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Cattle dogs

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Mine is an Australian Shepherd. He's just now getting interested in the cattle and wanting to understand directions. If I let him on his own, he'll just run through the
neighbors herd like a rocket spreading them all over the place.
It will take some time and patience but I think he's gonna
make a good cow dog.[/img]
 
as to what Dylan said about excuses for not spending time with your dog. So true!! I am training a dog right now that is 22 months old who didn't have any time spent with him. Didn't have any real basic comands, he would come if he wants etc. We are in the 5th week now of training and progress is good except because he has never learned to listen or hear any thing, training which should be just about over isn't, i find every few days i have to go back to the basics of remind him that he is working for me. So when he goes home if he isn't used much, i don't expect he will be all that usefull in very little time, i should note this dog is out of my working dogs and has piles of potential, if he gets used.
 
Hey, good job Bootheel!

TT, you have more fortitude than I do. I just couldn't bring myself to get a dog working and then send them home to deteriorate, ecspecially if the dog showed good potential. :)
 
I'am wondering if Gomez still wants a dog after all. I hope so they are a great help and companion. And you don't have to use em all the time for a dog to be a great helper. And if you yell at them in the corral, they don't go to the house, they never stay out late and you can't get em out of bed in the morning, never to many questions when you're not in a talkative mood etc etc.
 
jodywy said:
took a young dog to a Jack Knotts clinic he said "if you have time to watch tv you got time to train a dog"
his thing was to just 15 mintues a day in a round pen with a few ewes or calves let the dog work then add comands after it doing it right, if it just chasing you stop pinch it ears a little then you move the dog moves the ewes move, till the dog gets it right.
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I went to every clinic I could - some times I learned What to Do and often learned What Not to Do (sometimes that's more Help to your education)

I used Sheep and Ducks (in a Small Area) and worked up to Cattle
http://imageevent.com/v_key/trainingworkingdogs
 
Dylan Biggs said:
jodywy said:
took a young dog to a Jack Knotts clinic he said "if you have time to watch tv you got time to train a dog"
his thing was to just 15 mintues a day in a round pen with a few ewes or calves let the dog work then add comands after it doing it right, if it just chasing you stop pinch it ears a little then you move the dog moves the ewes move, till the dog gets it right.
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jodywy, 15 minutes a day is good for starting a young dog, it is the daily part that a lot of people have difficulty with. The thing with a young dog is the routine and the consistency to get that good foundation established.
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I find once a dog has a good start and control, you can use every day stuff to set things up for the dog to do. For example, during winter feeding, I like to send a younger dog out to gather the cows, which are already going to come in to feed. This seems to give the dog a lot of confidence, and is an easy way to work the dog daily. Also, the cattle get used to a new dog, and have a positive reward.

I'm by no means a dog trainer, but I seem to muddle through :D . I got my new pup last weekend, and am excited to see his potential.
 
turkey track said:
I'am wondering if Gomez still wants a dog after all. I hope so they are a great help and companion. And you don't have to use em all the time for a dog to be a great helper. And if you yell at them in the corral, they don't go to the house, they never stay out late and you can't get em out of bed in the morning, never to many questions when you're not in a talkative mood etc etc.
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:D :D :D
 
WyomingRancher said:
Dylan Biggs said:
jodywy said:
took a young dog to a Jack Knotts clinic he said "if you have time to watch tv you got time to train a dog"
his thing was to just 15 mintues a day in a round pen with a few ewes or calves let the dog work then add comands after it doing it right, if it just chasing you stop pinch it ears a little then you move the dog moves the ewes move, till the dog gets it right.
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jodywy, 15 minutes a day is good for starting a young dog, it is the daily part that a lot of people have difficulty with. The thing with a young dog is the routine and the consistency to get that good foundation established.
Click to expand...

I find once a dog has a good start and control, you can use every day stuff to set things up for the dog to do. For example, during winter feeding, I like to send a younger dog out to gather the cows, which are already going to come in to feed. This seems to give the dog a lot of confidence, and is an easy way to work the dog daily. Also, the cattle get used to a new dog, and have a positive reward.

I'm by no means a dog trainer, but I seem to muddle through :D . I got my new pup last weekend, and am excited to see his potential.
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Perfect WR,that is the best kind of "training", most "training " is just a matter of taking exactly those kind of oppotunities to include your dog in your daily routine assuming a few essential fundementals are in place. With a young pup I will purposely set up a simple move from one pen to the next for water or a bit of cake or whatever just to have that consistent routine. For most of these working dogs with intelligence and instinct it is just a short time before nothing even needs to be said. :D :D
 
Dylan Biggs said:
WyomingRancher said:
Dylan Biggs said:
jodywy, 15 minutes a day is good for starting a young dog, it is the daily part that a lot of people have difficulty with. The thing with a young dog is the routine and the consistency to get that good foundation established.
Click to expand...

I find once a dog has a good start and control, you can use every day stuff to set things up for the dog to do. For example, during winter feeding, I like to send a younger dog out to gather the cows, which are already going to come in to feed. This seems to give the dog a lot of confidence, and is an easy way to work the dog daily. Also, the cattle get used to a new dog, and have a positive reward.

I'm by no means a dog trainer, but I seem to muddle through :D . I got my new pup last weekend, and am excited to see his potential.
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Perfect WR,that is the best kind of "training", most "training " is just a matter of taking exactly those kind of oppotunities to include your dog in your daily routine assuming a few essential fundementals are in place. With a young pup I will purposely set up a simple move from one pen to the next for water or a bit of cake or whatever just to have that consistent routine. For most of these working dogs with intelligence and instinct it is just a short time before nothing even needs to be said. :D :D
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Your right when you say "nothing even needs to be said" just turn your back and they are off to put the calves in for the night even if it is just noon. :D
 
This is the comment you made that seems hardest for most people to understand. I'm not a good trainer but if I have a dog that wants to learn I can usually muddle through.

"I let the new dog pick their own Direction and give it the "Command" that fits what that dog is doing."

Once the dog figures out it is doing what you want ( and they do ) it gives them such a confidence boost and they just keep trying to please.
 
George said:
This is the comment you made that seems hardest for most people to understand. I'm not a good trainer but if I have a dog that wants to learn I can usually muddle through.


"I let the new dog pick their own Direction and give it the "Command" that fits what that dog is doing.

Once the dog figures out it is doing what you want ( and they do ) it gives them such a confidence boost and they just keep trying to please.
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Well said!
 
Thank you all. Very helpful advise and thoughts. I will get out what i put in.
:D

WY - how about Zeke? Great looking dog and looks like a bit of a character too.
 
George is right on the money in my books, you can let them start at a young age, i have a pup at 6 months right now and thats what i'm doing and probably could have even played more earliar. love that instinct in working dogs.
 

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