So are you saying that the reason some Americans wanted to keep the border closed was for financial reasons and not fear of BSE?Oldtimer said:Big Muddy rancher said:Sandhusker said:A friend sold some cows in Martin, SD last week and was disappointed with his check - less than $500 for a couple of 3 year olds. The manager told him the cow market was down because everybody was worried about the Canadian deal. I'm not making this up.
So your telling us you do make up stuff? :wink:
Of course everybody is worried about Canadian cattle coming down. R-CALF has made sure they would be. R-CALF created paranoia and it has hurt your cattle markets just like rumors on the stock market.
It didn't take R-CALF to create any paranoia-- most can remember the years of the Canadian cattle coming down- and the prices at $15-20 and the buyers telling everyone that was because the slaughter house parking lots were lined up with truckloads of Canadian cows....
And they remember the "record" high prices that happened right after the border was closed - which definitely showed the negative effect the Canadian cattle have on the market....[/quote]
Yanuck said:Oldtimer said:Big Muddy rancher said:
So your telling us you do make up stuff? :wink:
Of course everybody is worried about Canadian cattle coming down. R-CALF has made sure they would be. R-CALF created paranoia and it has hurt your cattle markets just like rumors on the stock market.
It didn't take R-CALF to create any paranoia-- most can remember the years of the Canadian cattle coming down- and the prices at $15-20 and the buyers telling everyone that was because the slaughter house parking lots were lined up with truckloads of Canadian cows....
And they remember the "record" high prices that happened right after the border was closed - which definitely showed the negative effect the Canadian cattle have on the market....[/quote]
So are you saying that the reason some Americans wanted to keep the border closed was for financial reasons and not fear of BSE?
Yep in ways-because the BSE risk is an economic one also...I don't know about any others, but I sure do think it is an economical risk too... This is America-- and our country/government and tax paid bureaucrats should be supporting Americans and American business first-and protecting/listening to American consumers- before we start worrying about foreign countries- or foreign imports from any Podunk country of the world...If we had done/were doing that our US economic sitution wouldn't be in the septic tank right now.....The dangers of BSE and higher risk of Canadian cattle/beef will not help the US demand situation and could unduly endanger the long term economic viability of the US industry that the Canucks have been hanging on to the hind teat of for too long....
It appears that the NCBA/AMI/USDA argument that if we accept OIE guidelines and accept Canadian beef- so will the rest of the world is about the same as the rest of their BS-- just that--pure BS.... :shock: :roll: :wink: What will Japan/Korea/Asia/ and the rest of our trading markets say when the next Canuck positive cow shows up.... :???: How much will opening the border affect US demand, now that every consumer group is coming out aginst it and every paper in the country is running articles about USDA endangering consumers by importing higher risk UNLABELED beef/cattle-- that they are allowing to be passed off as US product :???:
11/21/2007 12:54:00 PM
Japan Snubs U.S. Beef Again
Despite having in its hands the same scientific data that prompted the World Organization for Animal Health (OIE) to classify the United States as a controlled-risk region for bovine spongiform encephalopathy, Japan continues to stonewall Washington on its repeated pleas for Tokyo to adhere to OIE guidelines.
The latest snub came in Rome, where acting Agriculture Secretary Chuck Conner prodded Japanese Senior Farm Vice Minister Masahiro Imamura during talks on the sidelines of a meeting of the UN's Food and Agriculture Organization.
Imamura told Conner that Japan's decision on revising its protocols for imports of U.S. beef will be "based on scientific evidence" and "on condition the safety of the food for the Japanese people is ensured," an anonymous official with the Ministry of Agriculture, Forestry and Fisheries said, according to Kyodo News.
The same went for President Bush last Friday, when he pressed the issue with Japanese Prime Minister Yasuo Fukuda during a summit in Washington.
Asked whether Japan has had ample time to review the OIE data and at what point Tokyo is in its review process, USDA Press Secretary Keith Williams told Meatingplace.com, "I think your questions are good ones — and ones you might direct toward the Japanese."
At least Japan is consistent. In crafting a free-trade agreement with the Association of Southeast Asian Nations on Tuesday, Tokyo agreed to eliminate tariffs on 90 percent of ASEAN imports, but beef, among other agricultural products, would remain protected.
Source: Tom Johnston on 11/21/2007 for Meatingplace.com