littlejoe
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Silver said:Oldtimer said:Silver said:
You mean when right after the passage of NAFTA Canada declared that "ALL US CATTLE ARE DISEASED" and restricted US cattle from going north and started sending bullhauler after bullhauler south loaded down with "cheap" cattle (your dollar was worth about 50 cents) to wreck the US markets???
Did you folks ever think why R-CALF originated mostly in border states like MT, ID, WA, and the Dakotas ? Do you think it was because cattlemen in those states knew Canadians better and knew they were terrible folks, thought them evil , and wanted to do them harm :???: :roll: NO- it was because these border states saw all the one way cattle traffic.... All headed south.... And saw the damage it was doing to US cattle producers and the country as a whole....
I actually saw the perspective from 3 positions- Sheriff's Officer, Brand Inspector, and cattleman.... And like others in the state I saw truckload after truckload of cattle all headed south- and Trans X trucks parked lining the truckstops on their way back and forth hauling swinging Canadian beef south... We'd have to go get the drivers out of the Cafe because they would be interfering with traffic on the 4 Lane...
And I saw neighbors/acquaintances and their families in tears watching these trucks taking their livelihood away as we had to foreclose on them... Ranchers that lost their places partially brought about because of the wrecked prices... And as a brand inspector for 6-7 years after the NAFTA passage I saw MT cattle being allowed to be shipped all over the US with just a Vets health inspection- but I saw/inspected NONE going north (cattle that ran across the fenceline from the Canadian cattle)... I inspected hundreds of potloads of cattle being shipped out of state- but not a one went north from this area until about 2001 or 2002 when Jones, Vold, Jones bought some video auction cattle at a sale in Malta and I inspected about a dozen semi-loads...
And even tho MSU tested hundreds of cattle herds - NONE tested positive for the diseases the Canadians were claiming (Anaplas and Blue Tongue)-- but Canada kept up the ALL US CATTLE ARE DISEASED claim-- and much of the restrictions... Until during the BSE era when Canada had their teat in a wringer and was trying to get the border open to their cows going south- and all of a sudden WALLAH- magically the Canadian government decides your US cows really aren't as diseased as we thought and they finally dropped most of the restrictions, (10-12 years after having the border closed to US cattle :roll: )
Yep Silver- that does remind me of someone taking advantage of a bunch of smoke and mirror legal loopholes and using them to step all over their neighbors!!!!
And Silver-- you surely don't want all these DISEASED US CATTLE being comingled with your Canadian cattle as a North American herd- would you :???:
And you've never taken the time to question your gov't high dollar policy of the time that created these conditions????? Did Canada lower it's dollar to cheat you out of a livelihood?????
You keep spouting about the DISEASED US CATTLE that we wouldn't let in. I've given you plenty of chances to tell the whole truth. Once again you FAILED. They were allowed in during winter months and you know that. I've also stated on here in the past that I and most folks I know never agreed with that. I was taught 2 wrongs never make a right.
Do you believe Canada was sending those cattle down there? You never thought to wonder what the circumstances were that led to AMERICAN's importing all these cattle and thumbing there noses at you on the way by???????????
I was a member of the cattlemen's ash. when we voted down the proposal to shut down the port to US cattle in BC which is the only life line to Hawaiian ranchers. Our feeling was that the American cattleman was not who we were after.
You never mention that it was your governments strong dollar policy combined with NAFTA that destroyed our packing industry and turned us into merely a supplier of "cheap beef" for the giant US conglomerates.
So don't keep dragging up these half truths and fashioning them into a "poor me" story, you see it how you like but I'm not buying your BS. You are a self centered fool and that's not going to change by me pointing it out to you, so I'm done. Have a great night.
"You never mention that it was your governments strong dollar policy combined with NAFTA that destroyed our packing industry and turned us into merely a supplier of "cheap beef" for the giant US conglomerates. "
So Silver--you a fan of Lonesome Dove? I love that show. 'member when that Mexican cook said Abraham Lincoln freed the slaves---and Pea chimed in and said 'wull, he dint free no mesicans..." and ol' Gus commented " Pea--you're a little outa your depth"?
Well, Silver---you're a tad outa your depth. Canada is a resource country--and does a far better job of developing them than u.s. does---on grass roots financing level--as an example-- flo thrus are brilliant---and right on down the line. Quite neighborhoods in LLoyd are home to people who have patents being used in heavy oil in Columbia. 60% of worlds mining geo's call van home. Canadian oilpatch has set n American standards for yrs.
Canada is an exporting country---as such, do you really believe the fact that their currency has traditionally traded at a discount to their main trading partner is a scenario engineered by that partner??!! The short version: Canada has kept their dollar low--deliberately--to facilitate exports.
ps---China (that's a heap big country thataway) does the same thing.