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Home / Document Library / Press Releases / 2004 / April / 04/01/04 | Japan Beef Trade

Veneman-Zoellick Statement on Beef Trade with Japan
04/01/2004


Statement by Agriculture Secretary Ann M. Veneman and U. S. Trade Representative Robert B. Zoellick

April 1, 2004

"The United States is committed to resolving global trade issues based on science. On March 29, the Administration proposed, via a letter to Japanese Agriculture Minister Yoshiyuki Kamei, a U.S./Japan technical consultation on bovine spongiform encephalopathy (BSE) with the World Organization for Animal Health (OIE), the international standard setting body for animal diseases.

"Much has been learned in recent experiences with BSE and scientific consultations are warranted to enable trade in beef and beef products to resume. We have shared with all of our trading partners the results of our extensive investigation into BSE, including our aggressive response to an international panel of experts' recommendations.

"Japanese Ministry of Agriculture authorities have continued to insist that testing of all animals and removal of specific risk materials are conditions for entry of U.S. beef products in the Japanese market. International experts, as noted in the recent report of the international scientific panel that reviewed the U.S. system, agree there is no scientific basis for 100% testing.

"The most appropriate path at this point is for the scientific experts at the OIE to consult and agree upon measures that are based on science. We have assurances that the OIE would commit to an aggressive timetable to review a commonly accepted definition of BSE and related testing methodologies as well as a common definition of specified risk materials.

"We have submitted our system and measures to scrutiny by international experts and see no reason why Japan should be reluctant to do likewise.

"We are disappointed that the Japanese response to our proposal was conveyed through the press instead of engaging in constructive dialogue about the merits of the proposal. We urge the government of Japan to agree to an OIE consultation and to assure that its measures are consistent with its international commitments as a member of the World Trade Organization (WTO)."

Here's the link just in case you don't believe it:

http://www.ustr.gov/Document_Library/Press_Releases/2004/April/Veneman-Zoellick_Statement_on_Beef_Trade_with_Japan_printer.html
 
Sandhusker said:
Holy proved wrong again, Batman! SH needs to read this, too. (and then get somebody to explain it to him.)

Sorry, the topic is "For Agman Only". SH is not allowed. :lol: :lol:

I posted this to SH one time but he remained in denial. Months and months ago. :???: :???: :???: :???: :???: :???: :???:
 
Mike said:
Sandhusker said:
Holy proved wrong again, Batman! SH needs to read this, too. (and then get somebody to explain it to him.)

Sorry, the topic is "For Agman Only". SH is not allowed. :lol: :lol:

I posted this to SH one time but he remained in denial. Months and months ago. :???: :???: :???: :???: :???: :???: :???:

He's STILL in denial. Notice one of his posts this morning, "If Japan would have demanded tested beef...." But he'll still tell us his only bias is the truth. :roll: :lol:
 
Sandhusker said:
Mike said:
Sandhusker said:
Holy proved wrong again, Batman! SH needs to read this, too. (and then get somebody to explain it to him.)

Sorry, the topic is "For Agman Only". SH is not allowed. :lol: :lol:

I posted this to SH one time but he remained in denial. Months and months ago. :???: :???: :???: :???: :???: :???: :???:

He's STILL in denial. Notice one of his posts this morning, "If Japan would have demanded tested beef...." But he'll still tell us his only bias is the truth. :roll: :lol:

Hey Sandhusker, Here is a simple,multiple-choice question.....

Japan re-imposed its ban on US beef because...A) it was not BSE tested
B) a shipment contained prohibited (spinal) material.
 
Thanks for the post Mike. I was not aware of that comment. It appears a contradiction with their most recent comments.
 
Sandhusker said:
Mike said:
Sandhusker said:
Holy proved wrong again, Batman! SH needs to read this, too. (and then get somebody to explain it to him.)

Sorry, the topic is "For Agman Only". SH is not allowed. :lol: :lol:

I posted this to SH one time but he remained in denial. Months and months ago. :???: :???: :???: :???: :???: :???: :???:

He's STILL in denial. Notice one of his posts this morning, "If Japan would have demanded tested beef...." But he'll still tell us his only bias is the truth. :roll: :lol:

Mike's post was much later than my post, a mere fact you missed as usual. Also, if testing was a true requirement then why did they agree to a contact that does not involve testing? Who is in denial?
 
agman said:
Thanks for the post Mike. I was not aware of that comment. It appears a contradiction with their most recent comments.

Whatever. You were adamant that they never asked for testing and were arrogant and condecending toward those who connected the dots and figured out that they had. Turns out you were wrong, wrong, wrong.
 
TimH said:
Sandhusker said:
Mike said:
Sorry, the topic is "For Agman Only". SH is not allowed. :lol: :lol:

I posted this to SH one time but he remained in denial. Months and months ago. :???: :???: :???: :???: :???: :???: :???:

He's STILL in denial. Notice one of his posts this morning, "If Japan would have demanded tested beef...." But he'll still tell us his only bias is the truth. :roll: :lol:

Hey Sandhusker, Here is a simple,multiple-choice question.....

Japan re-imposed its ban on US beef because...A) it was not BSE tested
B) a shipment contained prohibited (spinal) material.

B

Here's a question for you; In light of this "new" information, do you think the Japanese market could of been opened sooner?
Yes
No
 
Sandblaster,

JAPAN ACCEPTED BEEF WITHOUT BSE TESTING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

That ACTION trumps any TALK!

Are you in denial of this COLD HARD FACT?

You blamers just can't accept the truth.

The fact remains, there is no scientific justification for 100% BSE testing.

The fact remains, Creekstone's tests would not reveal BSE prions in cattle under 24 months of age even if they were there.

GET ON WITH YOUR SHALLOW BLAMING LIVES!


Nowhere did Agman or I say that Japanese authorities did not want 100% BSE testing. What we both said was neither of us HAD SEEN ANY PROOF of where Japanese authorities would have allowed 100% BSE testing. You dumb asses can't get anything on us at word value so you have to pretend we said something we didn't. True to your pathetic deceptive ways again.


~SH~
 
~SH~ said:
Sandblaster,

JAPAN ACCEPTED BEEF WITHOUT BSE TESTING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

That ACTION trumps any TALK!

Are you in denial of this COLD HARD FACT?

You blamers just can't accept the truth.

The fact remains, there is no scientific justification for 100% BSE testing.

The fact remains, Creekstone's tests would not reveal BSE prions in cattle under 24 months of age even if they were there.

GET ON WITH YOUR SHALLOW BLAMING LIVES!


Nowhere did Agman or I say that Japanese authorities did not want 100% BSE testing. What we both said was neither of us HAD SEEN ANY PROOF of where Japanese authorities would have allowed 100% BSE testing. You dumb asses can't get anything on us at word value so you have to pretend we said something we didn't. True to your pathetic deceptive ways again.


~SH~

JAPAN IS NOT ACCEPTING U.S. BEEF WITHOUT BSE TESTING NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

That ACTION trumps any TALK!

Are you in denial of this COLD HARD FACT?

You packer backers just can't accept the truth.
 
JAPAN IS NOT ACCEPTING U.S. BEEF WITHOUT BSE TESTING NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

SO WHAT???

The only reason they are not now is because a packing company on the east coast did not abide by our agreement with Japan. Japan accepted NON TESTED beef after we had BSE in the U.S.

That fact trumps any stupid argument you can come up with for turning back the hands of time and deceiving Japanese consumers with a BSE test that won't reveal BSE prions in cattle under 24 months of age even if they were there.

Consumer fraud would be right up your deceptive alley.


~SH~
 
~SH~ said:
JAPAN IS NOT ACCEPTING U.S. BEEF WITHOUT BSE TESTING NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

SO WHAT???

The only reason they are not now is because a packing company on the east coast did not abide by our agreement with Japan. Japan accepted NON TESTED beef after we had BSE in the U.S.

That fact trumps any stupid argument you can come up with for turning back the hands of time and deceiving Japanese consumers with a BSE test that won't reveal BSE prions in cattle under 24 months of age even if they were there.

Consumer fraud would be right up your deceptive alley.


~SH~

You really do want everyone to share your delusions, don't you, SH?
 
Big Muddy rancher said:
Funny that Japan is taking untested Canadian beef. It must not present the same Genuine Risk of Death that BSE infested USA beef does.

CFIA didn't get caught hiding a BSE case either. Nor did they get caught trying to cover up a positive with meat that got shipped. Nor have they been caught using the wrong tests. The list goes on................

It ain't "funny" though. It's a damn shame is what it is. :mad:
 
Mike said:
Big Muddy rancher said:
Funny that Japan is taking untested Canadian beef. It must not present the same Genuine Risk of Death that BSE infested USA beef does.

CFIA didn't get caught hiding a BSE case either. Nor did they get caught trying to cover up a positive with meat that got shipped. Nor have they been caught using the wrong tests. The list goes on................

It ain't "funny" though. It's a damn shame is what it is. :mad:


Where is your documentation for those allegations?

MRJ
 
MRJ said:
Mike said:
Big Muddy rancher said:
Funny that Japan is taking untested Canadian beef. It must not present the same Genuine Risk of Death that BSE infested USA beef does.

CFIA didn't get caught hiding a BSE case either. Nor did they get caught trying to cover up a positive with meat that got shipped. Nor have they been caught using the wrong tests. The list goes on................

It ain't "funny" though. It's a damn shame is what it is. :mad:


Where is your documentation for those allegations?

MRJ

If you would read the newspapers MRJ, you would know these things. Have you been hitting the gin again?
 
Mike said:
MRJ said:
Mike said:
CFIA didn't get caught hiding a BSE case either. Nor did they get caught trying to cover up a positive with meat that got shipped. Nor have they been caught using the wrong tests. The list goes on................

It ain't "funny" though. It's a damn shame is what it is. :mad:


Where is your documentation for those allegations?

MRJ

If you would read the newspapers MRJ, you would know these things. Have you been hitting the gin again?

Mike, thats what I was thinking--If shes not trying to be cute :roll: - she definitely has a problem...These allegations have been documented on here 100 times...Either she has NCBA induced selective memory or she better hope BSE tester develops the Alzheimers test fast :wink:
 

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