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Draft dodgers shouldn't insult vets - period. Trump says captured vets are inferior to uncaptured vets? Like to hear Trump's derision of a pow that declined early release because it was out of order and going to be used by vc propaganda. I never cared for Trump very much, but outright disdain and contempt have replaced ambivalence.

http://www.politico.com/story/2015/07/trump-attacks-mccain-i-like-people-who-werent-captured-120317.html
 
Agreed. But I sure enjoy the way he gets liberals worked into a frenzy. Never seen a pre-election year as interesting as this one. The left keep getting lefter too..............................................
 
McCain is NOT the man he was during his time in the Hanoi Hilton. He was once a shining example of everything that was right with America. Now he's just a liberal knob polishing RINO who sold out his party and his country. I'm tired of his withered arse getting a pass for selling out just because he was a POW. He's a lot like our friend from Valley county. Same with former Nebraska Governor and US Senator Bob Kerrey...CMH recipient and big time sell out. Bobby got all the mileage there was to get out of that wooden leg of his, just like McCain being a POW. You'd think McCain would've been a bigger champion of veterans and veteran's rights...but he sold them out, too. He should just retire to Sedona and spend his wife's money.

Trump might not have much for brains, but I admire the fact he says what he thinks...because a lot of it needs to be said. As for McCain, like Jigs is so fond of saying, he's irrelevant.
 
loomixguy said:
McCain is NOT the man he was during his time in the Hanoi Hilton. He was once a shining example of everything that was right with America. Now he's just a liberal knob polishing RINO who sold out his party and his country. I'm tired of his withered arse getting a pass for selling out just because he was a POW. He's a lot like our friend from Valley county. Same with former Nebraska Governor and US Senator Bob Kerrey...CMH recipient and big time sell out. Bobby got all the mileage there was to get out of that wooden leg of his, just like McCain being a POW. You'd think McCain would've been a bigger champion of veterans and veteran's rights...but he sold them out, too. He should just retire to Sedona and spend his wife's money.

Trump might not have much for brains, but I admire the fact he says what he thinks...because a lot of it needs to be said. As for McCain, like Jigs is so fond of saying, he's irrelevant.
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Excellent post IMHO.
 
Let's have some examples on how McCain sold out his country. I have always been under the impression that he is a patriot.
 
I don't know when I first couldn't support McCain - the first I remember him he was the lone Republican member of the keating 5. That policy alone disqualified McCain in my mind. If Trump talked about this or immigration or any other McCain policy, that is fair and honorable discourse.

Deriding McCain's military sacrifice is dishonorable. And Trump using a privilege deferment to dodge what almost every teenager knew at the time was a scary, dangerous, and dubious war effort, and then insulting a vet is plain low down disgraceful. I find trumps dishonor the sort that should be settled at sunrise. And then the trump "you guys are so stupid I'll change what I said and you guys won't know the difference" plan insults everyone not named McCain.

I can't disagree with most criticisms of McCains Senate positions, nor can I disagree with the suggestion the sun rises in the east, but these issues are irrelevant to the issue of a privilege deferment deriding a pow's sacrifice. If Trump was familiar with honor, he'd puke before making such utterances.
 
Mike, when Reagan and Stockman and those guys tried to undo some of the bank deregulations they implemented, Charles Keating bought 5 guys in important positions to kill regulations. John glen, McCain, and some others killed the revisions and the bank/ S & L crisis resulted. Keating went to jail, Neil bush got splatter on him - I don't know if he was dirty.
 
Like our friend from up north, McCain has beat the war hero/POW horse plumb to death, and beyond. He is NOT the same man that was in the Hanoi Hilton, and he is a disgrace to the Republican party. I refuse to give him a pass on what he did almost 50 years ago.

Trump probably wasn't the right person to say what he said, but it NEEDED to be said, nonetheless. Calling your constituents "crazies"? Not very smart in my book, but McCain fired the first volley. He should resign and retire to Sedona. Nobody but the libs want him around anyway.
 
Some background: when Reagan took office, banks had a lot of money loaned out at 4% (low interest rates) from old loans. Then, in response to socialist policies of the carter debacle, interest rates climbed and climbed to almost 20%. But remember, banks were tied to old low interest loans. So, Reagan responded by allowing lenders to make some riskier loans. Later Reagan wanted to slow down the risky loans - worrying about integrity of the lending industry. Reagan couldn't get the revisions through congress.
 
The extensive report also said that McCain's "actions were not improper nor attended with gross negligence and did not reach the level of requiring institutional action against him....Senator McCain has violated no law of the United States or specific Rule of the United States Senate.
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Thee is also some talk that he sold out his country while a POW as well divulging military secrets. I'm sure he denies it.
 
Brad S said:
Some background: when Reagan took office, banks had a lot of money loaned out at 4% (low interest rates) from old loans. Then, in response to socialist policies of the carter debacle, interest rates climbed and climbed to almost 20%. But remember, banks were tied to old low interest loans. So, Reagan responded by allowing lenders to make some riskier loans. Later Reagan wanted to slow down the risky loans - worrying about integrity of the lending industry. Reagan couldn't get the revisions through congress.
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Actually Regan was pretty well handcuffed by the Community Reinvestment Act and deregulation requiring low quality "toxic" loans be made to non qualified applicants in low income areas. Most of the old low interest rate loans had been paid off or paid down and were GI and FHA loans which were at least guaranteed. many were bundled and sold at a loss. Home loans went to over 18% ARM's and consumer lending rates went to "all you can get" if your state had no interest rate ceiling. The only people borrowing at those rates were those that really had no plan to repay. CD rates were also through the roof so deposits continued to flood financial institutions driving most of the saving and loan association into receivership and most banks into mergers.
 
This comment about mccain shows a bit of trumps true colors... liberal to the core...

my bet is he will keep talking and acting like he is for the conservative values until it comes time for him to run as an independent.

then trump will hope to pull just enough votes away from the party's candidate. so hillery gets elected..
 
Steve said:
This comment about mccain shows a bit of trumps true colors... liberal to the core...

my bet is he will keep talking and acting like he is for the conservative values until it comes time for him to run as an independent.

then trump will hope to pull just enough votes away from the party's candidate. so hillery gets elected..
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I fear the same thing and it gives me cold chills.
 
Another side to the story. If the media can take something out of context or leave something out they damn sure will. Remember how they screwed with the George Zimmerman 911 call?

http://www.westernjournalism.com/watch-trump-brutally-scolds-matt-lauer-on-live-tv-during-heated-exchange-youre-the-media/?utm_source=Facebook&utm_medium=TPNNPages&utm_content=2015-07-20
 
Not that I really have a dog in the hunt but Trump could have gone after McCain on so many issues and left the question or even thanked him for his service and still got his message across
 
Trump actually said the opposite of what the Post lead sentence and video caption claim. The Post might have been able to get away stating that Trump "implied" McCain was not a war hero because McCain was captured, but even that would have been a subjective interpretation since Trump had actually stated the opposite.
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The Republican presidential candidate then highlighted a piece by Sharyl Attkisson, formerly of CBS News, which critiques a report by The Washington Post that says "McCain was not a war hero because he was captured by the North Vietnamese." This is part of Attkisson's conclusion:

Trump actually said the opposite of what the Post lead sentence and video caption claim. The Post might have been able to get away stating that Trump "implied" McCain was not a war hero because McCain was captured, but even that would have been a subjective interpretation since Trump had actually stated the opposite.
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Am I the only one troubled by Trump criticizing pubs 10 to 1 over the old hag?

While I am troubled by McCains amnesty position (I was against amnesty even when Trump was for it), isn't McCains position strikingly similar to hillary's? And between McCain and Hillary, who is running against the GOP nominee for president and who is nearly ready to retire? So either trump is fantastically misdirected like the cow dog that takes to running rabbits, or his agenda may not be as he pretends.
 
Btw, with the dishonest word parsing Trump is doing, it must be noted: Graham never called Trump a jackass. When Trumps actions are compared to that of a jack ass, that isn't the same as calling someone a jackass. Perhaps trumps infidelity to honor is the best way to combat such a dishonorable slob as Hillary?
 

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