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Heat Detection

alabama said:
I run a small seedstock operation and AI all I can. I then run one of my bulls in to clean up andy cows that did not take AI.
You know producing seedstock is great but when it comes right down to it we are still just cow-calf guys and every cow has to give me a calf every year. I can't aford to run open cows seedstock of not.
With 15 cows and selling seed stock you should have yearling bulls every year so just hold one back each year to clead up your cows and sell him a long yearling when he is done. Use a calf whos momma you are sure you berd AI.

That is more or less my plan at this time, I was merely looking for alterntitive
heat detection methods used, as opposed to merely relying on riding and being rid!
 
We bring our cows in at night and sort what we need to breed for in the morning.. Then if there is anything we need to breed at night we sort and let the rest out.. And check at noon in the pasture... I've found that you kinda get a system and that cows that are related come into heat together. Also with leaving the cows in the correl there is less manure to deal with. :wink:
 
EbarS said:
alabama said:
I run a small seedstock operation and AI all I can. I then run one of my bulls in to clean up andy cows that did not take AI.
You know producing seedstock is great but when it comes right down to it we are still just cow-calf guys and every cow has to give me a calf every year. I can't aford to run open cows seedstock of not.
With 15 cows and selling seed stock you should have yearling bulls every year so just hold one back each year to clead up your cows and sell him a long yearling when he is done. Use a calf whos momma you are sure you berd AI.

That is more or less my plan at this time, I was merely looking for alterntitive
heat detection methods used, as opposed to merely relying on riding and being rid!

Well, I apologize for trying to tell ya how to run your herd's breeding program. It just happens to be my area of expertise, and I can get going on the whole picture really quick. But again, it really does have to be the big picture of getting the most cows bred in the most efficient way possible. Oh, and as for strictly detecting heats, Kamar's have their problems, Estrotect work if you sync, but if you breed on natural heats like us, just saddle the pony two or three times a day, but usually in the cool of morning and the cool of night and watch cows. Riding and being ridden is about the surest signs. All these "detection aids" only record if a cow's being ridden or not. But, you can watch for mucus discharges, chin resting and cows that are in the "hot group" that might be coming in heat. Keep a notebook with you and note the suspects, write down those who are iffy, and pull the for sure heats to breed about 12 hours later. Simple, ain't it?
 
MYT Farms said:
EbarS said:
alabama said:
I run a small seedstock operation and AI all I can. I then run one of my bulls in to clean up andy cows that did not take AI.
You know producing seedstock is great but when it comes right down to it we are still just cow-calf guys and every cow has to give me a calf every year. I can't aford to run open cows seedstock of not.
With 15 cows and selling seed stock you should have yearling bulls every year so just hold one back each year to clead up your cows and sell him a long yearling when he is done. Use a calf whos momma you are sure you berd AI.

That is more or less my plan at this time, I was merely looking for alterntitive
heat detection methods used, as opposed to merely relying on riding and being rid!

Well, I apologize for trying to tell ya how to run your herd's breeding program. It just happens to be my area of expertise, and I can get going on the whole picture really quick. But again, it really does have to be the big picture of getting the most cows bred in the most efficient way possible. Oh, and as for strictly detecting heats, Kamar's have their problems, Estrotect work if you sync, but if you breed on natural heats like us, just saddle the pony two or three times a day, but usually in the cool of morning and the cool of night and watch cows. Riding and being ridden is about the surest signs. All these "detection aids" only record if a cow's being ridden or not. But, you can watch for mucus discharges, chin resting and cows that are in the "hot group" that might be coming in heat. Keep a notebook with you and note the suspects, write down those who are iffy, and pull the for sure heats to breed about 12 hours later. Simple, ain't it?
 
hopalong said:
MYT Farms said:
EbarS said:
That is more or less my plan at this time, I was merely looking for alterntitive
heat detection methods used, as opposed to merely relying on riding and being rid!

Well, I apologize for trying to tell ya how to run your herd's breeding program. It just happens to be my area of expertise, and I can get going on the whole picture really quick. But again, it really does have to be the big picture of getting the most cows bred in the most efficient way possible. Oh, and as for strictly detecting heats, Kamar's have their problems, Estrotect work if you sync, but if you breed on natural heats like us, just saddle the pony two or three times a day, but usually in the cool of morning and the cool of night and watch cows. Riding and being ridden is about the surest signs. All these "detection aids" only record if a cow's being ridden or not. But, you can watch for mucus discharges, chin resting and cows that are in the "hot group" that might be coming in heat. Keep a notebook with you and note the suspects, write down those who are iffy, and pull the for sure heats to breed about 12 hours later. Simple, ain't it?

It is not that I do not have any experence MYT I was merely picking minds as for alternitive methods
Saddling up is not an option!
I know how to watch and when to watch for cows being ridden, and for mucus and swollen vulva, however it seems that maximum heat cycles appear between at the most incoinvient times as I am sure you are aware,
I thank you for your input and your expertize.

Hopalong, why are you????? Never mind. Yes, heats come at problem times. Like I said, Estrotect are handy as heck if all your cows are synced, but they sure do wear off after a while.
 
MYT Farms said:
hopalong said:
MYT Farms said:
Well, I apologize for trying to tell ya how to run your herd's breeding program. It just happens to be my area of expertise, and I can get going on the whole picture really quick. But again, it really does have to be the big picture of getting the most cows bred in the most efficient way possible. Oh, and as for strictly detecting heats, Kamar's have their problems, Estrotect work if you sync, but if you breed on natural heats like us, just saddle the pony two or three times a day, but usually in the cool of morning and the cool of night and watch cows. Riding and being ridden is about the surest signs. All these "detection aids" only record if a cow's being ridden or not. But, you can watch for mucus discharges, chin resting and cows that are in the "hot group" that might be coming in heat. Keep a notebook with you and note the suspects, write down those who are iffy, and pull the for sure heats to breed about 12 hours later. Simple, ain't it?

It is not that I do not have any experence MYT I was merely picking minds as for alternitive methods
Saddling up is not an option!
I know how to watch and when to watch for cows being ridden, and for mucus and swollen vulva, however it seems that maximum heat cycles appear between at the most incoinvient times as I am sure you are aware,
I thank you for your input and your expertize.

Hopalong, why are you????? Never mind. Yes, heats come at problem times. Like I said, Estrotect are handy as heck if all your cows are synced, but they sure do wear off after a while.


Dang who would have thought that EbarS was just another hopalong clone.
 
Bullhauler said:
MYT Farms said:
hopalong said:
It is not that I do not have any experence MYT I was merely picking minds as for alternitive methods
Saddling up is not an option!
I know how to watch and when to watch for cows being ridden, and for mucus and swollen vulva, however it seems that maximum heat cycles appear between at the most incoinvient times as I am sure you are aware,
I thank you for your input and your expertize.

Hopalong, why are you????? Never mind. Yes, heats come at problem times. Like I said, Estrotect are handy as heck if all your cows are synced, but they sure do wear off after a while.


Dang who would have thought that EbarS was just another hopalong clone.

Yep-- and caught by the kid before he could change his post...Good work MYT.... :wink:
 
I have a question for you Hoppy. What is there to gain by using different name? You would have had your answer using your old name. Seems a waste of time and energy to go to that effort.
 
As a younger woman I was very fortunate to be involved in two large and sucessful AI breeding programs. Both programs did over 1000 heifers a year and it keep me on a horse and loving what I was doing.

Both programs included heat detecting that included us sitting out on horses watching them early morning, before lunch, after lunch, afternoon, and then again in the evening. We then quietly sorted them out and it my opinion it was the quiet easy handling of the cattle from that first sign of heat thru the AI barn that helped make for high conception rates.

At home we watched for heat the same way.

My brother while employed by a university used some of the other methods and still also believes in the old fashioned way we grew up around.
 
Hire my kids they heat detect cows we pass on the highway lol. Drain the gas from the ATV's, take the batteries out of the prod and tie up the dogs and most A'I programs are fun. We still do the ride and pull deal-we shut the gates to water at night and open them at daylight-makes gathering pretty easy.
 
Big Muddy rancher said:
per said:
I have a question for you Hoppy. What is there to gain by using different name? You would have had your answer using your old name. Seems a waste of time and energy to go to that effort.

Did you ever get an answer?
No. Seems as mind boggling as the weather forecast.
 
per said:
Big Muddy rancher said:
per said:
I have a question for you Hoppy. What is there to gain by using different name? You would have had your answer using your old name. Seems a waste of time and energy to go to that effort.

Did you ever get an answer?
No. Seems as mind boggling as the weather forecast.

I was trying toi clean up my act!
Not too well thought of becauseof some of my comments on PB, and one moderater on here has slamed me in other forums when I itried to ask ligitmate questions,so I thought maybe!!!! Oh well antoher failed attempt to get away from his hatered of me
 
hopalong said:
per said:
Big Muddy rancher said:
Did you ever get an answer?
No. Seems as mind boggling as the weather forecast.

I was trying toi clean up my act!
Not too well thought of becauseof some of my comments on PB, and one moderater on here has slamed me in other forums when I itried to ask ligitmate questions,so I thought maybe!!!! Oh well antoher failed attempt to get away from his hatered of me

I think you should have just stuck with hopalong and you would have still got the same answers. Kinda put you in a bad light. With everything else that's been going on. :?
 

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