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Electric dog collars?

You better stay away from that Lictricity boy,dum as you are no tellin what might happen,be ashamed you get elictrocuted,then Miss tam would hafta head south..................good luck
 
Big Muddy rancher said:
Any cow dog people out there using training collars on their cowdog?

Do they help?

Tell what you think.
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BMR,
We use them on our Catahoula/Blue Heeler cross dogs, they do help... if you do decide to try them....get good ones, ours have a range of 1 mile or 1 1/2, ( not 100% sure) don't get zap happy, hope that helps...let me know if you want to know more
 
We've used them also and are a great training tool. I also agree don't get the cheap ones they don't last.
 
We have a wireless fence that uses an electric collar. Works well, but it's not too good in the cold. I suppose a training collar like this wouldn't have the same problem with the cold killing batteries because the dog wouldn't wear it all the time.

I used to have a gadget that made a high frequency sound that would stop an agressive dog in it's tracks. It was amazing. I used to ride my bike past the neighbour's and the dog would run out and attack every time. He even leaped in the air and bounced off the back fender one day. I got the gadget, got on my bike and went for a ride. I let him get to the end of the driveway, told him "NO" hit the button, and he almost fell to the ground. It was hilarious! :D :D :D After about three more times of me telling him no, then using the gadget, all I had to do was say no, and he'd stop. After a couple of more days he didn't even look up when I went by. This is only for agressive dogs, but it sure worked.
 
I have a Tritronics brand that has two collars and one controller. I used two dogs and it was nice to control with one handheld. I carried it horseback and would work the dogs. One word of caution that I have learned is not to use it on soft hearted dogs, I used it on blue heelers. And, I had excellent luck. They savvy the Eeengleesh words "get back" and "stop".
 
nmhighdesert said:
I have a Tritronics brand that has two collars and one controller. I used two dogs and it was nice to control with one handheld. I carried it horseback and would work the dogs. One word of caution that I have learned is not to use it on soft hearted dogs, I used it on blue heelers. And, I had excellent luck. They savvy the Eeengleesh words "get back" and "stop".
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I was looking at the Tritronics two dog controller. I was wondering about a softer dog as the one dog I use is a softer type but still doesn't listen very good all the time. One issue that I would really like to stop is the one dog circles the horses alot and will jump at their noses. I hate that and he get admonished and he knows we don't like it but still does it. :x
 
nmhighdesert said:
I have a Tritronics brand that has two collars and one controller. I used two dogs and it was nice to control with one handheld. I carried it horseback and would work the dogs. One word of caution that I have learned is not to use it on soft hearted dogs, I used it on blue heelers. And, I had excellent luck. They savvy the Eeengleesh words "get back" and "stop".
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I agree with you about the "softhearted" dogs, the guy my husband works with has female who will lay down if you put a collar on her, she is normally very agressive but got one jolt too many and it ruined using a collar on her. We also use the 2 collar ,1 remote and got the waterproof kind.
 
An electric collar is by far THE best training tool you can possibly use! Of course you have to remember that I am married to one of (if not the) best bird dog trainers in the country :wink: We use them daily in our bird dog training so have more experience than most with them.

The key to using them is like any other training aid, introduce it correctly, and use it correctly. You can use an electric collar on the softest dog in the world IF it has been properly introduced to it. My border collie, Dolly, who was killed this fall, is the first stock dog I've used one on. I got her 9 years ago and she was the first 'heading' dog we'd ever had. She was very soft. I used the collar on her whenever we went out and she loved it! For years after I quit using it on her if she'd see me carrying a collar, she'd come and want me to put it on her.

If you want more info, we can talk about on this thread, or pm/email me.
Any of the TriTronics with the 1 mile range will work for you. Some have a 'tone' feature, which buzzes instead of shocking. We don't use that but have some clients who do and quite like that feature.
 
The tri tronics collars are great tools..Never use it when you are angry with the dog! Be sure the dog understands what you are doing with it. If you are teaching voice commands and the dog understands them but just ignores you...it will work. LIke stopping the dog from jumping at the horses nose..that will correct the problem fast, as the dog can associate the pain and the action immeditally. I you are trying to get the dog to do simple stuff like come to you when called...you must use a check line and call him to you and then reel him in. if he refuses a few times ...before you use the collar.... so he knows what the right response is ..but keep him on the check line till he gets it down! YOU can sure make a difference in a dog if you use good judgement and think through every situation before you shock him! YOU can also mess up a good dog if you do dumb things in the use of that collar.
Ross
 
Draggin "N" said:
The tri tronics collars are great tools..Never use it when you are angry with the dog! Be sure the dog understands what you are doing with it. If you are teaching voice commands and the dog understands them but just ignores you...it will work. LIke stopping the dog from jumping at the horses nose..that will correct the problem fast, as the dog can associate the pain and the action immeditally. I you are trying to get the dog to do simple stuff like come to you when called...you must use a check line and call him to you and then reel him in. if he refuses a few times ...before you use the collar.... so he knows what the right response is ..but keep him on the check line till he gets it down! YOU can sure make a difference in a dog if you use good judgement and think through every situation before you shock him! YOU can also mess up a good dog if you do dumb things in the use of that collar.
Ross
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Thanks for the info Ross. I have a Tritronics Classic 70 EXP 2 dog system coming. I hear you about using it while angry. I know we need to do some ground work before we get to the cattle with the collar. It will be nice to tune up the handle we have on the dogs.
 
Big Muddy rancher said:
nmhighdesert said:
I have a Tritronics brand that has two collars and one controller. I used two dogs and it was nice to control with one handheld. I carried it horseback and would work the dogs. One word of caution that I have learned is not to use it on soft hearted dogs, I used it on blue heelers. And, I had excellent luck. They savvy the Eeengleesh words "get back" and "stop".
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I was looking at the Tritronics two dog controller. I was wondering about a softer dog as the one dog I use is a softer type but still doesn't listen very good all the time. One issue that I would really like to stop is the one dog circles the horses alot and will jump at their noses. I hate that and he get admonished and he knows we don't like it but still does it. :x
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Your dog sounds like our Border Collie/Blue Heeler cross female who lays in the manger and - you guessed it - jumps up and snaps at the calves when they come in to eat. GGRRRRR, she makes me mad and after she does it, looks really sorry and promises to never do it again.

She is the epitome of obsessive/compulsive but you couldn't ask for a better natured and loving dog..
 
Big Muddy rancher said:
nmhighdesert said:
I have a Tritronics brand that has two collars and one controller. I used two dogs and it was nice to control with one handheld. I carried it horseback and would work the dogs. One word of caution that I have learned is not to use it on soft hearted dogs, I used it on blue heelers. And, I had excellent luck. They savvy the Eeengleesh words "get back" and "stop".
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I was looking at the Tritronics two dog controller. I was wondering about a softer dog as the one dog I use is a softer type but still doesn't listen very good all the time. One issue that I would really like to stop is the one dog circles the horses alot and will jump at their noses. I hate that and he get admonished and he knows we don't like it but still does it. :x
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I ran Tritronics for years in the bird dog and hunting dog biz - trials and guiding.

I would never be without one. BUt it MUST be a multi level power system.

Use the lower levels on all dogs as a reminder or guide - as well as on softer dogs and the higher levels on those with hard heads or requiring a full stop on fighting or running deer, etc.

Put it on your leg and try all levels - you will find they are not all bad - punishment levels can and will make a dog yelp - abuse it and it is abusing the dog.

Trust me - you do it right you - you will never go back to just a voice.

Some breeds I have used it on - Labs, Brittany Spaniels, Cocker Spaniels (hateful little dogs), Beagles, Walker and Fox Hounds, English Pointers and a couple more that escape me at present.

All dogs are different - some are real wusses and some are tough b*stards - size and breed mean nothing in this regard - each animal is an individual.

Be that as it may a collar is the best way to bring them to you, stop them from running animals, break up fights and making them mind in general.

Put the dummy on when they are around the house and yard.

Do this part right and eventually it can come off and they listen real good anyways. For times of excitment - hunting, killing times - you may need a collar to pull some dogs off - I am certain these systems would be ideal for cattle dog training.

Try to combine this with the use of a whistle for the dog when he gets out to that half mile range to a mile range and you got yourself a real keeper.

It is not cruel if used right - abuse the system and it can be a torture tool.

No one uses the system on my dogs but me - too easy for someone to get carried away.

And I never let someone use one of my systems on their dog unless I personally pull the trigger on them - with it strapped to their leg - that way they know what their dog is getting. And their dog better have had an electronic collar on before - otherwise I want to be the person doing the introducing - it is far eqasier to abuse than to use properly in my mind.

Still ......... despite all possible negatives ......

IMO - Best training aid for outdoor active dogs that can be found.

Cheers

BC
 
Nicky said:
An electric collar is by far THE best training tool you can possibly use! Of course you have to remember that I am married to one of (if not the) best bird dog trainers in the country :wink: We use them daily in our bird dog training so have more experience than most with them.

The key to using them is like any other training aid, introduce it correctly, and use it correctly. You can use an electric collar on the softest dog in the world IF it has been properly introduced to it. My border collie, Dolly, who was killed this fall, is the first stock dog I've used one on. I got her 9 years ago and she was the first 'heading' dog we'd ever had. She was very soft. I used the collar on her whenever we went out and she loved it! For years after I quit using it on her if she'd see me carrying a collar, she'd come and want me to put it on her.

If you want more info, we can talk about on this thread, or pm/email me.
Any of the TriTronics with the 1 mile range will work for you. Some have a 'tone' feature, which buzzes instead of shocking. We don't use that but have some clients who do and quite like that feature.
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Nicky

I have used one - many years ago - that had a tone feature and I used the tone feature to call the dog to me - I liked it for times that silence was necessary and distance was fairly large - great system. Now that I think on it I have no idea what I did with that system - I probably still have it in the shop somewhere. :-)

Have a good one

BC
 

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