Murgen said:RCALF didn't really fulfill their mandate either, did they?
I think the RCALF members should really feel let down that their organization could not present a solid case in court, that would standup to scrutiny!
The man that didn't do his job was Cebull and that is probably why this statement was included in the Court of Appeals written rulingSandhusker said:Murgen said:RCALF didn't really fulfill their mandate either, did they?
I think the RCALF members should really feel let down that their organization could not present a solid case in court, that would standup to scrutiny!
I'm satisfied. They happened to get overturned by the court that gets overturned themselves more than anybody else. They argued the USDA did not to their job, which they didn't. The Birkenstock no-under-God- bunch seems to think we should just trust the USDA.
You are satisfied that on every count R-CALF and Cebull were hammered? After what it cost the membership I think you would have expected alot more from the lawyers than that. How much more are you willing to donate to the cause just so you can be satified with losing? :roll:Contrary to the district court's conclusion, we conclude that the Final Rule will likely survive judicial scrutiny under the correct legal standard
Murgen said:What are you saying Tam. Could all that money donated to the Auctions and fundraisers have been spent in a more beneficial way. Put away for a rainy day, or towards starting up a branded beef product etc. Sheep lead astray, you say?
Isn't the legal system great? "no, really I can win this case, all I need is $$$$."
Sandhusker said:You win some you lose some. With the USDA, its a David and Goliath situation. It's just one battle in the war.
Tam said:Sandhusker said:You win some you lose some. With the USDA, its a David and Goliath situation. It's just one battle in the war.
Sandhusker can you tell us just what R-CALF has won. They got M"ID" taken out of M"COOL but what did that do. Oh it made it so you don't have a trace back system in place to find diseased animals and where they came from in the US. Way to go R-CALF. They held up the border but in the end the court of appeals openned it anyway. All that cost the US beef industry was a couple thousand jobs and billions in lost trade. Another way to go R-CALF. They sure didn't win the media campaign they wages on Canadian beef as the demand for beef increased 7 to 8 % while the Canadian boxed beef was entering the US. Check off, no they lost that one, IBP no, Dumping charges against Canada No, CAFTA, no they lost that one this morning. If I belonged to a team that lost as much as R-CALF, I would ask to be traded. :wink:
Sandhusker said:Tam said:Sandhusker said:You win some you lose some. With the USDA, its a David and Goliath situation. It's just one battle in the war.
Sandhusker can you tell us just what R-CALF has won. They got M"ID" taken out of M"COOL but what did that do. Oh it made it so you don't have a trace back system in place to find diseased animals and where they came from in the US. Way to go R-CALF. They held up the border but in the end the court of appeals openned it anyway. All that cost the US beef industry was a couple thousand jobs and billions in lost trade. Another way to go R-CALF. They sure didn't win the media campaign they wages on Canadian beef as the demand for beef increased 7 to 8 % while the Canadian boxed beef was entering the US. Check off, no they lost that one, IBP no, Dumping charges against Canada No, CAFTA, no they lost that one this morning. If I belonged to a team that lost as much as R-CALF, I would ask to be traded. :wink:
R-CALF's actions kept the border closed from March 2005 to July 2005. They cost thousands of jobs and billions in lost trade during 5 months? R-CALF has taken no position on the checkoff. They were not a plaintiff in Pickett. They won the dumping case against Canada. Got anything else you want to share?
R-CALF has taken no position on the checkoff.
They were not a plaintiff in Pickett.
They won the dumping case against Canada.
~SH~ said:Hey I can at least admit when I disagree with NCBA.
R-CULT is always wrong and you follow their pied pipers unconditionally like the R-CULT clone you are.
~SH~