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You know, SH, my 6 year old boy stays on track better than you, and he's autistic.

Getting back to my original question, "Do manufacturers do what they can to pay the lowest amount for their raw materials, inputs, etc... regardless of margins, profits, whatever or not?"

You said "No, sometimes they increase the price of their end product and pay more for the raw materials." Which is wrong. For ANY company, lowering input costs is ALWAYS preferential to raising prices.

SH, "The conclusion that anyone but a flaming idiot would reach would be that packers sometimes have to raise the price of their raw materials in order to get them bought."

Nice straw-man effort there, but you're treed on that one as well. Yes, sometimes the cost of raw materials forces companies to cut a bigger check, but you know as well as I that before doing so, they try to figure out a way not to.

Any more comments, Woody?


I used to think you were a master BSer, but to have a master's title, you must be somewhat believable.
 
Sandman: "Getting back to my original question, "Do manufacturers do what they can to pay the lowest amount for their raw materials, inputs, etc... regardless of margins, profits, whatever or not?"

You said "No, sometimes they increase the price of their end product and pay more for the raw materials." Which is wrong. For ANY company, lowering input costs is ALWAYS preferential to raising prices."

Sandman,

You are absolutely wrong on this. Lowering input costs is not "ALWAYS" preferential to raising prices.

Some companies refuse to sacrifice the quality of their product for cheaper raw materials. That's a cold hard fact.

Look no further than John Deere. They refuse to sacrifice the quality of their parts so they raise the price on their final product instead.

Many times lowering input costs is preferential, such as Walmart, but not in the case of every company as you have stated.

As always, you are the one who is treed!

You can divert around it and wiggle down your hole but you can't argue that with any integrity.

Do you think Harley Davidson tries to reduce the quality of their raw materials as opposed to increasing the price of their product?

Harley Davidson competes with Japanese motorcycles based on the "CURRENT" QUALITY of their product, not on price! They have a waiting list.

Wasn't always that way as evidenced by the "I'd rather push my Harley than ride a rice burner" T-shirts of years gone by.

I could afford a rice burner (750F Honda) and I knew those Haleys couldn't catch me so I left them spinning in the highway on many occasions. LOL!



~SH~
 
~SH~ said:
Sandman: "Getting back to my original question, "Do manufacturers do what they can to pay the lowest amount for their raw materials, inputs, etc... regardless of margins, profits, whatever or not?"

You said "No, sometimes they increase the price of their end product and pay more for the raw materials." Which is wrong. For ANY company, lowering input costs is ALWAYS preferential to raising prices."

Sandman,

You are absolutely wrong on this. Lowering input costs is not "ALWAYS" preferential to raising prices.

Some companies refuse to sacrifice the quality of their product for cheaper raw materials. That's a cold hard fact.

Look no further than John Deere. They refuse to sacrifice the quality of their parts so they raise the price on their final product instead.

Many times lowering input costs is preferential, such as Walmart, but not in the case of every company as you have stated.

As always, you are the one who is treed!

You can divert around it and wiggle down your hole but you can't argue that with any integrity.

Do you think Harley Davidson tries to reduce the quality of their raw materials as opposed to increasing the price of their product?

Harley Davidson competes with Japanese motorcycles based on the "CURRENT" QUALITY of their product, not on price! They have a waiting list.

Wasn't always that way as evidenced by the "I'd rather push my Harley than ride a rice burner" T-shirts of years gone by.

I could afford a rice burner (750F Honda) and I knew those Haleys couldn't catch me so I left them spinning in the highway on many occasions. LOL!



~SH~

I give up. Nowhere did I say anything about sacrificing quality. I can see you'll just keep adding tangents. You win, you wore me out.
 

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