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Calgary Stampede

It seems that the broadcasters don't even class Rodeo and Wagon racing as sports events.............altho they can sure cover a half dozen treehuggers demonstrating against the heartless exploitation of animals that Rodeo presents! :mad: :mad: :mad: OLN musta got a real deal on the tour de france.............been showing nothing but for 2 weeks.......a 2 second sports clip would cover all anyone ever needed to know about that event! :? :?
 
Name one that's bigger-that was sooooo Texas Jersey lol. Where else do you ride for a 100,000 plus day money with no entry fee-no where on this planet. Even the AMERICAN cowboys agree Calgary is the one the rest are measured against. I jusy knew one of the you all's would take the bait lol. It's fun watching what happens when they get on real bucking horses not them little desertt ponies lol. Just kidding.
 
Northern Rancher said:
Where else do you ride for a 100,000 plus day money with no entry fee-no where on this planet.
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And none of the winnings count toward the championship title races....
 
The money still spends OT-the money still spends-just accept the fact that it's the 'Greatest Show on Earth' and be done with it. Wait and see you'll see alopt more rodeos going to that format-I guess 'Ol Cimmaron' didn't get any worse of a screwing than Roddy Hay gets at the NFR-one thing they haven't figured out yet is how to hook Rod Warren out of winning the average.
 
Oldtimer:

You wouldnt know a good rodeo if ya seen one. Heard from one of your former neighbors that you were a poor rough stock rider in your day but I guess I have to give you some credit you tried but failed. :wink:
 
I will agree that Calgary is one of the top rodeos in the world... I'm not sure the format they have gone to will make them better- altho I realize there is a movement to set up this format for many of the top rodeos...If the PBR corporation gets their way and is able to buy many of these rodeos/ or take over PRCA, you will see it being the format again pushed...

But I'm afraid that will be the death of many of the smaller one and two day shows and PRCA approved fair type rodeos....

And you still have to have a minor league out their operating to have these major league competitors- and the limiting of who and where they can compete will/has killed many of these small shows... These little shows have been the backbone of the PRCA- but it is cheaper and more profitable for the committees to avoid all the National PRCA commercial wrangling/sponsor requirements and go with one of the "amateur" associations....
 
Northern Rancher said:
I think all of us agree up here agree Cimmaron Gerke got jobbed on Sunday-I bet 86.5 is the lowest anybody has scored on 'Grated Coconut'. You had to love june holman coming within a whisker of winning a 100,000 at 63 years old but was nice to see Jolene Seitz with the bareels for Calgary. In the long go Sunday Billy Etbauer, Dan Mortenson and Glenn O'Neill all bucked off-kind of tells you the quality of Saddle Broncs up here. Mo Forbes didn't even warm up 'Cool Alley' in the 100,000 dollar round. I think we'll see alot more rodeos going to the Calgary tournament format-there were guys from the big U'S shows up checking it out. Sure alot easier on the cowboys and great for the fans-tough on the next tier of rodeo hands though. Was pretty cool watching Cody Wright's family up on stage with him when he got his cheque-soime future bronc riders coming up there I bet.
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IMO Rod Hay got robbed in SB.
I thought Davy Jr. had the best ride in BB and deserved 1st place over Cimmaron.
I wasnt routing for June. She has probable the best horse there but just because she can buy the best horse im not going to route for her.
Who is June anyway? Did she train that horse? I honestly dont know but I never heard tell of her until last year.
Im thinking there was a lot of talented horses this year in the barrel racing. The horsemanship and the talent of those barrel horses are really improving. Sometimes the pretty runs<perfect runs> are not the fastest and dont win but the majority of the top runs were pretty perfect this year.
It just amazes me how good some of them can turn and burn in the mud. Takes a heck of a horse to do that. Im thinking the training methods are improving in that sport?
Northern I watched Dan Mortenson get bucked off the easiest sweetest little horse that you ever did see over at a small rodeo in Stavley this spring. I couldnt believe it!
Actually there were quite a few big names there at this little rodeo in the SB and they all got bucked off. Some local <AB> kid that I never heard of won in the saddle bronc.
At Stavely in the BB one guy drew a mare that started peeing when she came out of the chute. The guy riding her got soaked! :lol:
 
Oldtimer said:
I will agree that Calgary is one of the top rodeos in the world... I'm not sure the format they have gone to will make them better- altho I realize there is a movement to set up this format for many of the top rodeos...If the PBR corporation gets their way and is able to buy many of these rodeos/ or take over PRCA, you will see it being the format again pushed...

But I'm afraid that will be the death of many of the smaller one and two day shows and PRCA approved fair type rodeos....

And you still have to have a minor league out their operating to have these major league competitors- and the limiting of who and where they can compete will/has killed many of these small shows... These little shows have been the backbone of the PRCA- but it is cheaper and more profitable for the committees to avoid all the National PRCA commercial wrangling/sponsor requirements and go with one of the "amateur" associations....
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About the format
Kelly Sutherland had the fastest aggregate time after 8 nights of racing but that only earned him a place in the final race. Then he drew a slow barrel and only finished third which gave him third place money. Im not sure if I like that.
Maybe the most money earned over the 9 day rodeo is the winner and this would prevent flukes? Well not flukes but it might insure the top guy wins?
 
I think anyone in the top four after 9 days of racing has a fair shot at the pot, same as the other events come down to a showdown. Maybe the best time though could pick their barrel, at least give them an advantage.
 
I'll never feel sorry for Kelly Sutherland lol. As for June Hollman any 63 year old who still gets out and competes deserves my respect-you can buy the best horse in the world but you still have to ride it. Davey had a better spur ride on an easier horse-I thought Gerke was better than 86.5 for sure-Will Lowe had a good ride too.
 
Northern Rancher said:
As for June Hollman any 63 year old who still gets out and competes deserves my respect-you can buy the best horse in the world but you still have to ride it. quote]

Well yes but a barrel horse is different than a dressage or reining horse. With a top barrel horse you can just be a passenger. Example everytime you have to guide or correct a barrel horse it slows down the run. The top barrel horses are automatics. A great horse like Junes anybody could ride.
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I beg your pardon, there Roper AB.

Our good friend trains barrel horses in Aubrey, Texas.
He knows many of the top barrel racers. He speaks of Sherri
Cervi who used to ride two horses. Troubles and Hawk, a grey
and a bay. Dave gives Sherri lots of credit, because he says
those two horses were incredibly different to ride. Lots of girls
have their hands full riding one, and she successfully rode two that were
totally different.

I'd agree with you in that someone who wasn't pro could get on the
horses and perhaps make a run, but to make a qualifying run at
pro level, believe me, those ladies are not PASSENGERS.

In high school rodeo, our daughter had a horse fall with her on the second barrel. She felt him go and was stepping off, when he tried to catch his balance. He started to regain his footing when she had turned loose of every thing but the saddle horn. He flung her out there as far as her arm would allow, breaking her collarbone before she ever hit the ground. The horse went on and finished turning that barrel, ran to the third barrel, turned it and ran home. Was it a winning time? Hardly.But
he was programmed to turn three barrels with or without a passenger. I use this just to make a point.

There is a lot going on with those girls that you just aren't aware of.
Don't mean to contradict you, but really they aren't passengers at that
level of competition. I really enjoy almost all of your posts on here.

Have a great day!
 
FH im glad you called me on this because if your misunderstanding me then others probable are to.
My point was that I strongly suspect that if June Hollman had to trade horses with of Sherri Cervi and ride Troubles and Hawk. June would probable not do near as well. If your daughter was riding a top horse like June is I bet your daughter could do as well as June has done. At the least im sure your daughter could do much better than she is doing right now because I doubt she is currently riding the same caliber of horse that June is riding.
I wasnt putting barrel horses down or barrel riders. Even though im a guy and I cant barrel race, barrel racing is one of my favorite events to watch.
What I meant was a top horse say like Junes or Jill Bishops or even Leslie Slochers <spelling>barrel horse (Awesome) that died last year. These horses are so perfectly trained that they could run the pattern with no rider.
You watch some of these horses like Chic, they rate the barrel by themselves. The rider really isnt influencing the horse much. These horses are so well trained that the main thing some of these riders have to do is just stay out of the horses way. They turn those barrels perfect<no dropped shoulder!>, they are shaped perfect for the turn and make the FLC without the rider gathering them up and shapeing them for the FLC.
If a rider has to use the reins on a run it will slow the run down. Now we are only talking one hundreths of a second here!
Like I said in my other post the training and quality of the barrel horses and the horsemanship of these girls seem to be getting better every year. This year at the stampede I was extra impressed with the girls that where there because I know a lot of them are training there own barrel horses.
 
"There is a lot going on with those girls that you just aren't aware of. "

Im not a barrel racer so no doubt your right. Just that im under the impression that June hasnt paid her dues. Im always cheering for the girls that I know have paid their dues and are working hard to win.
I dont like these non pros who buy there way to the top. Yah see it even at the local level in cutting and reined cow horse all the time.
 
The best example I can give you is a 65 YO grandmother in Victoria by the name of Marilyn Copland who is recovering from almost dieing of cancer. She hadnt rode a horse since she was 10 years old. Despite osteoporosis she wanted to get into Reining.
She hired trainers Tom and Tracy Wilkenson and Doug Mills. She bought an expensive reiner horse and was coached steady for SIX months in their private indoor arena.
Then she won the WCRA Rockslide!!!!!!
 
Roper do you know Tim Hanlin-I've been riding witrh him on this A'I job for last ten days-he used to do the cutting horse deal in Alberta-he's a good hand with stock and a great guy-lots of fun with this A'I crew. Were over 500 now.
 
Northern Rancher said:
Roper do you know Tim Hanlin-I've been riding witrh him on this A'I job for last ten days-he used to do the cutting horse deal in Alberta-he's a good hand with stock and a great guy-lots of fun with this A'I crew. Were over 500 now.
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No I dont know him. Glad your making friends and having fun. :)
 

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