t)
Product is OPTEFORM® Allograft Full Disc,5 x 90mm, 32cc, Frozen. SINGLE
PATIENT USEONLY, Recall # Z-0500-06;u) Product is 2.0 cc Opteform® RT.
SINGLEPATIENT USE ONLY. Recall # Z-0501-06CODE2879130 2879131 2879132
2879133 2879134 2879135 2879136 2879137 28791382879139 2879350 2879351
2879352 2879353 2879354 2879355 2879440 28794412879442 2879443 2879444
2879445 2879446 2879447 2879448 2879449 28794502879451 2879452 2879453
2879454 2879455 2879456 2879457 2879458



snip...literally 100s and 100s and 100s, much to many recalls to post here,
first few and last few lines posted here... TSS



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2669554 2669556 2669559 2669633 26696362669639 2669640 2669965 2669967
2669968 2669969 2669981 2669983 2669985



RECALLING FIRM/MANUFACTURERRegeneration Technologies, Inc., Alachua, FL, by
letter on October 14, 2005.Firm initiated recall is ongoing.

REASON The tissue was collected from donors for whom there is

___no verifiableidentity or consent___.

The medical records and social histories of the donorscannot be ascertained.
The devices which incorporate these donor bonetissues undergo processing,
including sterilization, which has beenvalidated to inactivate and/or remove
all viral diseases for which humantissue donors are tested.



VOLUME OF PRODUCT IN COMMERCE 5,320 DISTRIBUTION



Nationwide and Internationally END OF ENFORCEMENT REPORT FOR FEBRUARY 15,
2006



###

http://www.fda.gov/bbs/topics/enforce/2006/ENF00939.html


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Mike wrote;

Amazing what we can hear. The Japs have there own OIE Lab. Something that North America does not.

http://www.fsc.go.jp/sonota/measure_bse_injapan.pdf



Mike don't forget;



THE OIE has now shown they are nothing more than a National Trading Brokerage for all strains of animal TSE.
AS i said before, OIE should hang up there jock strap now, since it appears they will buckle every time a country makes some political hay about trade protocol, commodities and futures. IF they are not going to be science based, they should do everyone a favor and dissolve there organization. With Science like this, Japan would be fully justified in declining to be a member. ...



http://www.fda.gov/ohrms/dockets/dockets/03n0312/03N-0312_emc-000001.txt


http://brain.hastypastry.net/forums/archive/index.php/t-54550.html


http://www.crisscross.com/jp/news/339888




TSS
 
Your asking about integrety with the United States Government>>> what a joke.

This is the same government that invaded Iraq with their own weapons of mass destruction. This being depleted uranium weaponry. Well folks, guess what depleted uranium is a more than just a little radioactive, like many of the military reports claim.

Over 400,000 soldiers from the US military have been placed on permanent disability since the first invasion of Iraq in 1991. When they return from Iraq and Afganastan, they have children, and there is a startling increase in birth defects in these soldiers' babies. Not to mention the genecide which is occuring in Iraq because of the USA's and UK's use of depleted uranium weapons.

Now, there is much talk of a USA pre-emptive strike on Iran with a nuclear bomb if they continue to move ahead on their nuclear fuel plans.

Yes, this is the same government that condones giving newborn babies vaccines for hepatitis. And allows mercury in vaccines for people, when it was removed from dog vaccines - because it killed too many dogs.

I'm sorry that BSE is getting more attention than this other man-made disaster. When we talk about the science on this board, there is not one of us who can tell the rest what exactly makes up the prion protein, ie: what metals, molecules, compounds..... The prion protein may only be a chaperone for the actual deadly agent, or the result of the breakdown in defence mechanisms in our body of which the healthy prion participates.

Transmission experiments have been sloppy at best, when the scientists don't even know what they are injecting, drenching or feeding. In natural BSE cases (not experimental), the only place which prions have been found to accummulate is the retina, spinal cord and brain. The UK (Well's) experimental transmission study which found prions in the distal ileum, did not find them in every animal and does not explain why they are not present there in naturally occurring cases.

Why shouldn't there be causes of younger animals born after the feed ban (BSE). The UK has had over a hundred since their second ban, and over 40,000 since their first ban.

Areas of high population, are going to see cases likely due to the spreading of sewage sludge on farm land (another source of deadly metals and chemicals).

Iatrogenic tranmission (of the unidentified agent) is the main concern; but, once again if scientists refuse to "characterize the metals, etc. .which make up the mal-formed proteins.... there will be no answers; just years and years of more superficial research.

Considering that hundreds of thousands of people are affected by depleted uranium contamination - we will most likely see progress coming from another area of research, than prion science.

Even so, more evidence will soon be published which confirms the works of Mark Purdey and Dr. David R. Brown. But you will have to wait to see it.
 

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