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I want to work on a ranch!

I'll add my two bits here.

In 1998 my long-time employee moved on to greener pastures and I was without help only weeks before haying season. Our local cattle association keeps lists of people looking for work and vice-versa. In the course of checking out some of them, I found a young girl with a fresh degree in Animal Science. I couldn't have cared less about the degree, but she impressed me with her work ethic. I hired her for the summer with the option to continue on past that if everything worked out.

This girl wasn't much bigger than you, MissHolly and she was replacing a guy 6' 2" with big hands. She wasn't able to physically do the same work, but this girl proved to be one of the best workers I've ever had. She had never been outside the city limits before and her college degree didn't help her much with driving a tractor, operating a baler, fixing fence, riding horseback or feeding cattle, so she had to learn everything from scratch. She was very tough mentally and she gave me 100% in everything she did. We learned how to "work around" her physical limitations and lack of brute strength. No matter how miserable a day might become or how late it was when we finished, she never failed to ask me before she went home, "Is there anything else you'd like me to do?" I liked that!

Her biggest challenge was in "thinking outside the city limits". She had trouble finding her way around in big country without street signs or a road map. But she tried hard and did a lot of work for me. Before the first year was up, it was her decision to go back home and try to get into Vet school. I too realized that it wasn't meant to be a long term position.

What I'm telling you is this: Give it a try if you really want to. You don't need a fancy college degree, but you must be willing to work hard, learn fast and be willing to give extra effort in all jobs. Never be afraid to ask a dumb question and be certain that you understand what you have been asked to do. Your attiude will determine your success.

Now, how do you go about it? There have been many good suggestions here and most any of them could work for you. My suggestion is that you attend an Ag school to learn the basics first. There may be many schools like this, but I have corresponded with one in Joliet, IL that has a degree in "Agriculture Production and Management". After 3 1/2 semesters of classroom instruction, they help place their students as "student-trainees" with farms or ranches that suit their needs and interests. I could give you information on how to contact them if you'd like. Heck, you could probably "Google" all the available schools and choose one that suits you.

At your age, any dream can become a reality if you want it bad enough. There is no shame in giving it a try even if you find that it isn't what you really want later on.

GOOD LUCK!!!
 
You know we were doing pretty good. But you gals know you would have been disapointed if we hadn't livened it up a bit. :D :D



Jigs maybe you could get a job on a cruise ship for Gays. :wink:
 
Joliet eh JF... NOw I am going to be scratching my head about what school that is (Going to be in Joliet on Christmas after all)......

Sometimes I think city people who are willing to learn and have a wee bit of talent might be more helpful than country folk who already know everything (Even when they don't).... Of course, its best not to have to train someone to run a baler when you barely know how to do it yourself :oops: Ahh, learning from experience, the only way to make a two hour job take 8.
 
Not sure if it was mentioned, I did not have time to read every single suggestion. But one thing you could consider is trying to get a Job at a Vet Clinic. Would help you to be around animals, hopefully a vet that works on cattle and horses.

College for sure is a good choice.

Moving to an area that increases your chances, like maybe one of the Midwestern States, get yourself in a rural area.

Maybe pursuing a job in some ag related field would get you some experiance and connected. Like a Semen distributor.

Maybe looking for some Job at a Tractor Dealer, anything that would get you closer and some experiance going in the right direction.

Just remember that most any starting job does not pay much in Ag field and sometimes it pays less as you get deeper into it. :lol:
 
Big Muddy rancher said:
You know we were doing pretty good. But you gals know you would have been disapointed if we hadn't livened it up a bit. :D :D



Jigs maybe you could get a job on a cruise ship for Gays. :wink:
I am afraid that would make my banana wilt!!!

Mrs Jigs thinks that you are inviting me to go with you on the cruise
 
I don't know if you are interested in a small college setting but here is probably the best money spent in my area http://www.southeast.edu/ If you look at the Beatrice campus they have several really great programs. They have programs in animals, mechanics and business to name a few.The classes are set up that you go to class for a set amount of time and then you have an intership to complete the course. I know of one guy who got an internship to Austrailia several yrs back. They have people come from literally all around the world to attend school there. The cost isn't very high considering they are a 2yr college. I know many people that have been there and done very well for themselves because of the knowlege and friends they met there. If I can help you with names or numbers let me know I sure can try. I didn't attend college there but after seeing and hearing how good the programs are I can see it would've helped me a lot. Fact is I have thought about going back to school and getting a degree there but with a family and so on and so on I just don't see it working very well...
 
About a college degree
Around here your looking at big money to go to college.
What is the point in spending all that money for an ag degree unless you already own land or unless your eventually going to inherit some land?
Ag jobs dont pay enough to justify it. Like you will never make enough in agriculture working for someone else to ever get a head enough to ever get your own outfit.
Wouldnt it make more sense to get a college degree in something else? Example become a Vet. Atleast someday you should be able to get your own business going.
Im not trying to discourage anybody but I think you should actually work in a farm/ranch industry to see if you like it before you borrow a bunch of money to get an ag degree.
 
Like you AB, I thought those with ag degrees were wasting time just
to wind up with ranch jobs. It wasn't until we got into our mineral business, that I realized how many doors open for you when you have some kind of ag degree. Nutritionists, drug reps, fieldmen or women, sales field, consultants, vet techs to name the ones that roll right off the top of my head. It has been an eye-opener.

I think ag is a good thing to go in to. Less and less people know much about it. I remember looking at projected industry shortages and the
ag field was one of those that was projected to have a shortage
of knowledgeable people.

A little ranch gal that just got home from Oklahoma on Christmas
break, is now a Certified Equine Massage Therapist. She also
builds websites. A local college is looking at her to start a class
in Equine Massage. Lots of doors opening for that little gal. She's
pretty cool.
 
Faster horses said:
Like you AB, I thought those with ag degrees were wasting time just
to wind up with ranch jobs. It wasn't until we got into our mineral business, that I realized how many doors open for you when you have some kind of ag degree. Nutritionists, drug reps, fieldmen or women, sales field, consultants, vet techs to name the ones that roll right off the top of my head. It has been an eye-opener.

I think ag is a good thing to go in to. Less and less people know much about it. I remember looking at projected industry shortages and the
ag field was one of those that was projected to have a shortage
of knowledgeable people.

A little ranch gal that just got home from Oklahoma on Christmas
break, is now a Certified Equine Massage Therapist. She also
builds websites. A local college is looking at her to start a class
in Equine Massage. Lots of doors opening for that little gal. She's
pretty cool.

I agree! The money is in the types of professions you mentioned. If a person goes to college just to get training to go be a cow hand on a ranch it might not be good money spent since they do not generally pay very good.

But there is a wide range of Ag related professions that hold their own financially. So many areas that many of us over look. When I went to college I wanted to be a Ag Journalist and work for a Breed Journal. If my kid was wanting to major in Ag at college I would steer them more towards some of those you mentioned. The Ag field can really use Business Majors that have a background in Ag areas.

If a person was just wanting to work on a farm in general and there is nothing wrong with that! They could consider an A&M Junior College with a two year course in Ranch Management. I would suggest the best out there NEO A&M in Miami OK :wink:

Back to the original poster you could maybe look for a job at a Stock Yard part time to get your feet wet.
 
Judith said:
Welcome Miss Holly,
Well if ya want to be treated like the boys here are some tips :)

Ride better, but dont flaunt it. Work hard and you'll earn your dues, just like the boys. Don't yap on about how you can do the same amount of work etc. Just prove it. Respect is earned by gettin out there and doing it. If there is anything a male crew hates it's " a chick with something to prove". ( sorry if that sounded bad but I think ya get my meaning :) Hard work will get you the position you desire. In return respect your boss, a yes sir how high with a smile on your face will get you everywhere you want to go.
8) And that came out of a ladies mouth-she is right on-do as she say's and yu can't go wrong. Ride for the brand!
 
Faster horses said:
Like you AB, I thought those with ag degrees were wasting time just
to wind up with ranch jobs. It wasn't until we got into our mineral business, that I realized how many doors open for you when you have some kind of ag degree. Nutritionists, drug reps, fieldmen or women, sales field, consultants, vet techs to name the ones that roll right off the top of my head. It has been an eye-opener.

I think ag is a good thing to go in to. Less and less people know much about it. I remember looking at projected industry shortages and the
ag field was one of those that was projected to have a shortage
of knowledgeable people.

A little ranch gal that just got home from Oklahoma on Christmas
break, is now a Certified Equine Massage Therapist. She also
builds websites. A local college is looking at her to start a class
in Equine Massage. Lots of doors opening for that little gal. She's
pretty cool.

Your probable right about the ag degree. I do know that with horses a lot of people take two years of Equine Science at considerable expense just to end up working for $8 to $10 an hour for some trainer. Plus they really didnt need the two years of equine science to get the job in the first place. But with other ag courses its probable different.
Its to bad a degree has to cost so much. I would love to go back to school.
 
Awwww you guys are freakin nice :D
Thanks so much for all your advice and what not, I wanted to quote a few of you and write some responses but there was quite a few so im gonna go on a liitle rant..
OK, someone said something about the "size" thing, I know thats probly going to be my biggest obsticle cause I know im not that big, I thought I was strong too....(I got my dad a weight bench for christmas, couldent even lift 60lbs.) and even at work im the shortest person there. and my stats were pretty much close th that one girls 5'1" and about 100 lbs. Im still not gonna let a little bitty thing like this ruin my goal.

And I know that this isnt going to be an easy job, it'll be tough. I hate..HATE! easy jobs, I want a job ware ill always be busy doing something, moveing around, I work at a store, I was there 3 weeks and got promoted to Bakerey, Im lifting heavy stuff all day: pots pans, box's of mix, base, doing frozen load, lifting more boxs of stuff, I mean im always busy im pretty much on the go from 8-4:30. Ive lost 10lbs seince ive been there and I actuly have muscles on my arms now :wink:
its pretty cool, my boss wants to promote me to a job ware ill be standing, pretty much doing notheing all day, i cant do that its just not me.

I do kinda live out in the "country" area out here I guess I just got to be a little bit more presestant with my going about the ranch thing. And I do wanna look into the whole school thing. Hopefully itll go well. And I hope the ranch job that im thinking of will end up being everything im hopeing for. Like i said i know it wont be easy.

i just wanna thank you guys again for all that was said.
 
Miss Holly,

Tell ya what.....There's tractors for a good reason....Seriously......I was talking to a friend about all the guys I see at the Chiropractors and he said, "I never have had back trouble"...Then we realized he used tractors for a lot of stuff even as a kid.....Here's the deal...We are dealing with things, (Feed, equipment and animals) that will tear a body up....Unless we use our Brains and leverage advantages......I'll take someone that is good with equipment and esy on it anyday over someone that tries to muscle thier way through everything...

You seriously want this? In Oregon, there is a college in Pendleton called Blue Mountain Community College.A great hands on place.....Nathan Wells is an instructor there that does a great job..There's also Ranches around....I really wish I had a spot on my place for you to give this a try.....I learned long ago charachter and the willingness to try and listen are huge keys.....My Partner and I just aren't there yet as far as size of operation...

Good luck....And if you try and it doesn't work, I respect a person that gave a dream a shot and found out it wasn't what they wanted a lot more than someone whaccepts thier circumstances as unchangable...

Good Luck,

PPRM
 
PPRM said:
Miss Holly,

Tell ya what.....There's tractors for a good reason....Seriously......I was talking to a friend about all the guys I see at the Chiropractors and he said, "I never have had back trouble"...Then we realized he used tractors for a lot of stuff even as a kid.....Here's the deal...We are dealing with things, (Feed, equipment and animals) that will tear a body up....Unless we use our Brains and leverage advantages......I'll take someone that is good with equipment and esy on it anyday over someone that tries to muscle thier way through everything...

You seriously want this? In Oregon, there is a college in Pendleton called Blue Mountain Community College.A great hands on place.....Nathan Wells is an instructor there that does a great job..There's also Ranches around....I really wish I had a spot on my place for you to give this a try.....I learned long ago charachter and the willingness to try and listen are huge keys.....My Partner and I just aren't there yet as far as size of operation...

Good luck....And if you try and it doesn't work, I respect a person that gave a dream a shot and found out it wasn't what they wanted a lot more than someone whaccepts thier circumstances as unchangable...

Good Luck,

PPRM

I just have to get some machinerey experince, ware abouts in Oregon is pendelton? I lived up in Oregon for 3 months after I graduated from high school, and I loved it. I moved back home october 18th 05' and got a job back in ca October 25th 05' Ive been working ever since and ive been trying to save my money so i can move up there and start my life allready and get a career in ranching, I seriously think itd be fun...tough but fun. Are you a rancher?
 
H :D ere is an idea, I have not read the entire thread so maybe it has already been suggested. At my mixed farm operation we have got foreign agricultural students. We supply room and board, a vehicle, and only about 7.50/hour. We also supply all the work that any young person could want on the cattle and grain side. It works out that the student is guaranteed approx 1200/month, but will usually make more. It does not sound like much, but this program gives a young person exposure to farming/ranching in different parts of the world for about 7 months at a time. This past year we had a young 20 yr old girl from Norway work with us starting April 10th, ending Nov 8th. Previously she had worked in a dairy in Australia. The program is always looking for new students. May be a good fit for you, and may cure you of your "farming itch" once and for all.
 
Bro said:
H :D ere is an idea, I have not read the entire thread so maybe it has already been suggested. At my mixed farm operation we have got foreign agricultural students. We supply room and board, a vehicle, and only about 7.50/hour. We also supply all the work that any young person could want on the cattle and grain side. It works out that the student is guaranteed approx 1200/month, but will usually make more. It does not sound like much, but this program gives a young person exposure to farming/ranching in different parts of the world for about 7 months at a time. This past year we had a young 20 yr old girl from Norway work with us starting April 10th, ending Nov 8th. Previously she had worked in a dairy in Australia. The program is always looking for new students. May be a good fit for you, and may cure you of your "farming itch" once and for all.

Wow, thats pretty good. do they do this all over the place or is it just something that you guys do? And is it just for foreiners? 1200 a month? Oh my gosh thats seriously alot of money, i work 5 days a week and I only make about 600 something a month, I get pretty crapy pay.
 
We are usually able to get a student about every two years through this program. They usually are away from home for about 15 months (they do two tours in 2 different countries) THey are supposed to get every weekend off (except should work during calving and harvesting/seeding). THey also get 2 weeks off 1/2 way through each tour in order to meet up with other students and to tour the host country. We have had good students (the best was a new zealander) and some not so good, (someone twisted the frame on our silage truck) but I know we got something out of the experience, and I know they learned alot. Some have lost their interest in farming after working with us, which probably was a good thing. Not at home now, but could send you contact number for the exchange program next couple days. If your serious, I believe they are signing up pronto. I will post it on this thread. PS. If I was younger and dependent free like yourself, I would do this - see other parts of the world and get paid a bit.
 
Bro said:
We are usually able to get a student about every two years through this program. They usually are away from home for about 15 months (they do two tours in 2 different countries) THey are supposed to get every weekend off (except should work during calving and harvesting/seeding). THey also get 2 weeks off 1/2 way through each tour in order to meet up with other students and to tour the host country. We have had good students (the best was a new zealander) and some not so good, (someone twisted the frame on our silage truck) but I know we got something out of the experience, and I know they learned alot. Some have lost their interest in farming after working with us, which probably was a good thing. Not at home now, but could send you contact number for the exchange program next couple days. If your serious, I believe they are signing up pronto. I will post it on this thread. PS. If I was younger and dependent free like yourself, I would do this - see other parts of the world and get paid a bit.

Heck I might sign up also, can I get an application and do they take 42 year olds? :lol:
 

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