burnt
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So sorry to hear of your troubles, Nicky. It sure doesn't take long for things to go badly wrong when there is a grouchy cow involved.
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I put one in this morning and this is her last chance.
I bought her with a group of 6 bread registered Charolis hiefers in 2005 and when they started calving everything seemed normal untill the one I taged K 15 had her calf. Out of the blue when I went to check on the calf the mom with no warning charged about 25 feet and knocked me on my butt then went back to her calf.
I decided this was just first calf jitters and left her alone till the next day. I loaded my pockets with golf ball sized rocks the next day and when she turned to me I put 5 or 6 on her forhead in rapid sucession. Then as I slowly approached talking calmly if she moved ahead everything was fine for a while then she charged and knocked me down again and then I called the dogs and put her in the barn. Taged her calf and turned her with the rest that had already calved. She does respect my dogs and as long as they are with me I am safe but I down them several yards away when I'm tagging or otherwise messing with calves. Most of the time the cows will either keep watch on the dogs and make it easier for me to work with the calves or pay no attention to the dogs at all as they are with them a couple of times a day most days.
Next year was not quite as bad but everyone here knows when K 15 has a calf don't go in a small pasture or she will run you out and stand on the other side of the gate and bellow like a bull and paw the ground.
She calved on Monday and this is the first time I was able to get close ( I went to the barn at about 6:30 AM and they were all still in ) I penned her and her clalf in an 18' X 15' area with full southern exposure. Put straw in a corner for the calf. Now she is going to eat from my hand for a few days or she is going to do without!
After about 6 hours I was able to get her to eat 2 flakes one handful at a time ( thru a stout pipe gate) She would be standing there eating like everything was fine then bellow and hit the gate with great force! I left her for about 3 hours and when I went back she hit the gate full force then retreated to a far corner. I stood there singing to her ( I know torture is not fair ) holding hay in plain site untill she moved forward slowly and she ate a good sized flake then moved off.
I made sure there was nothing for her to eat and left ( I put a water tub in ) I will go back at dusk and keep up a 3 times a day feeding ( always leaving slightly hungry ) for a few days. If she comes around fine if not I will ship her at weaning ( I know I should have several years ago ) as I feel I'm getting to old to put up with this type of behavior.
If you notice the Charolis cow that is watching me take this picture from about 200 yards away that is her!
I don't have a clue why she is this way as she was 2 years old when I got her but this is her last chance. This cow almost always has a dirty face - - - she will be out in the pasture and start pawing the ground and bellowing with no one around and then just start ramming the ground with her head and bellowing the whole time. I think she is crazy!
I will make sure she goes to slaughter if I sell her as I don't want anyone getting hurt.
I bought her with a group of 6 bread registered Charolis hiefers in 2005 and when they started calving everything seemed normal untill the one I taged K 15 had her calf. Out of the blue when I went to check on the calf the mom with no warning charged about 25 feet and knocked me on my butt then went back to her calf.
I decided this was just first calf jitters and left her alone till the next day. I loaded my pockets with golf ball sized rocks the next day and when she turned to me I put 5 or 6 on her forhead in rapid sucession. Then as I slowly approached talking calmly if she moved ahead everything was fine for a while then she charged and knocked me down again and then I called the dogs and put her in the barn. Taged her calf and turned her with the rest that had already calved. She does respect my dogs and as long as they are with me I am safe but I down them several yards away when I'm tagging or otherwise messing with calves. Most of the time the cows will either keep watch on the dogs and make it easier for me to work with the calves or pay no attention to the dogs at all as they are with them a couple of times a day most days.
Next year was not quite as bad but everyone here knows when K 15 has a calf don't go in a small pasture or she will run you out and stand on the other side of the gate and bellow like a bull and paw the ground.
She calved on Monday and this is the first time I was able to get close ( I went to the barn at about 6:30 AM and they were all still in ) I penned her and her clalf in an 18' X 15' area with full southern exposure. Put straw in a corner for the calf. Now she is going to eat from my hand for a few days or she is going to do without!
After about 6 hours I was able to get her to eat 2 flakes one handful at a time ( thru a stout pipe gate) She would be standing there eating like everything was fine then bellow and hit the gate with great force! I left her for about 3 hours and when I went back she hit the gate full force then retreated to a far corner. I stood there singing to her ( I know torture is not fair ) holding hay in plain site untill she moved forward slowly and she ate a good sized flake then moved off.
I made sure there was nothing for her to eat and left ( I put a water tub in ) I will go back at dusk and keep up a 3 times a day feeding ( always leaving slightly hungry ) for a few days. If she comes around fine if not I will ship her at weaning ( I know I should have several years ago ) as I feel I'm getting to old to put up with this type of behavior.
If you notice the Charolis cow that is watching me take this picture from about 200 yards away that is her!
I don't have a clue why she is this way as she was 2 years old when I got her but this is her last chance. This cow almost always has a dirty face - - - she will be out in the pasture and start pawing the ground and bellowing with no one around and then just start ramming the ground with her head and bellowing the whole time. I think she is crazy!
I will make sure she goes to slaughter if I sell her as I don't want anyone getting hurt.
Northern Rancher
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Those are the kind you butcher at home so you have the pleasure of administering the coupe de grace!
Kato
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Or you take them to the auction mart, make them write "WATCH HER" on the ticket, then sit back and watch the show when she goes through the ring. :twisted: :wink: :wink: :wink: :wink:
Faster horses
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They never get better with age, only worse!
Northern Rancher
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Cows don't-women do :wink:
Big Muddy rancher
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Let me get this straight, Cows don't get worse with age but women do? :???: :lol: :lol:
Faster horses
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Well, according to NR... 
Northern Rancher
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Better man better!!
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Soapweed said:
Sounds like a job for the younger generation-- those that are still bulletproof and can leap high corrals in a single bound :wink: :lol:
Soapweed
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Oldtimer said:
It was, and he did. :wink:
burnt
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Faster horses said:
Maybe, maybe not.
I have a Red Angus 4 year old that ground her 1st calf into the dirt for almost an hour before I finally got it pulled away from her under a fence. Then she jumped the fence and tried to grind on me but I managed to duck around the trees before she'd get to me. Scary time, for sure, and I didn't want to trip on a root!
She's never made trouble since, although I haven't forgotten her start-up show . . .
You never know what can happen when the hormones and instincts go into overdrive.
Nicky
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Thanks guys, I'm fine...sore but fine Pictures are coming...it will Mike's inagural (sp) post. I think he done with it but won't let me look. lol
It's been interesting to say the least. Had two yesterday that we had to take the calves away until they could stand up as the stupid cows were rolling them around. One ended up in a ditch with water in it, the other 100 yds from the straw it was born on in the mud :x
Pictures are coming...it will Mike's inagural (sp) post. I think he done with it but won't let me look. lolIt's been interesting to say the least. Had two yesterday that we had to take the calves away until they could stand up as the stupid cows were rolling them around. One ended up in a ditch with water in it, the other 100 yds from the straw it was born on in the mud :x
This is a much calmer K15 - - - She crushed her water tub over night but only gets fed if she is calm.
She does not even care if the pups come in but humans are a different story!
This is the little guy that set her off this year. He will come to the fence and get a good scratching if Moma is getting hand fed a few feet away.
This is Debi hand feeding - - - Keeping a good gate between!
This is K 116 ( first calf of the year ) wanting to know wht she is not getting all of the attention!
She does not even care if the pups come in but humans are a different story!
This is the little guy that set her off this year. He will come to the fence and get a good scratching if Moma is getting hand fed a few feet away.
This is Debi hand feeding - - - Keeping a good gate between!
This is K 116 ( first calf of the year ) wanting to know wht she is not getting all of the attention!
Northern Rancher
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Be careful she doesn't decide to flip out and pop the latch or break the chain on that gate. Gate rash can make you spit chicklets!
Nicky
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Still has 'that look' in her eye! Be careful....
If you notice beside Debi's left elbow you will see the 2"wide 1/4" thick nylon strap that is buckled around the 6"X6" post. She has bent the gate but I hope that is about over - - - - I will never trust her but hope to be able to get along - - - if not she will ship!
jodywy
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Nicky this song can work 2 ways, the last thing you saw, or did you get a black eye?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CJ3DWa_QLO4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CJ3DWa_QLO4
Went to give her a feeding about noon and she had jumped on the gate and rode it down enough that she got out but was standing there raising the devil as the calf could not get to her.
I swung another gate around and tagged the calf and then turned it to her.
She has made the decision - - - - this fall she will be hamburger!
One thing about her is her calf will never get more than 10' away clear till weaning. It is funny to watch as her calves grow and try to get out and play with the other calves. She will keep chasing after her calf and bawling the whole time!
I swung another gate around and tagged the calf and then turned it to her.
She has made the decision - - - - this fall she will be hamburger!
One thing about her is her calf will never get more than 10' away clear till weaning. It is funny to watch as her calves grow and try to get out and play with the other calves. She will keep chasing after her calf and bawling the whole time!
