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bse-tester said:
I see we have another one who likes to use my name is vain - bs-er he calls me.

Poor soul that needs saving - follow the path that Shaft has shown you and you will be saved. otherwise, you too will learn of the folly when you bring a knife to gun-fight. LOL

My humor borders on legendary - so burnt - be afraid, be very afraid.

:lol: :lol: :lol: Use your name in vain??? :lol: "Lord Ron" :lol: :lol:

Typical arrogant limey.Delusions of grandeur. :roll:
How's that fear mongering to sell your(stolen)test working out for you Ronald??
Screw any legitimate researchers lately???(Harash Narang)

Snake oil, folks. :lol: :lol: :lol:
 

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The fish is already stinky burnt.... Where the hell have you been. I am willing to put up an all natural steak that if beef were tested in North America we would see an increase in consumption over a short period. And the benefits to the industry would outweigh the costs astronomically. Of do you think that trailer park gang in good old America don't know about mad cow disease???? Do you have a clue about the advantages of captive North American supply of beef and the Multinational global profit taking tied to it?

Nice to have you on board by the way..... Challenges are good for the mind and like Mrs. Greg says - up our viewer potential to sell more product for Bayer Crop Science. See advertisement at the top of this page......
 

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Hey now bu-t, waddle on over hear and listen closely. Have you never heard about the exception that makes the rule? Some of us prefer to dream the impossible dream and dedicate ourselves to attempting to alleviate and ameliorate human suffering wherever possible. Not often possible, I must confess, but that is no good excuse for not making the effort. Bad things happen to good people and justice mostly appears to be a myth. However, somebody has to try flying too close to the sun from time-to-time or we may all forget what true fun and folly looks like.

Of course, your thinking may be skewed a bit by too much exposure to the American dream and the general modus operandi of my ilk south of the 42nd. You can get burnt for eternity if you fly too close to that 'light'.

FYI Don Quixote is my hero. I would rather fail gloriously than never have made the effort.

Ron, Limey prig or no (and I have no idea, I just like the sound of the phrase) if you can put together a fluorescent Ab sandwich that works, you go boy.
 

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The fish is already stinky burnt.... Where the hell have you been. I am willing to put up an all natural steak that if beef were tested in North America we would see an increase in consumption over a short period. And the benefits to the industry would outweigh the costs astronomically. Of do you think that trailer park gang in good old America don't know about mad cow disease???? Do you have a clue about the advantages of captive North American supply of beef and the Multinational global profit taking tied to it?

Nice to have you on board by the way..... Challenges are good for the mind and like Mrs. Greg says - up our viewer potential to sell more product for Bayer Crop Science. See advertisement at the top of this page......

"Fast Cash Online

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- is the ad at the top of my page, r-iser! How appropriate!

You would undeniably win the wager if testing were implemented. I am all for it if it benefits the cattleman ( I will decline from entering the gender dispute).

However, a lifetime of experience in raising livestock and listening to the experts in the field has left me with a deep seated suspicion of miracle cures.

For this reason, I welcome the input and questions from an educated voice which does not appear to have a dog in this fight.

Yet, even his questions regarding cost, accuracy and feasibility are only partially answered.
 

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Hey now bu-t, waddle on over hear and listen closely. Have you never heard about the exception that makes the rule? Some of us prefer to dream the impossible dream and dedicate ourselves to attempting to alleviate and ameliorate human suffering wherever possible. Not often possible, I must confess, but that is no good excuse for not making the effort. Bad things happen to good people and justice mostly appears to be a myth. However, somebody has to try flying too close to the sun from time-to-time or we may all forget what true fun and folly looks like.

Of course, your thinking may be skewed a bit by too much exposure to the American dream and the general modus operandi of my ilk south of the 42nd. You can get burnt for eternity if you fly too close to that 'light'.

FYI Don Quixote is my hero. I would rather fail gloriously than never have made the effort.

I'm listening and learning.

Humanitarianism is doubtlessly the most noble goal next to the advocacy of spiritual freedom, but we have been duly warned against hijacking this thread for further discussion along that other-nature.

Thus, one would show nothing but the greatest disregard for the distinct value of humanity if he were to denigrate the efforts of research aimed at relieving human suffering.

However, pushing for the acceptance of tests of dubious, or at least, unproven value (and may I again mention costs) has to it the ring of ka-ching rather than concern.

Some would think that true humanitarianism is founded in the research lab that has a view on the good of the people, rather than pocketbooks.

Here I will concede.

Thank you for entertaining my lugubrious dissension.
 

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What is going on, a William F Buckley impersonation contest? I don't think words like "lugubrious" are allowed here. Mason?
 

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Some would think that true humanitarianism is founded in the research lab that has a view on the good of the people, rather than pocketbooks.

Here I will concede.

"Now cracks a noble heart. Goodnight, sweet Prince. And flights of angels sing thee to thy rest."
 

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Shaft said:
Some would think that true humanitarianism is founded in the research lab that has a view on the good of the people, rather than pocketbooks.

Here I will concede.

"Now cracks a noble heart. Goodnight, sweet Prince. And flights of angels sing thee to thy rest."
:( Awwww...I still have popcorn left :(
 

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I am not going to tolerate the level of BS that TimH seems to want to continue hurling at me especially when he make statements such as:

Typical arrogant limey.Delusions of grandeur.
How's that fear mongering to sell your(stolen)test working out for you Ronald??
Screw any legitimate researchers lately???(Harash Narang)

Snake oil, folks.

Call me whatever you like Timh, it matters not, but when you publicly accuse me of theft as you have tonight - you crossed into a world of agony pal and I think that you are probably thinking this will simply go away.

Mr. Rob McDonald, my Solicitor at Fraser Milner Casgrain here in Edmonton will literally hunt you down and force your sorry butt into court in order for you to back up you moronic accusations. You might want to look at their website and check out his specialties Timmy - as they are all going to be coming at you. You will note that he lectures at the University of Alberta on the aspects of Proprietary Law, Patent Law, Trademark Law and so on and so on and so on.

I hope you have pockets as deep as that mouth of yours because now, I will make it my life's ambition to see that they stay empty for a very long time pal.

And to think that all it will take to end this is a posted apology that reads from the heart Tim. Do you have to balls for what I am going to put you through or not. Apologize and it may just all go away. If not - the choice is yours pal. Do something you hardly ever do - choose wisely.

Ask your wife for some advice and tell her you made one hell of a mistake tonight - she might understand.

Oh, before you start thinking I am just blowing off steam, the e-mail to Rob has already gone out along with your posting. Have a nice evening.
 

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Oh my God.

This has been one of the most incredible days yet on ranchers.net. Don't listen to tattle tail Sandhusker Macon ---- even my broken down old Websters had lugubrious listed.

Good night and Godspeed to you Shaft - I hope the bats don't get to you down in that place you pulled your name from tonight you eastern dark angel.

Kudos to all the philanthropists who posted today. Together we can save all mankind.................. :roll:
 

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One final pearl of stolen wisdom that I cannot resist passing along:

A disciple asked Confucius about clarity.
Confucius said, "When biting and painful slander does not affect you, then you can be called clear. When biting and painful slander does not affect you, then you can be called perceptive." (12:6)

Would that we could all be clear and perceptive. I keep trying, but bitter and twisted just seems so goshed darn attractive from time-to-time.
 

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Shaft said:
One final pearl of stolen wisdom that I cannot resist passing along:

A disciple asked Confucius about clarity.
Confucius said, "When biting and painful slander does not affect you, then you can be called clear. When biting and painful slander does not affect you, then you can be called perceptive." (12:6)

Would that we could all be clear and perceptive. I keep trying, but bitter and twisted just seems so goshed darn attractive from time-to-time.

Not to mention that such an aspiration would require a certain degree of nobility.
 

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You ranchtalkers had better watch your step, you may get your boots soiled here on the dark side! :wink: :lol: :lol: But good to have you watching the show! :D

burnt and Randy...I'm sure you have noticed the "Ad by Google" in the corner of those ads on these pages?!?! :eek: Remember, anytime you are looking at your screen while on the duba-duba-duba, there is someone on the other side looking back at you!!!! :shock:

And Tim, if Google can find you, I'm sure Ron's man can too!

burnt said:
I am all for it if it benefits the cattleman ....

One thing is for sure(and has been proven over the last 30 years), if we stick our heads in the sand, whether it be BSE, E.coli, antibiotic, hormones, saturated fats, or animal abuse, we will shrink our customer base and that certainly won't benefit cattlemen. The one thing that will benefit the entire industry is to have more people eating more beef. To do that, we have to address all these issues in a publically acceptable manner. Trying to be the last producers standing in the quest for low cost food is not the road we need to be going down...poultry already has a lock on that one!
 

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Nobility honors emotional stability and common sense

Porker, I hate to say this (and I really do - you seem like a nice chap) but the idea that nobility and common sense are somehow linked is pure hogwash.

Using the straightforward meaning of nobility, history is replete with noblemen and noblewomen who didn't have a lick of common sense among them.

Using the definition that ensnares a higher moral standing, history is also replete with noble people and noble acts that cannot be said to have a lick of common sense among them.

Take one of my personal favorites, Sir Thomas More. It certainly would have been common sense to kowtow to Henry VIII, but Sir Thomas stuck to his guns and the principle that the rule of law must prevail. The vorpal blade went snicker-snack and Sir Thomas was no more. Now, I ask you, where was the common sense in that? Nobility, yes. Common sense, no.

Remember the Alamo!
 

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