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Bulls

Thanks, I appreciate the comments.

If anyone wants a full sheet on the bulls just PM me with your e-mail or mailing address if you want a hard copy.
 
What will those bulls weigh mature Doug?

It could be the photos or my novice eye but they look leggier than other vintages you have posted.
You have them in just right condition for the job.
 
6002 will weigh a lot, I would guess well over 2200, but from word back from my customers I would guess that most of my bulls mature from 1900-2200.

I do know that some of my customers rough them pretty hard after they use them, so this year I am offering a re-wintering program on yearlings. This is the paragraph I put in my catalogue.


All of these bulls are fully guaranteed for the first breeding season. I also am pleased to announce that I have started a re-wintering program for the yearling bulls. The way it works is you bring me the yearlings back in the fall after you have used them and I will winter them and return them to you in late April or May. These bulls will be insured for any calamity resulting in death or getting crippled bad enough for the need to be put down. This will be a free service for all bulls bringing over $3500 and only $2.00 per day on bulls bringing less. The insurance policy will also be good for a full year, so they will be insured during the next breeding season.
 
That's what I call customer service! :D It's good to know there are good folks who give a rip about how they can look out for people who choose to spend money at their operation. Even if a guy doesn't need the wintering option, it's a good option to have. Hope they sell well for you! :D
 
They look good Doug, do you still have our address? Have you got your new bulls yet? We love our 3113 daughters. Who are your new bulls mothers?
 
Thanks H, it is good to know someone doesn't think I am crazy.

I still have your address Nicky. The hard copy should be sent out this weekend or early next week. I do not have my Cooper bull. I bought a bull at Jamison's out of 555 and the same cow that raised Ken's "Homer" bull. My Cooper bull is out of the 200 cow,the mother to the 475 cow that they have flushed like crazy. Add them 2 to Ken's 847 bull and his 936 bull and I have this great problem of trying to pick cows for 4 great bulls.
 
leanin' H said:
That's what I call customer service! :D It's good to know there are good folks who give a rip about how they can look out for people who choose to spend money at their operation. Even if a guy doesn't need the wintering option, it's a good option to have. Hope they sell well for you! :D
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Ditto! I'd say your wintering option is very innovative. I've never heard of something like that being offered by any seedstock breeder anywhere.

I used to insure bulls just because Dad did. I think the only thing they were actually insured against was death by an accidental cause like lightning. They weren't covered for being incapacitated by broken equipment, foot rot, or any other sickness or death from natural causes.

Never had a claim on the insurance, so I finally quit carrying it and have never had a bull die on the place since. Knock on wood!
 
I fully gaurantee them for the first breeding season on my own risk, which is what it implies, fully gauranteed.

The policy that I will buy on them if they enter into my re-wintering program covers death, but not broken equipment, but the death policy does cover a broken leg resulting in them being a downer and as such, unsellable and needing to be put down. As far as I can tell, it will cover the full purchase price and be paid in cash so they can use the money as they see fit, not just at my sale.
 
Doug, I admit I am biased but I can't say I've ever had a Hereford bull with a "broken equipment" problem. IMO, that's a black bull thing! :twisted: Mostly caused by 2 or more bulls fighting over the same cow.

I might start something here by saying this out loud. :oops: I do think it is one advantage of the Hereford breed that definitely exists but is very seldom talked about.

Black bulls are fighters. :twisted: Herefords are lovers. :wink: IMO, there should be some kind of EPD for this. :lol: :wink:
 
John SD said:
Doug, I admit I am biased but I can't say I've ever had a Hereford bull with a "broken equipment" problem. IMO, that's a black bull thing! :twisted: Mostly caused by 2 or more bulls fighting over the same cow.

I might start something here by saying this out loud. :oops: I do think it is one advantage of the Hereford breed that definitely exists but is very seldom talked about.

Black bulls are fighters. :twisted: Herefords are lovers. :wink: IMO, there should be some kind of EPD for this. :lol: :wink:
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I've watched Hereford bulls fighting clear a bulldozer trail through the cedars. So not all of them are only lovers! :wink:
 
leanin' H said:
John SD said:
Doug, I admit I am biased but I can't say I've ever had a Hereford bull with a "broken equipment" problem. IMO, that's a black bull thing! :twisted: Mostly caused by 2 or more bulls fighting over the same cow.

I might start something here by saying this out loud. :oops: I do think it is one advantage of the Hereford breed that definitely exists but is very seldom talked about.

Black bulls are fighters. :twisted: Herefords are lovers. :wink: IMO, there should be some kind of EPD for this. :lol: :wink:
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I've watched Hereford bulls fighting clear a bulldozer trail through the cedars. So not all of them are only lovers! :wink:
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Yep, my friend ended up figure-eighting a chain around their horns... that ended the fighting :wink: .
 
Doug Thorson said:
6002 will weigh a lot, I would guess well over 2200, but from word back from my customers I would guess that most of my bulls mature from 1900-2200.

I do know that some of my customers rough them pretty hard after they use them, so this year I am offering a re-wintering program on yearlings. This is the paragraph I put in my catalogue.


All of these bulls are fully guaranteed for the first breeding season. I also am pleased to announce that I have started a re-wintering program for the yearling bulls. The way it works is you bring me the yearlings back in the fall after you have used them and I will winter them and return them to you in late April or May. These bulls will be insured for any calamity resulting in death or getting crippled bad enough for the need to be put down. This will be a free service for all bulls bringing over $3500 and only $2.00 per day on bulls bringing less. The insurance policy will also be good for a full year, so they will be insured during the next breeding season.
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I would say that is going beyond the call of duty but I know what you mean about wintering yearlings. The last thing you want as a breeder is to have a good bull turned in with the bull battery as a worn out yearling for the winter and having the new owner show everyone your poor doing bull.
I market a few bulls for a close friend and have gone to look at a few "replacement requests" after bulls have been used for a summer. One fellow claimed a $4000 Hereford had genetically bad teeth and wasn't gaining any weight. I am not a vet but it doesn't take a rocket scientist to see a healing puncture wound and 2 broken teeth where a horn went through. Advised taking to a vet for second opinion, no insurance, lost customer.

If those young bulls grow into the old guy they will do just fine. See some up here that come in the ring a thin 5 or 6 year old and weigh 2600 lbs. Those are the wrong cattle regardless of colour.

Good luck with your sale.
 
The guy I insured my herd bull with said they used to cover broken penis but they had so many claims from Angus bull owners they had to quit covering it. His words, not mine.
 
I'll admit to being one who doesn't give bulls the best treatment. I usually only buy a bull or two a year so where does one winter a yearling seperate? With the tough market in Canada lately its been fairly easy to find good two's to buy, at least they're mostly grown. I don't mind them a little thin in spring as they have a few months of good grass to flesh up on before I'll use them.
All that said I wish I was 8 or 900 miles closer as I'd sure take you up on your program Doug.
 

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