CDN Eartags

[Anonymous]

OT,in ranchtalk,the young lady posted more pics,I think called diffrent pics....go to the last pic and you'll see the RFID buttons in her calves ears...

Yep-- thats what I thought I saw in the other picture...Some of the feedlots have been using them for years....Many calves are showing up with them now....How can you tell if these are Canadian ID tags? Or just a feedlot pen color? Or is God save the Queen spelled out across them for microscopic review..... :???: :wink: :lol:

 

[Manitoba_Rancher]

Well OT they got CA and a maple leaf on them. If you can miss the lettering and RFID tags then you shouldnt be driving a vehicle.

 

[Bill]

OT,in ranchtalk,the young lady posted more pics,I think called diffrent pics....go to the last pic and you'll see the RFID buttons in her calves ears...

Yep-- thats what I thought I saw in the other picture...Some of the feedlots have been using them for years....Many calves are showing up with them now....How can you tell if these are Canadian ID tags? Or just a feedlot pen color? Or is God save the Queen spelled out across them for microscopic review..... :???: :wink: :lol:

Feedlots in the US have been using RFID button tags to ID pen colors for years?

I doubt that very much!

 

[Anonymous]

OT,in ranchtalk,the young lady posted more pics,I think called diffrent pics....go to the last pic and you'll see the RFID buttons in her calves ears...

Yep-- thats what I thought I saw in the other picture...Some of the feedlots have been using them for years....Many calves are showing up with them now....How can you tell if these are Canadian ID tags? Or just a feedlot pen color? Or is God save the Queen spelled out across them for microscopic review..... :???: :wink: :lol:

Feedlots in the US have been using RFID button tags to ID pen colors for years?

I doubt that very much!

Those button tags are and have been available for some time without RFID-- look exactly the same...Good for marking seperate lots/pens---4-H around here have used them for marking kids calves and hogs for 15 years....

Also some feedlots have had RFID tags for several years-- one Company in Colorado that gets a lot of cattle out of around here uses the eyeball reader...They take the cattlemens affidavits with cattle info (birthdates, feed, range origin, shots, implants/no implants verification) and brand inspection ownership paperwork and input it all in their computer to cross reference from the tag to the affidavits.....

 

[DiamondSCattleCo]

The one thing I keep seeing is mention of a HORN being stamped on the tag. This certainly won't be a CCIA tag, and I'd like to know how having HORN stamped on the tag suddenly makes it a Canadian tag?

Rod

 

[PORKER]

The one thing I keep seeing is mention of a HORN being stamped on the tag.

Rod ,The VanDykes said it was hand written on the Canadian tag, the word Horn.

 

[PORKER]

Reason was VanDykes purchased the Canadian cattle unknownly in Feb. 2006 from local sale barns.

VanDykes owned and fed those cattle for 10 months.

USDA claims the fat cattle entered the US going to SWIFT a few hours before slaughter. WRONG

Vet says he sees papers from port of entry that were of that specific date. WRONG

SWIFT says CATTLE were brought in by VanDykes. RIGHT

SWIFT says Some of VanDykes cattle had Canadian tags including one with the word HORN hand writtened on it .RIGHT

SO WHO is LIEING ,IT's EASY So How many Family's or order/borkers named Horn have done the live Canada cattle export scheme.

 

[DiamondSCattleCo]

Rod ,The VanDykes said it was hand written on the Canadian tag, the word Horn.

Impossible. There is no room on a CCIA RFID tag to write anything except in very small letters with a pen. And if they were looking at the tag close enough to see small lettering, they would have easily seen the maple leaf on the tag.

Rod

 

[Anonymous]

Rod ,The VanDykes said it was hand written on the Canadian tag, the word Horn.

Impossible. There is no room on a CCIA RFID tag to write anything except in very small letters with a pen. And if they were looking at the tag close enough to see small lettering, they would have easily seen the maple leaf on the tag.

Rod

Rod-- Look at those tags-- To you it may be a maple leaf...To us that never look at a maple leaf and could give a dam less about a maple leaf-- it doesn't look like no maple leaf...One whole side is missing...Then CA...Is that really the abbreviation for Canada? News to me...If I saw it I would think it part of a brand or a branded beef--Certified Angus, California Angus....Actually in the US- it is officially the US Post Offices/US governments abbreviation for California.....

Many of these prefab- prenumbered tags now have the brand put up there where that 2 sided so called maple leaf is-- and I see many tags with a persons name written on the bottome edge with a marking pen..."HORN" would make me think they are Joe Horns cattle....

 

[Bill]

Rod ,The VanDykes said it was hand written on the Canadian tag, the word Horn.

Impossible. There is no room on a CCIA RFID tag to write anything except in very small letters with a pen. And if they were looking at the tag close enough to see small lettering, they would have easily seen the maple leaf on the tag.

Rod

Rod-- Look at those tags-- To you it may be a maple leaf...To us that never look at a maple leaf and could give a dam less about a maple leaf-- it doesn't look like no maple leaf...One whole side is missing...Then CA...Is that really the abbreviation for Canada? News to me...If I saw it I would think it part of a brand or a branded beef--Certified Angus, California Angus....Actually in the US- it is officially the US Post Offices/US governments abbreviation for California.....

Many of these prefab- prenumbered tags now have the brand put up there where that 2 sided so called maple leaf is-- and I see many tags with a persons name written on the bottome edge with a marking pen..."HORN" would make me think they are Joe Horns cattle....

I would say you are pretty much obsessed with the Maple Leaf.

 

[Sandhusker]

I've got to agree with OT. First of all, you're not even looking for a Canadian tag, and that's a pretty crappy rendition of a maple leaf. You ask cattlemen down here what a "CA" might mean on a tag and I'll bet you every answer has "Angus" in it.

 

[Bill]

I've got to agree with OT. First of all, you're not even looking for a Canadian tag, and that's a pretty crappy rendition of a maple leaf. You ask cattlemen down here what a "CA" might mean on a tag and I'll bet you every answer has "Angus" in it.

You've got to agree with OT? Well Sooooprise, soooooprise, soooooprise!

:roll:

Not even looking for a Canadian tag. All you Klanners do is piss and moan about all the Canadian cattle that are supposeed to be flooding down there and you don't even know what the heck is on a Canadian ID tag?

 

[TimH]

I've got to agree with OT. First of all, you're not even looking for a Canadian tag, and that's a pretty crappy rendition of a maple leaf. You ask cattlemen down here what a "CA" might mean on a tag and I'll bet you every answer has "Angus" in it.

Since you and OT are having such a hard time distinguishing CDN eartags, here is a question for you...... under what possible circumstances would you or OT ever even see a legally imported CDN feeder or slaughter animal?

 

[Sandhusker]

I've got to agree with OT. First of all, you're not even looking for a Canadian tag, and that's a pretty crappy rendition of a maple leaf. You ask cattlemen down here what a "CA" might mean on a tag and I'll bet you every answer has "Angus" in it.

Since you and OT are having such a hard time distinguishing CDN eartags, here is a question for you...... under what possible circumstances would you or OT ever even see a legally imported CDN feeder or slaughter animal?

I never would. Same as Van Dykes. You're just making our point. Why are we to know what that tag was?

 

[TimH]

I've got to agree with OT. First of all, you're not even looking for a Canadian tag, and that's a pretty crappy rendition of a maple leaf. You ask cattlemen down here what a "CA" might mean on a tag and I'll bet you every answer has "Angus" in it.

Since you and OT are having such a hard time distinguishing CDN eartags, here is a question for you...... under what possible circumstances would you or OT ever even see a legally imported CDN feeder or slaughter animal?

I never would. Same as Van Dykes. You're just making our point. Why are we to know what that tag was?

The consenus seems to be that the cattle that Van Dykes saw were NOT branded CAN, and therefore NOT legally imported.
Who is making who's point?

 

[DiamondSCattleCo]

Many of these prefab- prenumbered tags now have the brand put up there where that 2 sided so called maple leaf is-- and I see many tags with a persons name written on the bottome edge with a marking pen..."HORN" would make me think they are Joe Horns cattle....

But according to Van Dyke, they never got very close to those animals. At least thats what I read in the other thread. So which is it? Did they get close enough to see writing on a 2mm thick button? Or didn't they?

Rod

 

[Anonymous]

Many of these prefab- prenumbered tags now have the brand put up there where that 2 sided so called maple leaf is-- and I see many tags with a persons name written on the bottome edge with a marking pen..."HORN" would make me think they are Joe Horns cattle....

But according to Van Dyke, they never got very close to those animals. At least thats what I read in the other thread. So which is it? Did they get close enough to see writing on a 2mm thick button? Or didn't they?

Rod

He said one was licking on him while he was working on a tank or something-- thats pretty close....

 

[DiamondSCattleCo]

He said one was licking on him while he was working on a tank or something-- thats pretty close....

So he reached up and looked on the underside of the tag?

 

[Anonymous]

He said one was licking on him while he was working on a tank or something-- thats pretty close....

So he reached up and looked on the underside of the tag?

I think you don't understand my definition of bottom edge-- I meant the lower inch or so of the tag---HORN written an inch high would be readable even to an old fogey with bifocals....

I see this a lot with folks putting their name on their tags-- My names too long so I put the brand at the top where that sad looking image of the Maple Leaf is....

I have a neighbor that buys the premade- pre numbered tags-- Has his name in about 1/4 high letters on the bottom face-- big 3 figure number in the center and his brand --a NZ stacked on the top...I wonder if we're supposed to think/guess those came from New Zealand? :wink: :lol:

 

[Kato]

Reason was VanDykes purchased the Canadian cattle unknownly in Feb. 2006 from local sale barns.

VanDykes owned and fed those cattle for 10 months.

:shock: Did anyone else see them there?

USDA claims the fat cattle entered the US going to SWIFT a few hours before slaughter. WRONG

:shock: How do you know that? Have you seen the export papers?

Vet says he sees papers from port of entry that were of that specific date. WRONG

:shock: How do you know that? Have seen the export papers?

SWIFT says CATTLE were brought in by VanDykes. RIGHT

Obviously they've changed their minds about that, and don't say it now.

SWIFT says Some of VanDykes cattle had Canadian tags including one with the word HORN hand writtened on it .RIGHT

If it had HORN written on it, that would be listed on the export papers.

SO WHO is LIEING ,IT's EASY

:shock: Maybe no one is lying. Maybe he's mistaken, and for sure Swift's was mistaken in the beginning.

So How many Family's or order/borkers named Horn have done the live Canada cattle export scheme.

Pretty common name. May not even be a name. Maybe it's the name of the cow? 8)

All he needs to do is ask to see the export papers himself. There should be a copy at the plant, at the border, at the CFIA office, and in the records of the Canadian vet who inspected them for export.

As for the CA meaning Certified Angus, I don't know what the American Angus tags look like, but the Canadian ones have the word ANGUS written on them, and they are all green. Isn't it a common enough program down there for most people to know what a real certified angus tag looks like? Everyone up here does, and you have a higher percentage of Angus cattle in your herds than we do. :roll: