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Drought assistance

alabama said:
I plan to be first in line to get mine. I pay taxes so I look at it like a tax refund.
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Bama-Hate to be the bearer of bad news but there aren't any counties in Alabama eligible for the Emergency Conservation Program. I am not sure how USDA selected who is eligible and who isn't. Here's a link to the eligible counties (pages 2 and 3 of the document:)

http://www.fsa.usda.gov/PAS/news/releases/2006/08/ecp082906.pdf

Maybe the selected counties are counties that emergencies have been declared in. I know that there are some counties in North Dakota that are not included that are equally as bad off as some in South Dakota that are. :?:

Cheers---

TTB :wink:

BamaI should add ...you are probably eligible for other programs...those counties will be announced Friday (if I understand right)
 
I was told that they have not decieded on how to pay out. That will come in a couple of days. It may be the same as before. By the number of head.
 
I should be either D3 or D4 the line probably goes through the middle of my house
Guess I better tell mary to quit watering the front yard

:lol: :( :lol:
 
CattleRMe said:
Isn't this like a welfare program???
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No it's not.

On welfare they furnish you with food,shelter and medical.No work involved.Unless you call shopping for your $500 worth of groceries work.Or going to the doctor just because its free for every little ache or pain.Or calling out the apartment manager to change a light bulb because its not your job thats what welfare people are like.

When this is all said and done it won't amount to very much at all.

Most likely $30 per head on cows one tenth of the feed bill it will help some but wont be the saving grace.
 
CattleRMe said:
Isn't this like a welfare program???
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Its only welfare when a poor person gets money from the government Tough Conservative Cowboy Ranchers dont recieve welfare :wink:
 
This will be a tough one for us to decide whether to participate. We had rain in October of 2005, then nothing until May. We cut no hay and our wheat crop was basically lost - though partially covered by insurance.

Pastures were in poor shape by late May. Then it rained a couple of inches. Since our country is basically pretty damn dry in a good year, we were getting grass. We decided to graze about 1100 acres of CRP which cost us $4788.

Late July and August rains have made the place look pretty good and we are going into fall in good shape.

I guess our problem is that one end of the county is quite different than the other - about 60 miles from end to end. When they use the LAP program, they just use a county average. If your area is really dry and the other is not, you won't get a thing.

We had to buy more hay than usual this year and it cost a whole lot more. Maybe we will sign up for LAP to pay for some of the hay.

It looks like it will take a couple of weeks for greed to overcome conscious this time.
 
I can sure use the help after such a dry spring. I see my county made the list. But north of me will get nothing.
 
alabama said:
I can sure use the help after such a dry spring. I see my county made the list. But north of me will get nothing.
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I just got off the phone with the FSA. She said it is going to be a state program.

Who would that be? The extension service?
 
I was at the FSA Tuesday for somthing else ( Trying to get paid for my corn on the NAP Program) and she told me that FSA would be the contact.
But I use a diferent FSA than you do Mike.

They want me to harvest 16 bushel corn. It cost me $40 an acre to have the combine harvest it. You do the math.
 
RoperAB said:
CattleRMe said:
Isn't this like a welfare program???
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Its only welfare when a poor person gets money from the government Tough Conservative Cowboy Ranchers dont recieve welfare :wink:
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It's welfare. It's in order to help financially strained people due to cercumstances in their lives. Drought and such.........It's a government handout involving no work to obtain it just a situation.
 
Denny said:
CattleRMe said:
Isn't this like a welfare program???
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No it's not.

On welfare they furnish you with food,shelter and medical.No work involved.Unless you call shopping for your $500 worth of groceries work.Or going to the doctor just because its free for every little ache or pain.Or calling out the apartment manager to change a light bulb because its not your job thats what welfare people are like.

When this is all said and done it won't amount to very much at all.

Most likely $30 per head on cows one tenth of the feed bill it will help some but wont be the saving grace.
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So you have to work to get it??? I just thought you had to live in a certain area. It's welfare guys. To answer your question if the place I live recieves the help also yep I'll be up there getting my part to. As my Dad says we'll be going to the FSA office for the welfare check.............
 
I see no connection between welfare and disater checks. We as ag producers are producing food for the world, many times at margins that approach 0%. Wouldn't it be wise for a society to help fiance those of us that keep the food on their tables. Although from glancing at the counties posted, I'm not sure we are even eligible, this after the driest 3 month (June, July and August) ever recorded in over 100 years of records. And the 2nd hottest month ever recorded. Very poor wheat, 800 acres adjusted at 2 bushel/acre. And almost no hay baled. Anyway don't understand how they figure out who's eligible and who isn't. Anybody who can explain this better I'm listening.
 
Faster horses said:
Call it what you want, whatever makes you feel GOOD.

Did you get up on the wrong side of the bed today? :? :???:
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No I didn't. I'm just tired of reading how wrong everyone seems to think that government programs are for children yet everyone seems ready to rush out and get their government drought check. The problem is yes in order to help children sometimes adults get a free ride but I would rather see an adult with a free ride and a full and warm child then a child starving and cold because society got to worried their parents life would be made to easy with some help.
 
mtrancher said:
I see no connection between welfare and disater checks. We as ag producers are producing food for the world, many times at margins that approach 0%. Wouldn't it be wise for a society to help fiance those of us that keep the food on their tables. Although from glancing at the counties posted, I'm not sure we are even eligible, this after the driest 3 month (June, July and August) ever recorded in over 100 years of records. And the 2nd hottest month ever recorded. Very poor wheat, 800 acres adjusted at 2 bushel/acre. And almost no hay baled. Anyway don't understand how they figure out who's eligible and who isn't. Anybody who can explain this better I'm listening.
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You honestly think because South Dakota and Nebraska are in drought like conditions the world isn't going to eat? We are but a small part of the food chain.

I see a total connection between the two both are government handouts. All you have to do is qualify for the program and the government hands out what you are to get. Everyone wants to seem to complain about a wic mother getting junk food but what about a rancher in a 40,000 vehicle going to get a drought check??? Why is that ok? :???:
 

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