Congress Calls for Single Food Safety Agency

[Econ101]

mmmm sorry but if you check your paystub it is SSI social security income, Social Security Agency uses SSI because SSA is used for Secret Service Agency long before Social Security.

Everyone in the US knows it is SSI. Jason doesn't because he is Canadian and talking about something he knows nothing about....again.

 

[PORKER]

http://www.cdc.gov/ncidod/dbmd/diseaseinfo/salmonellosis_2007/outbreak_notice.htm

Hot Link to the CDC Above>>>>>>

 

[Texan]

mmmm sorry but if you check your paystub it is SSI social security income, Social Security Agency uses SSI because SSA is used for Secret Service Agency long before Social Security.

Everyone in the US knows it is SSI. Jason doesn't because he is Canadian and talking about something he knows nothing about....again.

I guess everyone in the US doesn't know that. The people that work at the Social Security Administration must be pretty dumb, too. They also think that SSA stands for Social Security Administration.

And even though some people 'incorrectly' abbreviate Social Security Income as SSI when they refer to income derived from Social Security benefits, SSI actually stands for Supplemental Security Income. That's a disability benefits program administered by the Social Security Administration, the SSA.

The people at the Secret Service must be dumbasses, too? They think that USSS is the acronym for the United States Secret Service. They'll be surprised to find out that they really work for the SSA.

 

[Econ101]

mmmm sorry but if you check your paystub it is SSI social security income, Social Security Agency uses SSI because SSA is used for Secret Service Agency long before Social Security.

Everyone in the US knows it is SSI. Jason doesn't because he is Canadian and talking about something he knows nothing about....again.

I guess everyone in the US doesn't know that. The people that work at the Social Security Administration must be pretty dumb, too. They also think that SSA stands for Social Security Administration.

And even though some people 'incorrectly' abbreviate Social Security Income as SSI when they refer to income derived from Social Security benefits, SSI actually stands for Supplemental Security Income. That's a disability benefits program administered by the Social Security Administration, the SSA.

The people at the Secret Service must be dumbasses, too? They think that USSS is the acronym for the United States Secret Service. They'll be surprised to find out that they really work for the SSA.

SSI is the program he was talking about that the illegals were using. It is a disability program administered by the SSA. Socal Security actually gets a lot of tax revenue from illegals without paying Social Security benefits.

I don't know how much they really use it as I have not seen the data but that is the program he and others use when referring to illegal aliens getting a "free ride" off of the government.

I am sorry I mistook you for having more intelligence than you have. I stand corrected.

 

[Econ101]

From Fox News:

Illegal Aliens Eligible for Social Security Benefits

Thursday, February 20, 2003

By Matt Hayes

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Annie was an ethnic Chinese born in Malaysia who had legally emigrated to the U.S. decades ago. She entered my law office with her mother, who clutched a well-worn copy of a Chinese language book called What You Need to Know About Life in America that is eventually encountered by most immigration lawyers.

Annie knew her mother had no legal basis to remain in the U.S. She had overstayed her tourist visa and had never applied for any type of immigration benefit beyond that, though she had managed to remain for years, working off the books and going undetected by the INS.

Annie had brought her mother to my office not for an immigration matter, but for retirement planning. She had one question, "What do I have to do to qualify her for SSI?"

SSI, or Supplemental Security Income, is a federal cash benefit program for persons 65 or older, or those who are blind or have a disability. SSI payments are generally unavailable to most people already receiving Social Security benefits, though an individual may be able to receive both if combined household income and resources fall within the SSI limits. Besides cash payments, persons who are eligible for SSI are automatically eligible for most state-administered Medicaid programs.

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SSI is funded through the payroll taxes of Americans. But you don't have to be an American to receive SSI payments. Like food stamps, Medicaid and almost every other form of social insurance that America has developed to help its citizens, SSI is targeted by people from other countries as a tool to materially improve their lives without work.

Note other state benefits are given on the fact evidence that SSI has already been granted.

As far as Social Security proper:

Illegal Immigrants Are Bolstering Social Security With Billions
NY Times ^ | 4/5/05 | Eduardo Porter

Posted on 04/04/2005 9:27:22 PM PDT by Crackingham

Since illegally crossing the Mexican border into the United States six years ago, Ángel Martínez has done backbreaking work, harvesting asparagus, pruning grapevines and picking the ripe fruit. More recently, he has also washed trucks, often working as much as 70 hours a week, earning $8.50 to $12.75 an hour.

Not surprisingly, Mr. Martínez, 28, has not given much thought to Social Security's long-term financial problems. But Mr. Martínez - who comes from the state of Oaxaca in southern Mexico and hiked for two days through the desert to enter the United States near Tecate, some 20 miles east of Tijuana - contributes more than most Americans to the solvency of the nation's public retirement system.

Last year, Mr. Martínez paid about $2,000 toward Social Security and $450 for Medicare through payroll taxes withheld from his wages. Yet unlike most Americans, who will receive some form of a public pension in retirement and will be eligible for Medicare as soon as they turn 65, Mr. Martínez is not entitled to benefits.

He belongs to a big club. As the debate over Social Security heats up, the estimated seven million or so illegal immigrant workers in the United States are now providing the system with a subsidy of as much as $7 billion a year.

While it has been evident for years that illegal immigrants pay a variety of taxes, the extent of their contributions to Social Security is striking: the money added up to about 10 percent of last year's surplus - the difference between what the system currently receives in payroll taxes and what it doles out in pension benefits. Moreover, the money paid by illegal workers and their employers is factored into all the Social Security Administration's projections.

Illegal immigration, Marcelo Suárez-Orozco, co-director of immigration studies at New York University, noted sardonically, could provide "the fastest way to shore up the long-term finances of Social Security."

It is impossible to know exactly how many illegal immigrant workers pay taxes. But according to specialists, most of them do. Since 1986, when the Immigration Reform and Control Act set penalties for employers who knowingly hire illegal immigrants, most such workers have been forced to buy fake ID's to get a job.

Currently available for about $150 on street corners in just about any immigrant neighborhood in California, a typical fake ID package includes a green card and a Social Security card. It provides cover for employers, who, if asked, can plausibly assert that they believe all their workers are legal. It also means that workers must be paid by the book - with payroll tax deductions.

IRCA, as the immigration act is known, did little to deter employers from hiring illegal immigrants or to discourage them from working. But for Social Security's finances, it was a great piece of legislation.

Starting in the late 1980's, the Social Security Administration received a flood of W-2 earnings reports with incorrect - sometimes simply fictitious - Social Security numbers. It stashed them in what it calls the "earnings suspense file" in the hope that someday it would figure out whom they belonged to.

The file has been mushrooming ever since: $189 billion worth of wages ended up recorded in the suspense file over the 1990's, two and a half times the amount of the 1980's.

In the current decade, the file is growing, on average, by more than $50 billion a year, generating $6 billion to $7 billion in Social Security tax revenue and about $1.5 billion in Medicare taxes.

In 2002 alone, the last year with figures released by the Social Security Administration, nine million W-2's with incorrect Social Security numbers landed in the suspense file, accounting for $56 billion in earnings, or about 1.5 percent of total reported wages.

Social Security officials do not know what fraction of the suspense file corresponds to the earnings of illegal immigrants. But they suspect that the portion is significant.

"Our assumption is that about three-quarters of other-than-legal immigrants pay payroll taxes," said Stephen C. Goss, Social Security's chief actuary, using the agency's term for illegal immigration.

SSI benefits, according to several rulings in the courts, can not be denied to children whose parents are illegal aliens. The kids born in the USA are U.S. citizens. With SSI benefits comes a host of other benefits that use qualification of SSI as a basis for their benefits.

 

[Econ101]

Texan, you are as bad as Jason when it comes to getting information correct. I am getting the impression that your hat is more impressive than what is under it.

 

[PORKER]

If only some on this board had some reading common sense. SSI income keeps them here.

 

[Texan]

Texan, you are as bad as Jason when it comes to getting information correct. I am getting the impression that your hat is more impressive than what is under it.

I am sorry I mistook you for having more intelligence than you have. I stand corrected.

You stand corrected a lot lately, ekon. :lol: I'll tell you what let's do - since you're worried about your inability to get information correct - let's review one more time for everyone what a fool you made of yourself in just another one of many attempts to make yourself look better at the expense of others...

Here is Jason's contribution to this subject:

Social Security Administration would be SSA

That was a correct statement from Jason, but your new little best friend, Porky (aka fagFlorida) wasn't content with that...

mmmm sorry but if you check your paystub it is SSI social security income, Social Security Agency uses SSI because SSA is used for Secret Service Agency long before Social Security.

That was a pretty stupid post from Porky/aka fagFlorida. I think everybody can admit that. Well - everybody except you, ekon. Because you agreed with him in a failed attempt to take a cheap shot at Jason. Did you check your paystub like Porky told you to do? :lol:

Now here's the part where you try to build yourself up by attempting to make others look bad - in this case it's not only Jason. It's really ALL of the Canadians that you choose to insult...

Everyone in the US knows it is SSI. Jason doesn't because he is Canadian and talking about something he knows nothing about....again.

Did you "check your paystub", ekon? Your new best buddy (Porky/aka fagFlorida) wrote, "it is SSI social security income" and you wrote that everybody in the US knows that. When actually everyone knows that SSA is the Social Security Administration and SSI is Supplemental Security Income.

Check your paystub again, ekon. Sorry I can't help you with that - I don't know what a paystub says because I don't get one. Maybe what you get is SSI? Check your paystub again, ekon. :lol:

You really provide a lot of laughs, ekon. You are always so anxious to build yourself up by trying to make others look bad that you don't even realize when you make yourself look like a fool. Keep it up, because you provide many of us with more entertainment than the jokes in the Coffee Shop.

I really like the way you google around all over the www to try to find material to make it look like you know what you're talking about. LOL. The only thing funnier than you trying to cover your ash like you've done here, is when you try to post something about cattle.

Every time that somebody points out that you don't know jackshit about cattle, you just have to go out of your way to prove them RIGHT. Keep on pounding out those posts - I'm trying to go through some of them and make up a collection of greatest hits for you. LOTS of material in over SIX THOUSAND posts. You go, boy! :lol:

 

[Texan]

Now it's your turn, Miss Piggy...

If only some on this board had some reading common sense. SSI income keeps them here.

Most of us on this board have enough "reading common sense" to realize that fagFlorida is you, Porky. Let's see - a new poster (fagFlorida) comes into Bull Session to ask a question about software? Hmmm. And he happens to mention ScoringAg in his very first post? Hmmm. And you (Porky/Miss Piggy) get into a conversation with him? Hmmm.

Porky, only someone as stupid as you are could think that you could hide your ignorance with a different name. Just keep on trying to hunch on ekon's leg, boy. Maybe you'll get a nice pat on the head. :lol:

 

[PORKER]

Gee,Texan , You kinda jealous that ScoringAg is better. I gave Dag Florida a message and he is looking for the right product. Here is his phone number if you got something better ,904-294-2443 I think he will pick the best one as he sounds fussy.

 

[Econ101]

Texan, you are as bad as Jason when it comes to getting information correct. I am getting the impression that your hat is more impressive than what is under it.

I am sorry I mistook you for having more intelligence than you have. I stand corrected.

You stand corrected a lot lately, ekon. :lol: I'll tell you what let's do - since you're worried about your inability to get information correct - let's review one more time for everyone what a fool you made of yourself in just another one of many attempts to make yourself look better at the expense of others...

Here is Jason's contribution to this subject:

Social Security Administration would be SSA

That was a correct statement from Jason, but your new little best friend, Porky (aka fagFlorida) wasn't content with that...

mmmm sorry but if you check your paystub it is SSI social security income, Social Security Agency uses SSI because SSA is used for Secret Service Agency long before Social Security.

That was a pretty stupid post from Porky/aka fagFlorida. I think everybody can admit that. Well - everybody except you, ekon. Because you agreed with him in a failed attempt to take a cheap shot at Jason. Did you check your paystub like Porky told you to do? :lol:

Now here's the part where you try to build yourself up by attempting to make others look bad - in this case it's not only Jason. It's really ALL of the Canadians that you choose to insult...

Everyone in the US knows it is SSI. Jason doesn't because he is Canadian and talking about something he knows nothing about....again.

Did you "check your paystub", ekon? Your new best buddy (Porky/aka fagFlorida) wrote, "it is SSI social security income" and you wrote that everybody in the US knows that. When actually everyone knows that SSA is the Social Security Administration and SSI is Supplemental Security Income.

Check your paystub again, ekon. Sorry I can't help you with that - I don't know what a paystub says because I don't get one. Maybe what you get is SSI? Check your paystub again, ekon. :lol:

You really provide a lot of laughs, ekon. You are always so anxious to build yourself up by trying to make others look bad that you don't even realize when you make yourself look like a fool. Keep it up, because you provide many of us with more entertainment than the jokes in the Coffee Shop.

I really like the way you google around all over the www to try to find material to make it look like you know what you're talking about. LOL. The only thing funnier than you trying to cover your ash like you've done here, is when you try to post something about cattle.

Every time that somebody points out that you don't know jackshit about cattle, you just have to go out of your way to prove them RIGHT. Keep on pounding out those posts - I'm trying to go through some of them and make up a collection of greatest hits for you. LOTS of material in over SIX THOUSAND posts. You go, boy! :lol:

Porker wrote:

like they have with SSI and so forth.

DagFlorida

Are you talking about the Social Security Admin. ? Where the prisoners and illeagals get paid to stay in the US ?

We were talking about illegals getting paid to stay in the U.S., texan. You didn't understand that it is SSI instead of SS that is the way for illegals to get paid to stay in the U.S., I was informing you.

I am getting the impression that your hat is more impressive than what is under it.

It becomes more apparent every time you post.

Your knowledge is so superficial and your reasoning skills in great need of a revamp.

I do apologize again for thinking higher of your intelligence than was warranted, and when I am wrong on these sorts of things I have no problem saying I agree with the correction.

Neither you nor Jason knew it was SSI instead of SS so you two still fit in the same category. Enjoy the company. Maybe next time you two can correct a grammatical error (if you put your heads together and get help from your English teacher).

You know nothing about illegal aliens, nor do you know anything about cattle or the economics of the cattle business with the possible exception of superficial information.

Go to your room and study a little more.

 

[PORKER]

Porky, only someone as stupid as you are could think that you could hide your ignorance with a different name.

Only you Texan could have such ignorance.

Gee,Texan , You kinda jealous that ScoringAg is better. I gave Dag Florida a message and he is looking for the right product. Here is his phone number if you got something better ,904-294-2443 I think he will pick the best one as he sounds fussy.

 

[Econ101]

Porky, only someone as stupid as you are could think that you could hide your ignorance with a different name.

Only you Texan could have such ignorance.

Gee,Texan , You kinda jealous that ScoringAg is better. I gave Dag Florida a message and he is looking for the right product. Here is his phone number if you got something better ,904-294-2443 I think he will pick the best one as he sounds fussy.

texan (X) just thinks because he stooped so low as to have a different handle that everyone does the same thing.

Guess what X, we don't all follow your poor example.

 

[Texan]

Porker wrote:

like they have with SSI and so forth.

DagFlorida

Are you talking about the Social Security Admin. ? Where the prisoners and illeagals get paid to stay in the US ?

We were talking about illegals getting paid to stay in the U.S., texan. You didn't understand that it is SSI instead of SS that is the way for illegals to get paid to stay in the U.S., I was informing you.

You really need to quit digging that hole deeper, ekon. :lol: If you wanted to quote your lap-licking, leg-hunching buddy, Porky, you should have done that in the first place. But, nooooooo - you were in too big of a hurry to take a shot at Jason and the Canucks. So you screwed up and quoted the wrong post. :lol2: Here it is again:

mmmm sorry but if you check your paystub it is SSI social security income, Social Security Agency uses SSI because SSA is used for Secret Service Agency long before Social Security.

Everyone in the US knows it is SSI. Jason doesn't because he is Canadian and talking about something he knows nothing about....again.

Apparently, Porky(aka fagFlorida) gets SSI and justifies it by telling everybody that those letters stand for "Social Security Agency". I suppose that you really knew all along what SSI stands for, didn't you ekon? Or...did you have to "check your paystub"? Are you getting SSI, too, ekon? :lol:

But...maybe you've got a good reason for quoting the wrong post? I saw where Miss Piggy was having trouble keeping her identities straight. Maybe you were really in on her shameless little game and you just got confused, too? Maybe it's really not a one way deal on the leg hunching with you guys(?)? I've seen you promoting her little program before, so maybe y'all take turns hunching each other's leg? :lol2:

If you merely got confused about which Porky you wanted to quote, you should just admit it, ekon. After all, most of us make mistakes from time-to-time. But you only make yourself look silly when you keep on digging that hole deeper - when you keep on googling around and posting diversionary crap just to try to cover your ash the way you do. But...that's the way you are. Dig, dig, dig... :lol:

 

[Econ101]

Porker wrote:

like they have with SSI and so forth.

DagFlorida

Are you talking about the Social Security Admin. ? Where the prisoners and illeagals get paid to stay in the US ?

We were talking about illegals getting paid to stay in the U.S., texan. You didn't understand that it is SSI instead of SS that is the way for illegals to get paid to stay in the U.S., I was informing you.

You really need to quit digging that hole deeper, ekon. :lol: If you wanted to quote your lap-licking, leg-hunching buddy, Porky, you should have done that in the first place. But, nooooooo - you were in too big of a hurry to take a shot at Jason and the Canucks. So you screwed up and quoted the wrong post. :lol2: Here it is again:

mmmm sorry but if you check your paystub it is SSI social security income, Social Security Agency uses SSI because SSA is used for Secret Service Agency long before Social Security.

Everyone in the US knows it is SSI. Jason doesn't because he is Canadian and talking about something he knows nothing about....again.

Apparently, Porky(aka fagFlorida) gets SSI and justifies it by telling everybody that those letters stand for "Social Security Agency". I suppose that you really knew all along what SSI stands for, didn't you ekon? Or...did you have to "check your paystub"? Are you getting SSI, too, ekon? :lol:

But...maybe you've got a good reason for quoting the wrong post? I saw where Miss Piggy was having trouble keeping her identities straight. Maybe you were really in on her shameless little game and you just got confused, too? Maybe it's really not a one way deal on the leg hunching with you guys(?)? I've seen you promoting her little program before, so maybe y'all take turns hunching each other's leg? :lol2:

If you merely got confused about which Porky you wanted to quote, you should just admit it, ekon. After all, most of us make mistakes from time-to-time. But you only make yourself look silly when you keep on digging that hole deeper - when you keep on googling around and posting diversionary crap just to try to cover your ash the way you do. But...that's the way you are. Dig, dig, dig... :lol:

Texan, the substance of the post is much more important than the grammar or spelling. Porker was correct that it is the SSI program that the illegal aliens were using, not SS. That fact continues to escape you in your quest to criticize.

If you and Jason want to argue over acronyms, grammar, or spelling, maybe you should find an English board or better yet, get a group of retired English teachers to study the subject. This board is meant to exchange ideas, thoughts and cattle related news.

As far as Jason being a Canadian, who cares? I did not say what I said because he was Canadian. If I wanted to do that there are PLENTY of other people on the board to go after (Tam) in the same way you are doing. Their thoughts are more important than their use of English. If it were not so, English teachers would rule the world.

Face it, you just have no original thoughts, epitomize structure over substance, and just bring any discussion to the low level of discourse that you are familiar with.

If you have a problem with original thought, or thought in general, and have to resort to these tactics, please spare us. I have no problem understanding the thoughts expressed by cattlemen when they are not lingually correct but have valuable information to impart. You should work on that. Maybe you would understand things a little better.

 

[Texan]

Dig, dig, dig... :lol:

 

[Econ101]

Dig, dig, dig... :lol:

If you do get around those English teachers, you might learn some longer words that contain more thought than you are able to express at the present.

 

[PORKER]

http://www.govtrack.us/congress/billtext.xpd?bill=h109-1507 a link to the Safe FOOD ACT;

SEC. 210. TRACEBACK.

(a) In General- The Administrator, in order to protect the public health, shall establish requirements for a national system for tracing food and food producing animals from point of origin to retail sale, subject to subsection (b).

(b) Applicability- Traceability requirements shall--

(1) be established in accordance with regulations and guidelines issued by the Administrator; and

(2) apply to food production facilities and food establishments.

(c) Relationship to Country of Origin Labeling- Nothing contained in this section prevents or interferes with implementation of the country of origin labeling requirements of subtitle D of the Agricultural Marketing Act of 1946 (7 U.S.C. 1638 et seq.).


Criminal Sanctions-

(1) IN GENERAL- Except as provided in paragraphs (2) and (3), a person that knowingly produces or introduces into commerce food that is unsafe or otherwise adulterated or misbranded shall be imprisoned for not more than 1 year or fined not more than $10,000, or both.

(2) SEVERE VIOLATIONS- A person that commits a violation described in paragraph (1) after a conviction of that person under this section has become final, or commits such a violation with the intent to defraud or mislead, shall be imprisoned for not more than 3 years or fined not more than $100,000, or both.

 

[PORKER]

DeLauro said.

The law would hatch a new agency, named the Food Safety Administration, which would carry out the regular, random inspection of all food processing plants, the increased oversight of imported foods, and the adoption of more stringent standards for tracing foods to their point of origin.Lawmakers are hoping such a consolidation would eliminate the bureaucratic confusion caused by the existing setup, a network in which, for example, the Food and Drug Administration oversees frozen cheese pizza, while USDA presides over frozen pepperoni pizza. The 15 distinct agencies collectively administer at least 30 laws.

"Our current food safety system has turned into a food fight among dozens of federal agencies," Durbin said. He and DeLauro note that their position is supported by the Government Accountability Office's recent placement of food safety on its list of critically flawed federal programs.