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Japanese consumers are reaching out to U.S. beef. Approximately 5 metric tons of U.S. beef at three Costco stores in the Tokyo area sold out in the first day.

The first shipments of U.S. beef to Japan began selling in the Costco store nearest Tokyo Wednesday (Aug. 9), and interest among media and consumers was high.

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I thought little Sandcheska said that Japanese consumers only wanted bse tested beef? By Golly Sandcheska even had a Veneman quote as SMOKIN' HOT PROOF!

LITTLE SANDCHESKA WAS WRONG AGAIN!

So what's new?


~SH~
 
Yippeee Yahoooo. Valentine, Nebraska goes thru that much. Japan used to take 20,000 tons/month. Let me know when we're there again.
 
Yup Sandcheska, Japanese consumers sure want bse tested beef don't they ("the illusion of safety")? What you want to believe carries far more weight than actual consumer purchases doesn't it?

The R-CALF way!


~SH~
 
Kaori Watanabe, spokeswoman for Aeon Co., says the nation's top supermarket chain hasn't received a single call from customers asking for U.S. beef. Aeon, which operates more than 300 food stores nationwide, is often deluged with requests for products, so that means there's no interest in U.S. beef, she said.

"We decided against it until there's a situation in which customers can buy it without worrying about it," Watanabe said. Shoppers are more interested these days in organically grown vegetables, she said.
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Evidently, the Japanese are more worried than YOU think. :roll:
 
Chief: "Evidently, the Japanese are more worried than YOU think."

Once again, WHAT CHIEF WANTS TO BELIEVE becomes more important than WHAT ACTUAL CONSUMER PURCHASES have confirmed.

I'll take actual consumer purchases over unconfirmed cheap quotes any day of the year Chief. Sorry this good news about US beef sales in Japan has to be such bad news for a USDA blamer like you.

Approximately 5 metric tons of U.S. beef at three Costco stores in the Tokyo area sold out in the first day.

Yup, there sure running scared Chief. Maybe your R-CALF representatives should run over there and tell them how they would be better off with bse tested beef from tests that won't reveal bse prions in cattle under 24 months of age and tell them how "USDA doesn't care about food safety" and tell them how "having bse in your native herd means your beef is contaminated". Give them the whole R-CALF mantra in "one fell swooop". Really scare the heck out of them since they haven't bought your bse testing rhetoric yet.


~SH~
 
Opening of these export markets is good news...especially for producers. It will keep tight supplies of cattle tight! But the question that needs to be answered before making any claims...At what price????? Demand is price/volume....small volume at low sale prices isn't victory! :???:
 
RobertMac said:
Opening of these export markets is good news...especially for producers. It will keep tight supplies of cattle tight! But the question that needs to be answered before making any claims...At what price????? Demand is price/volume....small volume at low sale prices isn't victory! :???:
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The other question is our breakeven point. At what point do we make more from Japan because of insisting on "sound science" based trade. We have a mighty big hole to fill before we get back to zero.
 
ocm said:
RobertMac said:
Opening of these export markets is good news...especially for producers. It will keep tight supplies of cattle tight! But the question that needs to be answered before making any claims...At what price????? Demand is price/volume....small volume at low sale prices isn't victory! :???:
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The other question is our breakeven point. At what point do we make more from Japan because of insisting on "sound science" based trade. We have a mighty big hole to fill before we get back to zero.
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Two and a half years at 1.4 Billion/year....... won't happen. You would need a sales pitch that would bring us up to where we were and then exceed it. "Sound science" is not something consumers asked for, it is something that was created as a way to push your product off on consumers under "free trade".
 
Once you let the competition in the door, as the USDA did with the Aussies in Japan, it's takes years to recover. This will be a slow go.

Remember, back in 2001 when the NCBA and AMI wanted to put a label on USA beef guaranteeing it "BSE FREE"? (WITHOUT TESTING, I might add)

Exports to Japan were plummeting back then.
 
Interesting comments from Kruse:

[ "The NCBA acts like the Japanese can't get along without U.S. beef. The fact is that they got along without it just fine for three years and the fact U.S. beef can now be legally sold in Japan is not bringing forth any tremendous outpouring of consumer interest there. U.S. Meat Export Federation CEO Philip Seng warns, "It will take some time to get this market back, and it won't be easy."

U.S. beef only represented 2% of Japanese meat consumption before it was banned as a result of timely BSE in U.S. animals. Japanese meat consumption is split 60% fish, 17% pork, 15% poultry and 8% beef. They never missed the 2% share of their overall meat consumption represented by the absence of U.S. beef, but the U.S. industry sure did. A spokesman for Aeon CO, Japan's top supermarket, says they are not handling U.S. beef. She says, "The Nation's top supermarket chain hasn't received a single call from customers asking for American beef. Aeon, which operates more than 300 food stores nationwide, is often deluged with requests for products, so that means there's no interest in American beef. We decided against it until there's a situation in which customers can buy it without worrying about it. Shoppers are more interested these days in organically grown vegetables." That was insulting.

The beef she was referring to that consumers could buy without worrying about it, would be BSE tested beef. Another major Japanese food retailer added, "American beef hasn't won the understanding of Japanese consumers. Consumers don't trust it."

We aren't going to get any help from the Japanese government. "It's not our job to promote American beef," said Health Ministry official Koji Obayashi. "It's okay if no one buys U.S. beef." Costco, the first retailer in Japan to sell U.S. beef, sold 5.1 tons in a day. That's good, but at the equivalent of 10 head of cattle a day, the Japanese market equates to 3650 head of cattle a year. My family finishes a larger number of cattle than that each year. The NCBA is worried that the 20 month ag restriction limits the number of cattle eligible for export to Japan to 10% of U.S. fed cattle supply.

Sure wish they'd worry about something relevant for a change."]
 
Japan not to ease rule on U.S. beef imports: Farm Ministry official
Japanese Vice Minister of Agriculture, Forestry and Fisheries Yoshio Kobayashi said Thursday that Japan has no plans at present to ease its rule on U.S. beef imports.

Kobayashi made the remark at a press conference after U.S. Agriculture Secretary Mike Johanns on Wednesday reiterated Washington's call for Japan to permit imports of U.S. beef taken from cows aged up to 30 months.

Japan currently imports meat of 20-month or younger cows from the United States on condition that parts with high risks of mad cow disease infections, including brain and spinal cords, are removed.

Now is not the time to review the rule, Kobayashi said, noting that the United States in the first place should try to win back Japanese consumers' trust in American beef.

Japan totally banned imports of U.S. beef in December 2003 following the discovery of the first U.S. case of the fatal brain-wasting disease, formally called bovine spongiform encephalopathy, or BSE.

The ban was partially lifted in December 2005, but Tokyo introduced an all-out import ban on U.S. beef again a month later as prohibited cow parts were found in a beef cargo from the United States.

The second ban was eased on July 27, and only 286 tons of U.S. beef have cleared the Japanese Agriculture Ministry's quarantine procedures since then. (Jiji Press)

September 8, 2006
 
fedup2 said:
Interesting comments from Kruse:

[ "The NCBA acts like the Japanese can't get along without U.S. beef. The fact is that they got along without it just fine for three years and the fact U.S. beef can now be legally sold in Japan is not bringing forth any tremendous outpouring of consumer interest there. U.S. Meat Export Federation CEO Philip Seng warns, "It will take some time to get this market back, and it won't be easy."

U.S. beef only represented 2% of Japanese meat consumption before it was banned as a result of timely BSE in U.S. animals. Japanese meat consumption is split 60% fish, 17% pork, 15% poultry and 8% beef. They never missed the 2% share of their overall meat consumption represented by the absence of U.S. beef, but the U.S. industry sure did. A spokesman for Aeon CO, Japan's top supermarket, says they are not handling U.S. beef. She says, "The Nation's top supermarket chain hasn't received a single call from customers asking for American beef. Aeon, which operates more than 300 food stores nationwide, is often deluged with requests for products, so that means there's no interest in American beef. We decided against it until there's a situation in which customers can buy it without worrying about it. Shoppers are more interested these days in organically grown vegetables." That was insulting.

The beef she was referring to that consumers could buy without worrying about it, would be BSE tested beef. Another major Japanese food retailer added, "American beef hasn't won the understanding of Japanese consumers. Consumers don't trust it."

We aren't going to get any help from the Japanese government. "It's not our job to promote American beef," said Health Ministry official Koji Obayashi. "It's okay if no one buys U.S. beef." Costco, the first retailer in Japan to sell U.S. beef, sold 5.1 tons in a day. That's good, but at the equivalent of 10 head of cattle a day, the Japanese market equates to 3650 head of cattle a year. My family finishes a larger number of cattle than that each year. The NCBA is worried that the 20 month ag restriction limits the number of cattle eligible for export to Japan to 10% of U.S. fed cattle supply.

Sure wish they'd worry about something relevant for a change."]
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Gosh, don't you just HATE opinions. :roll: I guess it's a good thing that the Japanese Costco stores are selling the equivalent of ten head a day (although I figure it must be more like 18 head a day). So, go you US beef go.
 
Any reluctance by any Japanese consumer to consume US beef surrounds the fact that the US had BSE. Nothing else! Certainly not because USDA refused to embrace Creekstone's deceptive "ILLUSION OF SAFETY" bse testing.

Nowhere have I seen any Japanese consumer CURRENTLY demanding BSE tests on cattle under 24 months of age with tests that would not reveal bse prions in cattle under 24 months of age. Japanese consumers are not as stupid as the USDA blamers would hope they were.

It's truly unfortunate that you USDA blamers can't appreciate the fact that Japanese consumers are willing to consume US beef considering the fact that we had BSE in our native herd. Instead, you still clutch on to the hope that they DEMAND deceptive testing because it supports your need to blame USDA. What a pathetic bunch. Typical blamers!


~SH~
 
The fact is that the Japanese consumer demanded BSE testing of THEIR OWN BEEF SUPPLY. If you equal the Japanese protocol (USDA equivalency ring a bell????????????), they have very little to no grounds to keep a ban on USA beef and we get back into that market much sooner with much higher consumer confidence. The USDA and beef industry's lack of proactive response to consumer concerns has cost us market share!!!!!!!!!!!! :mad:
 
SH, "Any reluctance by any Japanese consumer to consume US beef surrounds the fact that the US had BSE. Nothing else! Certainly not because USDA refused to embrace Creekstone's deceptive "ILLUSION OF SAFETY" bse testing."

Then explain to us why every comment by the Japanese always has something in it about regaining confidence? The Japanese herd has BSE at a much higher rate than ours, but you don't seem to hear anything about not having confidence in domestic beef, only ours.

SH, "Nowhere have I seen any Japanese consumer CURRENTLY demanding BSE tests on cattle under 24 months of age with tests that would not reveal bse prions in cattle under 24 months of age."

By your highlighting of "currently" it appears you are finally admitting that they have demanded tests in the past. It's about time you recognized that fact. Tell me, how many Japanese consumers do you see demanding under 21 month cattle?

SH, "Japanese consumers are not as stupid as the USDA blamers would hope they were. "

How did they wise up so much so fast? Just a few months ago, you claimed they didn't know much about BSE or they wouldn't be asking for testing.
 
~SH~ said:
Any reluctance by any Japanese consumer to consume US beef surrounds the fact that the US had BSE. Nothing else! Certainly not because USDA refused to embrace Creekstone's deceptive "ILLUSION OF SAFETY" bse testing.

Nowhere have I seen any Japanese consumer CURRENTLY demanding BSE tests on cattle under 24 months of age with tests that would not reveal bse prions in cattle under 24 months of age. Japanese consumers are not as stupid as the USDA blamers would hope they were.

It's truly unfortunate that you USDA blamers can't appreciate the fact that Japanese consumers are willing to consume US beef considering the fact that we had BSE in our native herd. Instead, you still clutch on to the hope that they DEMAND deceptive testing because it supports your need to blame USDA. What a pathetic bunch. Typical blamers!


~SH~
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SH, why do you advocate policies that put the U.S. cattleman at a marketing disadvantage which has already lost U.S. cattlemen billions?
 
~SH~ said:
Any reluctance by any Japanese consumer to consume US beef surrounds the fact that the US had BSE. Nothing else! Certainly not because USDA refused to embrace Creekstone's deceptive "ILLUSION OF SAFETY" bse testing.

Nowhere have I seen any Japanese consumer CURRENTLY demanding BSE tests on cattle under 24 months of age with tests that would not reveal bse prions in cattle under 24 months of age. Japanese consumers are not as stupid as the USDA blamers would hope they were.

It's truly unfortunate that you USDA blamers can't appreciate the fact that Japanese consumers are willing to consume US beef considering the fact that we had BSE in our native herd. Instead, you still clutch on to the hope that they DEMAND deceptive testing because it supports your need to blame USDA. What a pathetic bunch. Typical blamers!
~SH~
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USDA Q & A:

Q. Will USDA be approving rapid diagnostic tests for BSE (this was asked in 2003 and is on the USDA Q and A website)) ?
A: At this time, no live animal tests are approved by USDA to detect BSE. USDA requires that all post-mortem testing for
BSE be done at NVSL. These tests are strictly to screen for the BSE agent and are not related to food safety.

Q. If BSE existed in the USA, would the testing of cattle for BSE make a great difference in the actual risk to humans?
A: Yes. However it would not take the risk away completely and this should be remembered. One thing that may well be of great value from testing is to make sure that the potential finding of BSE succeeds in the USA, whereas currently the numbers tested are probably too low to be sure of this.
 
RM: "The fact is that the Japanese consumer demanded BSE testing of THEIR OWN BEEF SUPPLY."

OF WHAT AGED CATTLE???

Most Japanese consumers are smart enough to realize that bse testing cattle under 24 months of age, with a test that will not reveal bse prions in cattle under 24 months of age, WILL ACCOMPLISH NOTHING IN THE WAY OF ADDED FOOD SAFETY, NOTHING!


RM: "The USDA and beef industry's lack of proactive response to consumer concerns has cost us market share!!!!!!!!!!!!"

USDA was absolutely right not to sell an "ILLUSION OF SAFETY" with deceptive bse testing.

What cost us market share is BSE, not USDA's refusal to deceive Japanese consumers. Thank God the deceivers are not in control of this industry.


Sandy: "Then explain to us why every comment by the Japanese always has something in it about regaining confidence? The Japanese herd has BSE at a much higher rate than ours, but you don't seem to hear anything about not having confidence in domestic beef, only ours."

Another "ILLUSION"!

Japan has concerns about US beef because we had BSE. SIMPLE AS THAT!

Who the hell knows their feelings on Japanese beef, you certainly don't.


Sandy: "By your highlighting of "currently" it appears you are finally admitting that they have demanded tests in the past. It's about time you recognized that fact. Tell me, how many Japanese consumers do you see demanding under 21 month cattle?"

"MASTER ILLUSIONIST" at work again! CREATING ANOTHER ILLUSION!

I never seen where they demanded tests in the past. All you ever offered was a quote from Veneman that was how many years old?????

Doesn't matter what they may or may have not demanded in the past, what matters is what they are PURCHASING TODAY! Sorry the good news about US beef sales in Costco stores is such bad news for a USDA blamer like you.

How many Japanese consumers do you see demanding under 21 month cattle? ABSOLUTELY IRRELEVANT TO THE FACT THAT THEY ARE PURCHASING SOME CATTLE THAT ARE UNDER 14 MONTHS.

NEXT!


Sandy: "How did they wise up so much so fast? Just a few months ago, you claimed they didn't know much about BSE or they wouldn't be asking for testing."

BRING THE QUOTE!

Another "ILLUSION" by taking a statement out of context!

Another example of your relentless deception!

Doesn't matter what they may or may not have asked for, WHAT MATTERS IS WHAT THEY ARE BUYING!


Conman: "SH, why do you advocate policies that put the U.S. cattleman at a marketing disadvantage which has already lost U.S. cattlemen billions?"

Empty statement from an empty head!

I will never support deceptive bse testing that creates an "ILLUSION OF SAFETY" no matter how much money you believe it would have generated. Japan banned our beef because we had bse, not because we would not allow deceptive testing. The sooner you get that through your empty head, the better.


Mike,

Your quotes are taken completely out of context because there is no doubt in my mind that when USDA answered the following question:

Q. If BSE existed in the USA, would the testing of cattle for BSE make a great difference in the actual risk to humans?

They were referring to tests on older cattle, not the deceptive bse tests on younger cattle that you USDA blamers advocate.

Thank God USDA is in charge of food safety instead of "fast buck artists" and consumer deceivers.


~SH~
 
~SH~ said:
RM: "The fact is that the Japanese consumer demanded BSE testing of THEIR OWN BEEF SUPPLY."

OF WHAT AGED CATTLE???

Most Japanese consumers are smart enough to realize that bse testing cattle under 24 months of age, with a test that will not reveal bse prions in cattle under 24 months of age, WILL ACCOMPLISH NOTHING IN THE WAY OF ADDED FOOD SAFETY, NOTHING!


RM: "The USDA and beef industry's lack of proactive response to consumer concerns has cost us market share!!!!!!!!!!!!"

USDA was absolutely right not to sell an "ILLUSION OF SAFETY" with deceptive bse testing.

What cost us market share is BSE, not USDA's refusal to deceive Japanese consumers. Thank God the deceivers are not in control of this industry.


Sandy: "Then explain to us why every comment by the Japanese always has something in it about regaining confidence? The Japanese herd has BSE at a much higher rate than ours, but you don't seem to hear anything about not having confidence in domestic beef, only ours."

Another "ILLUSION"!

Japan has concerns about US beef because we had BSE. SIMPLE AS THAT!

Who the hell knows their feelings on Japanese beef, you certainly don't.


Sandy: "By your highlighting of "currently" it appears you are finally admitting that they have demanded tests in the past. It's about time you recognized that fact. Tell me, how many Japanese consumers do you see demanding under 21 month cattle?"

"MASTER ILLUSIONIST" at work again! CREATING ANOTHER ILLUSION!

I never seen where they demanded tests in the past. All you ever offered was a quote from Veneman that was how many years old?????

Doesn't matter what they may or may have not demanded in the past, what matters is what they are PURCHASING TODAY! Sorry the good news about US beef sales in Costco stores is such bad news for a USDA blamer like you.

How many Japanese consumers do you see demanding under 21 month cattle? ABSOLUTELY IRRELEVANT TO THE FACT THAT THEY ARE PURCHASING SOME CATTLE THAT ARE UNDER 14 MONTHS.

NEXT!


Sandy: "How did they wise up so much so fast? Just a few months ago, you claimed they didn't know much about BSE or they wouldn't be asking for testing."

BRING THE QUOTE!

Another "ILLUSION" by taking a statement out of context!

Another example of your relentless deception!

Doesn't matter what they may or may not have asked for, WHAT MATTERS IS WHAT THEY ARE BUYING!


Conman: "SH, why do you advocate policies that put the U.S. cattleman at a marketing disadvantage which has already lost U.S. cattlemen billions?"

Empty statement from an empty head!

I will never support deceptive bse testing that creates an "ILLUSION OF SAFETY" no matter how much money you believe it would have generated. Japan banned our beef because we had bse, not because we would not allow deceptive testing. The sooner you get that through your empty head, the better.


Mike,

Your quotes are taken completely out of context because there is no doubt in my mind that when USDA answered the following question:

Q. If BSE existed in the USA, would the testing of cattle for BSE make a great difference in the actual risk to humans?

They were referring to tests on older cattle, not the deceptive bse tests on younger cattle that you USDA blamers advocate.

Thank God USDA is in charge of food safety instead of "fast buck artists" and consumer deceivers.


~SH~
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Sh, are you on some sort of national polling for what varmit hunters support in regards to the beef industry? Who cares what you would or would not support?

The USDA has FAILED in its bse policy. It has allowed bse to be used for economic purposes instead of health and public safety purposes. Dollars over ethics and only the USDA can be the judge of its own actions.
 

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