Canada May Have Another Post Feedban Positive

[Anonymous]

Canada's possible 5th case of BSE has been identified in British Columbia. A 6 year old dairy cow, born and raised in the Fraser Valley, has tested positive in rapid tests - hence the "likely" designation. The conclusive test will be finalized on Sunday.

CFIA does not anticipate this will disrupt trade with the US or Japan where trade has resumed for animals less than 20 months of age.

Investigation continues regarding potential source. Although the case is the third post-feed-ban case (SRM's banned in 1997), the investigation will pursue all possible sources of contamination including feed.

A news release will be issued by CFIA at noon.

 

[Bill]

This case, if positive, has no bearing on the safety of Canadian beef. Canada has a suite of internationally recognized safeguards that work together to provide high levels of human and animal health protection. Tissues where BSE is known to concentrate in infected animals are removed from all cattle slaughtered in Canada for domestic and international human consumption. In addition, Canada's safeguards prevent the entry of potentially harmful imports, test cattle most at risk of having BSE and limit the potential spread of the disease through feed.

Little will change. We will have more cases as will the US but neither have a significant problem regardless of how you R-Calfers spin it.

 

[Econ101]

This case, if positive, has no bearing on the safety of Canadian beef. Canada has a suite of internationally recognized safeguards that work together to provide high levels of human and animal health protection. Tissues where BSE is known to concentrate in infected animals are removed from all cattle slaughtered in Canada for domestic and international human consumption. In addition, Canada's safeguards prevent the entry of potentially harmful imports, test cattle most at risk of having BSE and limit the potential spread of the disease through feed.

Little will change. We will have more cases as will the US but neither have a significant problem regardless of how you R-Calfers spin it.

It doesn't matter what you think, Bill. It matters what the customer thinks.

We are still not in Japan.

 

[Bill]

This case, if positive, has no bearing on the safety of Canadian beef. Canada has a suite of internationally recognized safeguards that work together to provide high levels of human and animal health protection. Tissues where BSE is known to concentrate in infected animals are removed from all cattle slaughtered in Canada for domestic and international human consumption. In addition, Canada's safeguards prevent the entry of potentially harmful imports, test cattle most at risk of having BSE and limit the potential spread of the disease through feed.

Little will change. We will have more cases as will the US but neither have a significant problem regardless of how you R-Calfers spin it.

It doesn't matter what you think, Bill. It matters what the customer thinks.

We are still not in Japan.

We are.

 

[Anonymous]

This case, if positive, has no bearing on the safety of Canadian beef. Canada has a suite of internationally recognized safeguards that work together to provide high levels of human and animal health protection. Tissues where BSE is known to concentrate in infected animals are removed from all cattle slaughtered in Canada for domestic and international human consumption. In addition, Canada's safeguards prevent the entry of potentially harmful imports, test cattle most at risk of having BSE and limit the potential spread of the disease through feed.

Little will change. We will have more cases as will the US but neither have a significant problem regardless of how you R-Calfers spin it.

Sure supports what R-CALF was saying about Canada's feedban having huge holes in it :wink:

Both countries need to get off their Packer controlled duffs and close all the loopholes in the feedban on both sides of the border......Put into effect the safeguards that were originally proposed, but then never instituted because of lobbying pressures.....

 

[Bill]

This case, if positive, has no bearing on the safety of Canadian beef. Canada has a suite of internationally recognized safeguards that work together to provide high levels of human and animal health protection. Tissues where BSE is known to concentrate in infected animals are removed from all cattle slaughtered in Canada for domestic and international human consumption. In addition, Canada's safeguards prevent the entry of potentially harmful imports, test cattle most at risk of having BSE and limit the potential spread of the disease through feed.

Little will change. We will have more cases as will the US but neither have a significant problem regardless of how you R-Calfers spin it.

Sure supports what R-CALF was saying about Canada's feedban having huge holes in it :wink:

Both countries need to get off their Packer controlled duffs and close all the loopholes in the feedban on both sides of the border......Put into effect the safeguards that were originally proposed, but then never instituted because of lobbying pressures.....

Won't be long and you will have your own post-feed ban cases to crow about. :roll: Only a fool would believe it won't happen.

The short sightedness of R-Calf and its supporters is unbelievable. :lol: :lol:

 

[feeder]

I don't believe OT is being shortsighted. He posted both countries need to close the loopholes and start enforcing what they stated they would or should.

 

[Brad S]

OT what sort of feedban loophole problems exist on either side of the border?

 

[Manitoba_Rancher]

Why were animal proteins fed back to cattle in the first place? we all know that they can make feeds higher in protein content by using other grains. Makes you really wonder who is controlling North America

 

[Bill]

I don't believe OT is being shortsighted. He posted both countries need to close the loopholes and start enforcing what they stated they would or should.

Must have missed this part huh?

Sure supports what R-CALF was saying about Canada's feedban having huge holes in it

:roll:

 

[Sandhusker]

I don't believe OT is being shortsighted. He posted both countries need to close the loopholes and start enforcing what they stated they would or should.

Must have missed this part huh?

Sure supports what R-CALF was saying about Canada's feedban having huge holes in it

:roll:

Bill, how can you explain 3 post-ban cows if there are no loop-holes? You've either got a hole problem or a compliance problem. Which is it?

 

[Bill]

I don't believe OT is being shortsighted. He posted both countries need to close the loopholes and start enforcing what they stated they would or should.

Must have missed this part huh?

Sure supports what R-CALF was saying about Canada's feedban having huge holes in it

:roll:

Bill, how can you explain 3 post-ban cows if there are no loop-holes? You've either got a hole problem or a compliance problem. Which is it?

Waiting for OT to answer Brad S question. Sure wouldn't want to let him off the hook on that or perhaps you care to answer Sandhusker. Do a comparison between the two countries for us and tell us where the problem is different in Canada than the US. :lol: :lol:

 

[Sandhusker]

Must have missed this part huh?



:roll:

Bill, how can you explain 3 post-ban cows if there are no loop-holes? You've either got a hole problem or a compliance problem. Which is it?

Waiting for OT to answer Brad S question. Sure wouldn't want to let him off the hook on that or perhaps you care to answer Sandhusker. Do a comparison between the two countries for us and tell us where the problem is different in Canada than the US. :lol: :lol:

Divide the number of cattle by the number of occurances for both countries and compare the number, Bill.

Now, is it a loophole problem or a compliance problem?

 

[Bill]

Bill, how can you explain 3 post-ban cows if there are no loop-holes? You've either got a hole problem or a compliance problem. Which is it?

Waiting for OT to answer Brad S question. Sure wouldn't want to let him off the hook on that or perhaps you care to answer Sandhusker. Do a comparison between the two countries for us and tell us where the problem is different in Canada than the US. :lol: :lol:

Divide the number of cattle by the number of occurances for both countries and compare the number, Bill.

Now, is it a loophole problem or a compliance problem?

Number of REPORTED occurances or can we somehow factor in the ones covered up in the US as well? Phyllis showed there was at least one. Canada has been transparent as glass through all our cases and it has been to our benefit, eg. Japan is taking Canadian beef and not American. Canadian packing capacity is steadily increasing so this has been a big break for us. The more R-Calf kicks dust the at USDA and keeps playing whatever BSE card they can find the longer it takes for markets to re-open to American product. Shortsighted? :lol: :lol: :lol:

The thing R-Calfers haven't learned has to do with glass houses. You ought not keep throwing stones. Like I said above, only a fool would believe the US won't have some post-feed ban cases as well. We will see the protectionists in Billings do a different dance then.

 

[Sandhusker]

Loophole or compliance, Bill?

 

[feeder]

Bill, I thought you were refering to OT in that first post. Sorry. But to your last post about glass houses. Some in Canada feel they are so transparent. Well your packers are the same as ours. Your gov't is making rules similiar to our USDA policy. Why are your policies so much better than ours? I for one, do not want to be responsible for closing my eyes to what could happen down the road to our consumers' health. If we have to fight the powers to be to get sane and justified rules enforced then so be it. If I have to do it through R-Calf then I will. The worst thing to do is do nothing. I believe we will have a post feed ban positive some day cuz all the holes aren't plugged.

 

[Bill]

Bill, I thought you were refering to OT in that first post. Sorry. But to your last post about glass houses. Some in Canada feel they are so transparent. Well your packers are the same as ours. Your gov't is making rules similiar to our USDA policy. Why are your policies so much better than ours? I for one, do not want to be responsible for closing my eyes to what could happen down the road to our consumers' health. If we have to fight the powers to be to get sane and justified rules enforced then so be it. If I have to do it through R-Calf then I will. The worst thing to do is do nothing. I believe we will have a post feed ban positive some day cuz all the holes aren't plugged.

And it's impossible to plug all the holes until a complete ban is in place in both countries on placing rendered animals in any type of feed. Feed gets hung up in bins, bags of old feed are thrown in a mix-mill, calves walked around small farms and ate out of chicken feeders or dog dishes, the wrong chute is opened at the feed plant. It's happened in both countries.

What many take exception to is R-Calf and its supporters jumping on every opportunity to smear Canada with no thought of what will happen tomorrow, next week or next year. Live for the moment and hope for the best is not sound policy making. If you want to support an organization who believes in that approach, it's your money, but also expect other producers who don't buy into their game to hold them to task.

The good thing is that very few seem to be listening to the babble from Billings.

 

[Sandhusker]

Bill, "The good thing is that very few seem to be listening to the babble from Billings."

Speaking of babbling...... do you have a loophole problem up there or a compliance problem?

 

[Big Muddy rancher]

I do know we are testing on farm at levels that excede the requirements.

The US won't find them if they aren't looking. Canada is looking and doing the proper tests. Also we are keeping our tradeing partners informed.

 

[feeder]

As I said before, our local rendering plant has to test all cattle they pick up from the farms. So they are testing our dead also, the farmers just haven't got paid for them to test.