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TimH

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Here is a link with some pics of what the dangle tags look like.(sorry but I'm much too lazy to post the actual pictures)

www.allflexusa.com/special_programs/ccia.php

At the bottom of the page is a pic/link to the electronic RFID tags we use now.......just so Oldtimer knows what to look for. :wink:
 
You saved me some work Tim ,I was just going to run out to pasture through three feet of snow to try and get a pic....they're not a little tag,and pretty recognisable ..esp to a country thats supposed to be looking for them :?

Our son works the auction in Stettler,they ran through over a thousand head last week,and they were tagging some of the cattle that either didn't have them or lost them...that means they noticed cattle out of over a thousand that didn't have a tag...the owner is charged for the tag,Canadian cattle don't leave the action without these special tags.
 
I just spent part of the afternoon trying to catch some old bred cows coming in that I want to sell next week-- With the hair on them now- you can see only about the bottom half (if that much) of the tag on many of them...Picked most out from just the looks of the cow and then after I got them in a little pen was able to make out enough of a number to tell I was right....

Reason my purebred buddy runs them all thru and clips the ears and the hot iron brand before he starts calving- so he can keep the tagging and records straight...
 
Sandhusker said:
Why would anybody be looking for them? They're not supposed to be here.

Sandhusker,you have to use canuck logic to understand some of these canuckle heads,took me a while to get it down pat :wink: .............good luck
 
Oldtimer said:
I just spent part of the afternoon trying to catch some old bred cows coming in that I want to sell next week-- With the hair on them now- you can see only about the bottom half (if that much) of the tag on many of them...Picked most out from just the looks of the cow and then after I got them in a little pen was able to make out enough of a number to tell I was right....

Reason my purebred buddy runs them all thru and clips the ears and the hot iron brand before he starts calving- so he can keep the tagging and records straight...

I see I have some catchin up to do..............my neighbors to the north have another case of BSE...........somebody please tell me it aint post feed ban ?..............good luck
PS that canuck logo on the tags looks to be easy to miss,tagged high in the ear with winter hair.
ccia-large.jpg
 
Its POST feedban Haymaker-- and born after the date that USDA wants to let cattle in under Rule 2-- so if Rule 2 was in place this bull could have ended up at a US slaughter house to test positive and give us another Washington cow type BSE positive that lost the US cattle industry billions $... :( :mad:

A question for you Canucks-- Iluvaltabeef just posted some pictures of calves and yearlings on the Ranch talk thread---Where are the Canuck tags in these cattle? I can't see them.....
Or are those little Dot tags Canadian tags too?
 
Oldtimer said:
Its POST feedban Haymaker-- and born after the date that USDA wants to let cattle in under Rule 2-- so if Rule 2 was in place this bull could have ended up at a US slaughter house to test positive and give us another Washington cow type BSE positive that lost the US cattle industry billions $... :( :mad:

A question for you Canucks-- Iluvaltabeef just posted some pictures of calves and yearlings on the Ranch talk thread---Where are the Canuck tags in these cattle? I can't see them.....
OT...why don't you ask HER :)
 
Mrs.Greg said:
Oldtimer said:
Its POST feedban Haymaker-- and born after the date that USDA wants to let cattle in under Rule 2-- so if Rule 2 was in place this bull could have ended up at a US slaughter house to test positive and give us another Washington cow type BSE positive that lost the US cattle industry billions $... :( :mad:

A question for you Canucks-- Iluvaltabeef just posted some pictures of calves and yearlings on the Ranch talk thread---Where are the Canuck tags in these cattle? I can't see them.....
OT...why don't you ask HER :)

Its you folks that are saying everything in Canada is tagged at conception and the tags stick out so well they're like Airplane Beacons-- not me...I just don't see no tag jumping out except on with a little Dot tag that could have anything on it....

Do you guys have more than one type/style of tag?
 
Oldtimer said:
Its POST feedban Haymaker-- and born after the date that USDA wants to let cattle in under Rule 2-- so if Rule 2 was in place this bull could have ended up at a US slaughter house to test positive and give us another Washington cow type BSE positive that lost the US cattle industry billions $... :( :mad:

A question for you Canucks-- Iluvaltabeef just posted some pictures of calves and yearlings on the Ranch talk thread---Where are the Canuck tags in these cattle? I can't see them.....
Or are those little Dot tags Canadian tags too?

You are right OT,and without a means to trace the orgin...........that bull could have very well been passed off as our latest case of BSE,not a good thing ................good luck
 
Oldtimer wrote-

Its you folks that are saying everything in Canada is tagged at conception and the tags stick out so well they're like Airplane Beacons-- not me...

:D :D

Did you forget to take your laxative again Oldtimer?? :D :D

They do not have to be tagged until they leave their HERD OF ORIGIN.
As well. The RFID buttons that we have to use now ARE hard to spot(about 1 1/8" in diameter). No big deal because they are read with a scanner.
 
AUDIO: Interview with Dr. George Luterbach (7 min 44 sec MP3).

A key question related to the most recent Canadian case of bovine spongiform encephalopathy (BSE), the animal's age appears to have an answer. Wednesday, when the Canadian Food Inspection Agency (CFIA) announced that a bull in Alberta had tested positive for BSE, it described the animal simply as "mature."

The age is important, because Canada implemented a ruminant-to-ruminant feed ban in August of 1997, which is supposed to control the spread of BSE if put in place properly. BSE-positive cattle born after the feed ban went into place call into question the effectiveness of Canada's efforts to eradicate the disease.

Dr. George Luterbach, Senior Veterinarian for the Canadian Food Inspection Agency, told Brownfield Friday he believes the most recent Canadian case of BSE was born after Canada implemented a ruminant-to-ruminant feed ban, based on the report of cattleman who had owned the animal in question.

"The owner reported the year of birth as being 2000," Luterbach said.

Luterbach said, if confirmed, that would be Canada's third case of BSE found after their feed ban took effect. But he pointed out the information on the animal's age hasn't yet been proven by the ongoing investigation into the case.

"Much of this information needs to be verified," cautioned Luterbach.

Even if the latest case of Canadian BSE was born after Canada's feed ban went into place, Luterbach said that doesn't mean the prohibition on ruminant-to-ruminant feeding isn't working.

"Most countries that have had BSE have experienced a small number of cases after the feed ban implementation," he said.

Nevertheless, Luterbach confirmed Canada had approved new rules that would remove meat and bone meal from all livestock feed, including that destined for swine and poultry, effective on a mandatory basis in July of this year. He cited accidental feeding of swine or poultry feed containing meat and bone meal to cattle as one potential pathway for BSE transmission, and said Canada wished to eliminate that possibility.

"As an enhancement to what I believe to be a largely effective feed ban, Canada is moving ahead to remove all SRM [specified risk materials] from all feed in Canada," Luterbach explained, "thus removing more than 99% of the infectivity, should it be present in feed."

As for the charge of American cattle group R-CALF USDA that there's an epidemic of BSE in Canada, Luterbach called that "nonsense," pointing out Canada has a "robust surveillance program" and arguing that BSE in Canada is "well on its way to eradication." Luterbach also asserted that Canada had taken every step suggested by science for dealing with BSE.

"BSE control and eradication is not just factored on one single event," Luterbach said, "but rather, it is a whole suite of measures that are in place."

Nine head of cattle have turned up positive for BSE within Canada's borders. One other case, America's first, involved an older dairy cow imported from Canada. Two other cases of BSE have since been found in the U.S., both involving animals born before the U.S. implemented its ruminant-to-ruminant feed ban.
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I dont like the way this guy counts,that washington cow,belongs to Canada...............good luck
 
I dont like the way this guy counts,that washington cow,belongs to Canada...............good luck

But if that Canadian bull had been allowed across the border and found down here- we would have got credit for him too--the same as we did the Washington cow.... :( :( :mad: :mad:
 
Luterbach: "Most countries that have had BSE have experienced a small number of cases after the feed ban implementation," he said.

There has been 45,851 cases born after the feed ban in England. :shock:

Hope this is no indication of things to come on this side of the pond.
 
HAY MAKER said:
AUDIO: Interview with Dr. George Luterbach (7 min 44 sec MP3).

A key question related to the most recent Canadian case of bovine spongiform encephalopathy (BSE), the animal's age appears to have an answer. Wednesday, when the Canadian Food Inspection Agency (CFIA) announced that a bull in Alberta had tested positive for BSE, it described the animal simply as "mature."

The age is important, because Canada implemented a ruminant-to-ruminant feed ban in August of 1997, which is supposed to control the spread of BSE if put in place properly. BSE-positive cattle born after the feed ban went into place call into question the effectiveness of Canada's efforts to eradicate the disease.

Dr. George Luterbach, Senior Veterinarian for the Canadian Food Inspection Agency, told Brownfield Friday he believes the most recent Canadian case of BSE was born after Canada implemented a ruminant-to-ruminant feed ban, based on the report of cattleman who had owned the animal in question.

"The owner reported the year of birth as being 2000," Luterbach said.

Luterbach said, if confirmed, that would be Canada's third case of BSE found after their feed ban took effect. But he pointed out the information on the animal's age hasn't yet been proven by the ongoing investigation into the case.

"Much of this information needs to be verified," cautioned Luterbach.

Even if the latest case of Canadian BSE was born after Canada's feed ban went into place, Luterbach said that doesn't mean the prohibition on ruminant-to-ruminant feeding isn't working.

"Most countries that have had BSE have experienced a small number of cases after the feed ban implementation," he said.

Nevertheless, Luterbach confirmed Canada had approved new rules that would remove meat and bone meal from all livestock feed, including that destined for swine and poultry, effective on a mandatory basis in July of this year. He cited accidental feeding of swine or poultry feed containing meat and bone meal to cattle as one potential pathway for BSE transmission, and said Canada wished to eliminate that possibility.

"As an enhancement to what I believe to be a largely effective feed ban, Canada is moving ahead to remove all SRM [specified risk materials] from all feed in Canada," Luterbach explained, "thus removing more than 99% of the infectivity, should it be present in feed."

As for the charge of American cattle group R-CALF USDA that there's an epidemic of BSE in Canada, Luterbach called that "nonsense," pointing out Canada has a "robust surveillance program" and arguing that BSE in Canada is "well on its way to eradication." Luterbach also asserted that Canada had taken every step suggested by science for dealing with BSE.

"BSE control and eradication is not just factored on one single event," Luterbach said, "but rather, it is a whole suite of measures that are in place."

Nine head of cattle have turned up positive for BSE within Canada's borders. One other case, America's first, involved an older dairy cow imported from Canada. Two other cases of BSE have since been found in the U.S., both involving animals born before the U.S. implemented its ruminant-to-ruminant feed ban.
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I dont like the way this guy counts,that washington cow,belongs to Canada...............good luck

Luterbach said, if confirmed, that would be Canada's third case of BSE found after their feed ban took effect.




Haymaker this dummy can't count at all...This is number 5 (FIVE) POST feedban for Canada not 3......


This is the birthdates CFIA list in the summaries of each case:

#7 2002
#5 2000
#4 2000
#3 1998

And now this bull born in 2000 makes 5 (FIVE) POST feedban cattle.....

http://www.inspection.gc.ca/english/anima/heasan/disemala/bseesb/situatione.shtml
 
Haymaker said:
I dont like the way this guy counts,
Oldtimer said:
Haymaker this dummy can't count at all...This is number 5 (FIVE) POST feedban for Canada not 3......


Haymaker and Oldtimer - did either of you listen to the audio link ?

The "writer/author" didn't either or also has a major hearing problem if he conducted the interview and wrote the article .....

What Luterbach said was :
"First of all we have had two other cases of the same age"

  • The reporter can take 100% credit for the line : "if confirmed, that would be Canada's third case of BSE found after their feed ban took effect."
Good thing the audio link was posted :roll: :wink:
 
Oldtimer said:
HAY MAKER said:
AUDIO: Interview with Dr. George Luterbach (7 min 44 sec MP3).

A key question related to the most recent Canadian case of bovine spongiform encephalopathy (BSE), the animal's age appears to have an answer. Wednesday, when the Canadian Food Inspection Agency (CFIA) announced that a bull in Alberta had tested positive for BSE, it described the animal simply as "mature."

The age is important, because Canada implemented a ruminant-to-ruminant feed ban in August of 1997, which is supposed to control the spread of BSE if put in place properly. BSE-positive cattle born after the feed ban went into place call into question the effectiveness of Canada's efforts to eradicate the disease.

Dr. George Luterbach, Senior Veterinarian for the Canadian Food Inspection Agency, told Brownfield Friday he believes the most recent Canadian case of BSE was born after Canada implemented a ruminant-to-ruminant feed ban, based on the report of cattleman who had owned the animal in question.

"The owner reported the year of birth as being 2000," Luterbach said.

Luterbach said, if confirmed, that would be Canada's third case of BSE found after their feed ban took effect. But he pointed out the information on the animal's age hasn't yet been proven by the ongoing investigation into the case.

"Much of this information needs to be verified," cautioned Luterbach.

Even if the latest case of Canadian BSE was born after Canada's feed ban went into place, Luterbach said that doesn't mean the prohibition on ruminant-to-ruminant feeding isn't working.

"Most countries that have had BSE have experienced a small number of cases after the feed ban implementation," he said.

Nevertheless, Luterbach confirmed Canada had approved new rules that would remove meat and bone meal from all livestock feed, including that destined for swine and poultry, effective on a mandatory basis in July of this year. He cited accidental feeding of swine or poultry feed containing meat and bone meal to cattle as one potential pathway for BSE transmission, and said Canada wished to eliminate that possibility.

"As an enhancement to what I believe to be a largely effective feed ban, Canada is moving ahead to remove all SRM [specified risk materials] from all feed in Canada," Luterbach explained, "thus removing more than 99% of the infectivity, should it be present in feed."

As for the charge of American cattle group R-CALF USDA that there's an epidemic of BSE in Canada, Luterbach called that "nonsense," pointing out Canada has a "robust surveillance program" and arguing that BSE in Canada is "well on its way to eradication." Luterbach also asserted that Canada had taken every step suggested by science for dealing with BSE.

"BSE control and eradication is not just factored on one single event," Luterbach said, "but rather, it is a whole suite of measures that are in place."

Nine head of cattle have turned up positive for BSE within Canada's borders. One other case, America's first, involved an older dairy cow imported from Canada. Two other cases of BSE have since been found in the U.S., both involving animals born before the U.S. implemented its ruminant-to-ruminant feed ban.
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I dont like the way this guy counts,that washington cow,belongs to Canada...............good luck

Luterbach said, if confirmed, that would be Canada's third case of BSE found after their feed ban took effect.




Haymaker this dummy can't count at all...This is number 5 (FIVE) POST feedban for Canada not 3......


This is the birthdates CFIA list in the summaries of each case:

#7 2002
#5 2000
#4 2000
#3 1998

And now this bull born in 2000 makes 5 (FIVE) POST feedban cattle.....

http://www.inspection.gc.ca/english/anima/heasan/disemala/bseesb/situatione.shtml

Ot,

happen to know Mr Luterback personally next time I talk to him I will have to mention you and Haymaker think hes a dummy. He has probably forgot more in one day then both you two will know in a lifetime.... :evil: :wink:
 
Manitoba_Rancher said:
Oldtimer said:
HAY MAKER said:
AUDIO: Interview with Dr. George Luterbach (7 min 44 sec MP3).

A key question related to the most recent Canadian case of bovine spongiform encephalopathy (BSE), the animal's age appears to have an answer. Wednesday, when the Canadian Food Inspection Agency (CFIA) announced that a bull in Alberta had tested positive for BSE, it described the animal simply as "mature."

The age is important, because Canada implemented a ruminant-to-ruminant feed ban in August of 1997, which is supposed to control the spread of BSE if put in place properly. BSE-positive cattle born after the feed ban went into place call into question the effectiveness of Canada's efforts to eradicate the disease.

Dr. George Luterbach, Senior Veterinarian for the Canadian Food Inspection Agency, told Brownfield Friday he believes the most recent Canadian case of BSE was born after Canada implemented a ruminant-to-ruminant feed ban, based on the report of cattleman who had owned the animal in question.

"The owner reported the year of birth as being 2000," Luterbach said.

Luterbach said, if confirmed, that would be Canada's third case of BSE found after their feed ban took effect. But he pointed out the information on the animal's age hasn't yet been proven by the ongoing investigation into the case.

"Much of this information needs to be verified," cautioned Luterbach.

Even if the latest case of Canadian BSE was born after Canada's feed ban went into place, Luterbach said that doesn't mean the prohibition on ruminant-to-ruminant feeding isn't working.

"Most countries that have had BSE have experienced a small number of cases after the feed ban implementation," he said.

Nevertheless, Luterbach confirmed Canada had approved new rules that would remove meat and bone meal from all livestock feed, including that destined for swine and poultry, effective on a mandatory basis in July of this year. He cited accidental feeding of swine or poultry feed containing meat and bone meal to cattle as one potential pathway for BSE transmission, and said Canada wished to eliminate that possibility.

"As an enhancement to what I believe to be a largely effective feed ban, Canada is moving ahead to remove all SRM [specified risk materials] from all feed in Canada," Luterbach explained, "thus removing more than 99% of the infectivity, should it be present in feed."

As for the charge of American cattle group R-CALF USDA that there's an epidemic of BSE in Canada, Luterbach called that "nonsense," pointing out Canada has a "robust surveillance program" and arguing that BSE in Canada is "well on its way to eradication." Luterbach also asserted that Canada had taken every step suggested by science for dealing with BSE.

"BSE control and eradication is not just factored on one single event," Luterbach said, "but rather, it is a whole suite of measures that are in place."

Nine head of cattle have turned up positive for BSE within Canada's borders. One other case, America's first, involved an older dairy cow imported from Canada. Two other cases of BSE have since been found in the U.S., both involving animals born before the U.S. implemented its ruminant-to-ruminant feed ban.
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I dont like the way this guy counts,that washington cow,belongs to Canada...............good luck

Luterbach said, if confirmed, that would be Canada's third case of BSE found after their feed ban took effect.




Haymaker this dummy can't count at all...This is number 5 (FIVE) POST feedban for Canada not 3......


This is the birthdates CFIA list in the summaries of each case:

#7 2002
#5 2000
#4 2000
#3 1998

And now this bull born in 2000 makes 5 (FIVE) POST feedban cattle.....

http://www.inspection.gc.ca/english/anima/heasan/disemala/bseesb/situatione.shtml

Ot,

happen to know Mr Luterback personally next time I talk to him I will have to mention you and Haymaker think hes a dummy. He has probably forgot more in one day then both you two will know in a lifetime.... :evil: :wink:

Yeah- but he apparently didn't know what I figured out years ago... In dealing with the press and media, you better write everything out in black and white or they'll screw it up seven ways to Sunday....

Ask him if he can spell Santa Gertrudis :???: :wink: :lol: :lol:
 
OT,in ranchtalk,the young lady posted more pics,I think called diffrent pics....go to the last pic and you'll see the RFID buttons in her calves ears... :)
 

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