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Balers

For my money, we had neighbours that had problems with the NH 660. After our 855 (chains and bars) we went away from a NH baler. The 855 was a fabulous baler (although so long ago the amount of repairs may be a fond memory rather than reality). Our neighbour had an 858 which was basically an 855 with 8' bars instead of 5'. the baler had a cylinder on the tongue so it could weave to cover the whole pickup. Those were big bales. They used to haul 2 at a time on a Versatile 276 frontwards/backwards tractor doing 30 miles an hour down the road.
They have a pretty fun place...
 
I been running JD balers have a 566 right now and had a 535 before that. That 535 was the best damm baler around. I like the 566 to it has net wrap wont have another baler without it. But I am looking and up grading to a new baler. Yesterday I had to replace the gear box on the 566 nocked out the front seal and smoke the gears. :???: Well after $1500 for the gear box and some other parts just dont know if its worth it to keep putting money in the baler has 35,000 bales throught it now.

Really like the new JD 568, looked at some of the new New holland balers like the to :? Has anyone ran the new Hesston balers that are all automatic never seen one run just read the info on them.
 
The skins on the inside of the chamber on our 535 are getting thin. Will get this year out of them and then plan on plug welding another piece of 14 or 16 gauge to the existing skin.
I can't justify the new price of a baler when this one is still making hay.
 
With no hay put up yet and 3 days of hot sun under our belt, I'm actually wishing I had a mower and baler again. Haven't had one around for 9 years, and everyone here is so far behind with all the rain that I can't find anyone to come do it for me. :(
 
We run new hollands. We have the extra wide pickups and after a couple of years we figured out that if we take a deflector off of our 21 foot macdon draper header and run the hay out the side that we can bale two windrows together without raking. It works pretty good and you can eat up acres baling 84 feet in a round.
 
lazy ace you either have huge windrows or very sparse crop condition to put 84 feet in a windrow the most we put together is three for a 30 foot on swamp meadows.
 
PureCountry said:
With no hay put up yet and 3 days of hot sun under our belt, I'm actually wishing I had a mower and baler again. Haven't had one around for 9 years, and everyone here is so far behind with all the rain that I can't find anyone to come do it for me. :(
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There is a 855nh sitting in some tall grass and Hibbards in Minton Sk. :D
 
Big Muddy rancher said:
PureCountry said:
With no hay put up yet and 3 days of hot sun under our belt, I'm actually wishing I had a mower and baler again. Haven't had one around for 9 years, and everyone here is so far behind with all the rain that I can't find anyone to come do it for me. :(
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There is a 855nh sitting in some tall grass and Hibbards in Minton Sk. :D
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I've got three Massey dyna-balance mowers in various stages of disrepair,
with a few trips to the parts depot you might end up with one that cuts! :D
 
Big Muddy rancher said:
i"m using a NH664 with endless belts except for the one I lost in the field tonight. :shock:
I make my bales 60 inces high and run the pressure quit high but i would have to look again to remember just what it is. I like the 60 inch size for hauling on our narrow roads and for feeding. I can handle two in the bucket loading and unloading.

What do you guys use and how big do you make your bales/

Any comments on Vermeers?
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I use a Vermeer 555XL. It's a five foot wide baler and makes a bale up to 65 or 66 inches tall. I make mine 62 inches. It uses hydraulic pressure to regulate how tight they are and you can make them plenty heavy if you turn the pressure to it. I've weighed some dry hay - basically just straw - and they weighed right at 1200 at that size. Get into wet hay and it will make them so heavy that they won't unload.

I think they've discontinued that baler, but at the time I got mine it was about $10K cheaper than the 605 baler. I didn't want to make six foot bales anyway, since they're so hard on equipment, so this size fits me just right. I don't bale as much hay as most of you - 1200 bales is a big year for me - but I've been running it for seven or eight years and the only thing I've replaced is a couple of sprockets. It's still got all the original teeth, chains, belts and bearings.

You're welcome to come try it out for a few days if you think it will help you decide. :lol:
 
We use two Vermeer L model balers and like them quite well. They are getting some years on them but still make nice bales. We pull them with Agco Allis tractors, a 2003 RT115 (115 hp) and a 1994 8630 (120 hp). It is handy having two balers the same, because they can be switched to the other tractor if need be.

For tying the bales we like sisal twine the best but the bales sure need to be hauled into the yards in timely fashion before the twine rots. Next choice is solar degradable twine, then plastic, and in last place comes net wrapping. Net wrapping is a real pain in the wintertime.

If I were to buy a new baler, it would probably be a Vermeer 605 M. We have had good luck with Vermeer balers through the years. There are two Vermeer dealers fairly close, 60 miles east and 80 miles west. Both dealers are great people with service that can't be beat.
 
Justin said:
Faster horses said:
Our neighbor has one of those balers, Texan, and it makes a
terrific looking bale. He likes it.
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the operator may have something to do with that. :P :wink:
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No kiddin'!

Each of my 3 boys can make a much more consistent bale than I. All day long. But I'm proud rather than jealous of them! :D :D :D

The time that really shows the baler driver's skills (or lack of) is when the bales are wrapped in a tube . . . how do I know? Well I'll let you guess! :lol: :lol:
 
I am running a new AGCO 5556A netwrap baler with the silage kit, essentially a Hesston. I have put 600 through it and I much prefer it to the JD I had before, a better monitor,piuckup and the Autocycle is very handy. works well in the nasty high moisture bale wrapping we were doing and i am averaging a little more than 30 bales per hour. i will never go back to twine again. Finally done my first cut, The best hay i put up had 1" of rain, the worst, 6", the cows will use thier teetha nd rumens this winter I guess.
 
We've used NH balers since we quit stacking in the early '90s. We've had 855s, a 660, 664, 688, and a BR780A. They have all been good balers. Currently use the old 664 and the BR780A. The 664 has a zillion bales through it and it's been a good baler. The BR80A has the wide pickup and it's been pretty much trouble free as well. We always have our machines gone through in the dealers winter fix program. It cost some $$, but we've always felt it was worth it because it eliminates a lot of breakdowns during haying. I'd stay away from a BR780. Some folks had a lot of trouble with them. We make our bales 66" tall. If we make them taller and they settle a little then they don't want to load on the D/W feeder
 
miocene said:
lazy ace you either have huge windrows or very sparse crop condition to put 84 feet in a windrow the most we put together is three for a 30 foot on swamp meadows.
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Pretty descent windrows but it would be 84 feet to a round just 42 in the windrow. there certainly isn't any weaving back and forth.
 
Ranch77 that a very good point about taking your balers into a dealer during the winter. I always take our 3x3 baler in and it runs like a top its a Hesston 4755. I have not taking in our round baler in the last couple years and its really showing now. Just this week alone I have spent $1700 on our JD 566 (smoked the gear box) and then last night the shaft that runs from the gear box out to the chain on the left side of the baler snaped in two.

I would not buy a baler without net wrap saves so much time in the field. I timed it last night from when I had a full bale and it started to wrap to when i kicked it out the back was 15 sec (wraping to gates opening and closing). I dont care how big of a pain it is during the winter when I can go like that.
 
Not pointing any fingers, but I always get a chuckle out of those that like net wrap for it's speed but still use a sickle bar haybine / mower :D
If I were making hay for sale I would use the netwrap, but never for my own use. Bought some hay with it on one time and that was enough. Now if they could make that wrap out of sisal I'd be willing to reconsider.
I don't know if any of you have ever picked up plastic twine or netwrap with your discbine but I can tell you that that is an expensive proposition. :mad:
 

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