Blast from the past

[Texan]

BTW did you hear the former president Bush say he didn't want his name associated with the Bush Tax Cuts??

Actually, that's not what he said. He made the statement - laughingly - that the Bush tax cuts would have a better chance of being extended if his name wasn't associated with them. You should be able to find a short video online to refresh your memory. I remember seeing it on the news at the time, and it's only been a few weeks. But, you go ahead and look it up and see which one of us has made the more accurate description of what he said.

After you look it up, a question you should ask yourself is this:

Why are people like you and Oldtimer so willing to make things up just to distort the truth?

Is that a tactic that is systemic among you socialists/liberals? It certainly seems to be the philosophy of the Obama team:

It doesn't have to be true. Repeat it often enough and the brain-dead dupes that voted for us will believe it.

 

[Tam]

BTW did you hear the former president Bush say he didn't want his name associated with the Bush Tax Cuts??

Actually, that's not what he said. He made the statement - laughingly - that the Bush tax cuts would have a better chance of being extended if his name wasn't associated with them. You should be able to find a short video online to refresh your memory. I remember seeing it on the news at the time, and it's only been a few weeks. But, you go ahead and look it up and see which one of us has made the more accurate description of what he said.

After you look it up, a question you should ask yourself is this:

Why are people like you and Oldtimer so willing to make things up just to distort the truth?

Is that a tactic that is systemic among you socialists/liberals? It certainly seems to be the philosophy of the Obama team:

It doesn't have to be true. Repeat it often enough and the brain-dead dupes that voted for us will believe it.

I'm betting TSR gets his news from the ubber honest creative editing room at MSNBC? :wink:

You know the one. The one that tagged Zimmerman as a racist because of a EDITED 911 tape. The one that called the tea partier a white racist because a EDITED townhall meeting tape. The one that came out and said the editing was a MISTAKE and they tossed the guilty person under the bus. OH I mean was relieved of his duties. :roll:

 

[Tam]

All I can remember is Pres. Bush stating the US economy is on "sound footing" and a couple of weeks later nearing the end of his tenure in office, he was begging for Congress to pass a bailout on national TV. I guess I was one of the few that saw it. :roll: Its why the republican's idea of going back to relaxing regulations on ALL businesses including the conglomerates is facing so much scrutiny today. Americans, I don't think are that stupid to go back to the absence of regulations that had a great deal to do in leading to the, the, BUSH BUST. BTW did you hear the former president Bush say he didn't want his name associated with the Bush Tax Cuts??

Apr 10, 2012 12:21pm

Bush Tax Cuts: George W. Wishes They Didn't Bear His Name

Making a rare post-presidential policy address, former President George W. Bush said he wishes the "Bush tax cuts" had someone else's name attached to them because "if they were called somebody else's tax cuts, they'd probably be less likely to be raised."

First one Taken from ABC news next from Newser website last one from Forbes

Bush on Bush Tax Cuts: Wish They Had Other Name

By Evann Gastaldo, Newser Staff
Posted Apr 10, 2012 12:10 PM CDT
(Newser) – George W. Bush has a problem with the Bush tax cuts: Namely, he doesn't appreciate the fact that they're called the Bush tax cuts. Speaking at the New York Historical Society for his own presidential center's conference on tax policies this morning, Bush noted, "If you raise taxes, in other words if you let the—I wish they weren't called the 'Bush tax cuts.' If they were called some-other-body's tax cuts, they're probably less likely to be raised. But if you raise taxes, you're taking money out of the pockets of consumers."

Markets|4/10/2012 @ 9:10AM
George W. Bush: I Wish They Weren't Called The Bush Tax Cuts

Former U.S. President George W. Bush called for pro-growth tax policies to create a more robust private sector Tuesday morning in a rare public appearance.

Growing the public sector is easy, Bush said, "just raise taxes." Supporting private-sector growth is more challenging the former commander-in-chief said, and requires leaving more capital in the hands of job creators.

"I wish they weren't called the 'Bush tax cuts'," he said, surmising that they would be less likely to be raised if someone else's name was attached.

TSR HINT read past the headline and see what he really said. :wink: :roll:

 

[Whitewing]

..But you are right- the investigative and enforcement arms of the CFTC were so gutted during the Bush administration..

I have no clue if that statement is correct or not, but since you have a long history of pulling assertions out of your ass when you believe they support your argument, I ask you to please provide proof that the Bush administration gutted the investigative and enforcement arms of the CFTC.

I won't hold my breath waiting for your proof.

I'd also be interested in seeing that proof. Would you mind providing a link for us, Oldtimer? I've looked for something and can't find anything to back up your claim.

Since OldLardAzz has failed to return to this thread, I'll take a stab at an answer for him:

I saw it on C-Span one day during Congressional testimony. Republican members were visibly disgusted and astonished with what Bush had done. Take my word for it. I'm a former Sheriff with 30+ years of law enforcement experience and I'd never fasely accuse anyone of anything without solid proof.

Oh, I'm a secret agent too, complete with my own decoder ring.

Well, how'd I do?

 

[Mike]

I have no clue if that statement is correct or not, but since you have a long history of pulling assertions out of your ass when you believe they support your argument, I ask you to please provide proof that the Bush administration gutted the investigative and enforcement arms of the CFTC.

I won't hold my breath waiting for your proof.

I'd also be interested in seeing that proof. Would you mind providing a link for us, Oldtimer? I've looked for something and can't find anything to back up your claim.

Since OldLardAzz has failed to return to this thread, I'll take a stab at an answer for him:

I saw it on C-Span one day during Congressional testimony. Republican members were visibly disgusted and astonished with what Bush had done. Take my word for it. I'm a former Sheriff with 30+ years of law enforcement experience and I'd never fasely accuse anyone of anything without solid proof.

Oh, I'm a secret agent too, complete with my own decoder ring.

Well, how'd I do?

You forgot something.................

The very next morning after the Oklahoma City Bombing, he woke up with a Ryder truck outside his motel room window which gave him the "willies" because a Ryder truck was used in the bombing. :lol:

(This is very odd, and better yet an outright lie, since the FBI did not release any info about a Ryder truck involvement until afternoon on the day after the bombing.) :roll: :roll: :roll:

We all know he's not a "Medium" because he's an XXXXXXLARGE !!!!! :lol:

 

[TSR]

All I can remember is Pres. Bush stating the US economy is on "sound footing" and a couple of weeks later nearing the end of his tenure in office, he was begging for Congress to pass a bailout on national TV. I guess I was one of the few that saw it. :roll: Its why the republican's idea of going back to relaxing regulations on ALL businesses including the conglomerates is facing so much scrutiny today. Americans, I don't think are that stupid to go back to the absence of regulations that had a great deal to do in leading to the, the, BUSH BUST. BTW did you hear the former president Bush say he didn't want his name associated with the Bush Tax Cuts??

Apr 10, 2012 12:21pm

Bush Tax Cuts: George W. Wishes They Didn't Bear His Name

Making a rare post-presidential policy address, former President George W. Bush said he wishes the "Bush tax cuts" had someone else's name attached to them because "if they were called somebody else's tax cuts, they'd probably be less likely to be raised."

First one Taken from ABC news next from Newser website last one from Forbes

Bush on Bush Tax Cuts: Wish They Had Other Name

By Evann Gastaldo, Newser Staff
Posted Apr 10, 2012 12:10 PM CDT
(Newser) – George W. Bush has a problem with the Bush tax cuts: Namely, he doesn't appreciate the fact that they're called the Bush tax cuts. Speaking at the New York Historical Society for his own presidential center's conference on tax policies this morning, Bush noted, "If you raise taxes, in other words if you let the—I wish they weren't called the 'Bush tax cuts.' If they were called some-other-body's tax cuts, they're probably less likely to be raised. But if you raise taxes, you're taking money out of the pockets of consumers."

Markets|4/10/2012 @ 9:10AM
George W. Bush: I Wish They Weren't Called The Bush Tax Cuts

Former U.S. President George W. Bush called for pro-growth tax policies to create a more robust private sector Tuesday morning in a rare public appearance.

Growing the public sector is easy, Bush said, "just raise taxes." Supporting private-sector growth is more challenging the former commander-in-chief said, and requires leaving more capital in the hands of job creators.

"I wish they weren't called the 'Bush tax cuts'," he said, surmising that they would be less likely to be raised if someone else's name was attached.

TSR HINT read past the headline and see what he really said. :wink: :roll:

I'll just let the viewers here on Rnet read what you posted (with respect to Bush's comment) and make up their own mind. And no doubt we need to follow Bush's policies, as at the end of his presidency the economy was GREAT. :wink:

 

[Mike]

And no doubt we need to follow Bush's policies, as at the end of his presidency the economy was GREAT.

Some people keep forgetting that the Dems took over congress in Jan of 2007......................that's when the dowhill slide started........... :lol: :lol:

 

[TSR]

And no doubt we need to follow Bush's policies, as at the end of his presidency the economy was GREAT.

Some people keep forgetting that the Dems took over congress in Jan of 2007......................that's when the dowhill slide started........... :lol: :lol:

I think most voter's memory is pretty good. We'll see, I guess, come November. :wink: I still wish there was a 3rd party running.

 

[Whitewing]

I'm betting Obama would give his left nad to have that 6% unemployment rate Bush left him.

 

[TSR]

Well then, it will be No problems for the Rep.'s then as Romney and whoever his running mate may turn out to be will broadcast this fact from coast to coast until November, and it will be very effective. Right?????

 

[Whitewing]

Well then, it will be No problems for the Rep.'s then as Romney and whoever his running mate may turn out to be will broadcast this fact from coast to coast until November, and it will be very effective. Right?????

Uh, yeah. A misery index, Bush versus Obama is in order. Unemployment rates, housing prices, deficit spending, gasoline prices...just to name a few. Care to pen those numbers for us?

 

[Whitewing]

Here ya go TSR:

http://www.boston.com/Boston/politicalintelligence/2012/04/mitt-romney-with-nod-ronald-reagan-asking-voters-how-life-has-improved-under-obama/hFWSQSyMlBORsc1ne1wRzO/index.html

"Is it easier to make ends meet? Is it easier to sell your home or buy a new one?" he said, as the crowd cheered "NO!"

"Have you saved what you needed for retirement? Are you making more AT your job? Do you have a better chance to get a better job? Are you paying less at the pump?"

"It's still about the economy," Romney added, bluntly. "And we're not stupid."
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And, true to form, the administration that asked Americans to trust it to "turn things around", after almost 4 years, blames Bush:

President Obama's campaign accused Romney of distorting the facts and ignoring some of the problems that Obama inherited.

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Perhaps Obama should have just stuck with closing down Gitmo and stopping those ocean levels from rising. :lol:

 

[TSR]

Well with Romney using your views as well as others here on Rnet, Obama hasn't got a chance has he?? Its all over isn't it ?? How much money should I start betting??

 

[Faster horses]

He's losing a lot of his support. Case in point, Susan Serandon,
one of THE liberal movie stars is very upset at the Obama administration.

FoxNews.com

Susan Sarandon, almost as well-known for her liberal activism as she is for making movies, is claiming that she was recently denied a security clearance to visit the White House, and that the government has tapped her phone.

"We know we're under surveillance, I've had my phone tapped," Sarandon told the audience during a question and answer session at New York's Tribeca Film Festival. She also said she had twice seen a file the government holds on her by filing Freedom of Information requests.

 

[TSR]

This from Fox news???? Was she on Hannity when she made those comments??? Sorry, just quickly scanned your post.

 

[Whitewing]

Double post

 

[Whitewing]

Well with Romney using your views as well as others here on Rnet, Obama hasn't got a chance has he?? Its all over isn't it ?? How much money should I start betting??

I see you don't care to pen those numbers. That's okay, if I were an Obama supporter I'd rather not talk about them either. Perhaps then you can tell us why we should vote for him....what's he done that earns him an extra term?

Actually, I do believe it's all over for Obama. As much as the media beats the drum of how close the election will be, I don't believe that's going to be the case. Yeah, the country is pretty much divided as it's been for a couple of decades. The electoral votes will be close because regardless of who runs in certain states, the (D) or the (R) will almost always prevail.

But I see something in this election that I believe is dramatically different than the last for Obama. Enthusiasm.....or lack thereof now.

As a buddy of mine (he lives in the People's Republic of Minnesota) on another forum stated......."I've met a number of people who voted for Obama the last time but say they won't support him this time.....but I've not met a single voter who didn't vote for him last time who says they'll vote for him this time.

My personal opinion is that Obama will lose the moderates this go-round and it'll cost him the election. I think he's been one of the weakest presidents of my lifetime and I sincerely hope the voters show him the door. If not, I'm afraid to see what's coming in the next four years.

 

[TSR]

A simple question(perhaps too simplistic,but nevertheless) WWing out of the masses that will vote, how many will be against raising the taxes on the rich??? If the majority is against such a move, Obama will lose. If the majority is for such a move he will win. Again, simplistic, I know, but it will be a major point imo.

 

[Whitewing]

A simple question(perhaps too simplistic,but nevertheless) WWing out of the masses that will vote, how many will be against raising the taxes on the rich??? If the majority is against such a move, Obama will lose. If the majority is for such a move he will win. Again, simplistic, I know, but it will be a major point imo.

I have no idea how to answer your question because you've not defined "the rich". As many Americans have already learned, when Obama talks about "the rich", he's actually talking about them.

If Romney can convince the voters that what needs to be done is to cut the growth of government drastically because taxing "the rich" at 100% will hardly make a dent in the problem, then perhaps he'll win.

Romney to America: the wealth of the country is in the vast middle class, that's where the taxes will eventually have to come from unless government spending/growth is reigned in.

I think a better way to phrase your query might be something like this: if Obama is successful with his class warfare strategy, then he will win. If Americans see him for what he is, they'll toss his sorry rear out of office and not look back.

Still waiting for your thoughts on the misery index.....2008 versus 2012.

Like Bill Clinton said, it's the economy stupid.

 

[Tam]

A simple question(perhaps too simplistic,but nevertheless) WWing out of the masses that will vote, how many will be against raising the taxes on the rich??? If the majority is against such a move, Obama will lose. If the majority is for such a move he will win. Again, simplistic, I know, but it will be a major point imo.

Another day, another President Obama diss.

This time, former Saturday Night Live star Jon Lovitz is the culprit. He's made a career off of slapstick comedy, but the words he had for the president are no laughing matter. During an interview on the podcast The ABC's of SNL, the comedian attacked the commander in chief for his comments about the rich not paying their taxes. "This whole thing with Obama saying the rich don't pay their taxes is f---ing bullshit," he said. "And I voted for the guy, and I'm a Democrat. What a f---ing a--hole. The rich don't pay their taxes? Let me tell you something, right. First they say to you, you're dead broke, 'the United States of America, you can do anything you want, go for it.' So then you go for it and then you make it, and everyone's like 'f--k you.'"
Using Obama's story as an example to support his claim, Lovitz blasted the president for his stance. "He had no father. He was, you know, of mixed race which is a burden in the United States, don't kid yourself. Growing up like that, and no money, and the guy ends up being at Harvard. He's the President of the United States. And now he's like, f--k me!"

Lovitz' critiques are the latest in a slew of public figures who don't know how to choose their words wisely when it comes to the president. Aside from Michelle Bachman who used the term "tar baby" in regards to Obama's energy plan, musician Ted Nugent called him a "criminal." Lovitz is also not the only SNL cast member to disrespect the president, fellow alum Victoria Jackson is infamous for spewing hate towards the Obama, recently calling him a "communist."

Then you have this Obama 2008 supporter

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0YK7UGytvs8

and a big surprise was the TV interview that result in this article.

'I no longer hope for audacity': Matt Damon turns against Obama as President loses his celebrity friends
By Rachel Quigley
UPDATED: 22:49 GMT, 4 March 2011

Matt Damon joins growing list of celebrities who are turning their backs on the President
Adds Obama's policies on education to list of grievances

Others have criticised him over issues like gay rights and climate change

It appears the list of Barack Obama's celebrity friends is dwindling.
Actor Matt Damon - who was one of the President's earliest and best-known celebrity supporters during his 2008 campaign - said point blank that he was unhappy with the way the country is being run in an interview with Piers Morgan last night.

He also slammed the President for failing to follow through on many of his campaign promises, particularly on education.
During the interview on CNN, the actor talked about his feelings on the first two years of Mr Obama's administration, among other things.
When asked if he was happy about the way he is running the country, Damon, without hesitation, said 'no', continuing: 'I really think he misinterpreted his mandate. A friend of mine said to me the other day, which I thought was a great line, "I no longer hope for audacity".

Obama has alot of problems and wanting to hike taxes on the rich is just one of them. :roll: