Judge these here bulls.

[Shane M. Moe]

I posted a couple pictures of buster calves a couple days ago. I like him. You might want to look at a Web site Green Spring Farm. Under Sales is a white bull that I owned for a few years and got several hundred good calves. The new owner in Maryland is a heck of nice guy and has semen on him.

 

[mytfarms]

I'm glad I sell my cattle grade and yield so I don't have to worry about colour as much. What really makes buyers pant is shrink you could sell them purple jerseys at a premium if you give them two extra points of shrink. Over the years we've had a few blue roan cows-bred black you get black claves-the only difference is they outweigh the straight black calves by about 50lbs. They were all pretty good cows I think they all ended up getting age culled. Ten or fifteen years ago straight black bulls could solve alot of problems in some cowherds-now that the milk and marbling futurity is going strong they might cause more problems than they fix. The breed is turning into one of extremes-it's getting harder to find just good middle of the road Angus cattle.

Amen. Tough indeed.

 

[mytfarms]

Welp, the deal is sealed! You'll be looking at some Muridale Buster (Roan bull) calves in spring 2010!

So I can't delete this. :wink: Anyway, the deal ain't sealed. I can get a straw of this bull to make a roan X for $50. IMO, that's a little too much for a un-registrable calf. Anyhow, keep posting suggestions and bulls. Looking like a Herf might be the way to go....

 

[Soapweed]

I'm glad I sell my cattle grade and yield so I don't have to worry about colour as much. What really makes buyers pant is shrink you could sell them purple jerseys at a premium if you give them two extra points of shrink. Over the years we've had a few blue roan cows-bred black you get black calves--the only difference is they outweigh the straight black calves by about 50lbs. They were all pretty good cows I think they all ended up getting age culled. Ten or fifteen years ago straight black bulls could solve alot of problems in some cowherds-now that the milk and marbling futurity is going strong they might cause more problems than they fix. The breed is turning into one of extremes-it's getting harder to find just good middle of the road Angus cattle.

Welp, the deal is sealed! You'll be looking at some Muridale Buster (Roan bull) calves in spring 2010!

So I can't delete this. :wink: Anyway, the deal ain't sealed. I can get a straw of this bull to make a roan X for $50. IMO, that's a little too much for a un-registrable calf. Anyhow, keep posting suggestions and bulls. Looking like a Herf might be the way to go....

When your cow is bulling, let her "accidentally" crawl through the fence to get with one of your neighbor's black bulls (surely there is one available nearby). You won't get a roan calf which would be 50 pounds bigger, but you also won't be out the 50 bucks. At a dollar per pound, this will be a break-even deal without the hassle of AIing your cow. Free advise is worth exactly what you pay for it. :wink:

 

[Northern Rancher]

Och Aye Soapie but sell the wee beastie as a finished bullock and he won't be worth $50 less. You dinna ken? Are you invoicing nothing for the free advice or am I lol. By god I swear them black bulls can fix anything but the crack of dawn or a broken heart.

 

[mytfarms]

OK, Soap. You're winning. Well, there ain't a better set of black bulls anywhere close to our place than those frozen in our tank. I guess you've finally helped me realize that if I'm raisin' black (ANGUS) calves, I ought to stay on that path. Still, I've found out about some nice bulls other breeds have to offer. Maybe there'll be 5 solid blacks on the ground a couple little white faces in spring 2010? As you've realized by now, I'm still a very inexperienced teen. Reckon I better listen to older wisdom. Terminal and club calf tangents cross my mind every now and again, but hey, SOMEONE has to raise good black calves and stay true top the grain. Thanks for the advice Soap, even if it was free.

 

[Soapweed]

Och Aye Soapie but sell the wee beastie as a finished bullock and he won't be worth $50 less. You dinna ken? Are you invoicing nothing for the free advice or am I lol. By god I swear them black bulls can fix anything but the crack of dawn or a broken heart.

But if you use easy calvin' black bulls you don't have to worry about the crack of dawn. Consequently you will have more time to spend with the little lady, so neither of you need to worry about a broken heart. :wink: It all kind of works itself out.

 

[mytfarms]

Och Aye Soapie but sell the wee beastie as a finished bullock and he won't be worth $50 less. You dinna ken? Are you invoicing nothing for the free advice or am I lol. By god I swear them black bulls can fix anything but the crack of dawn or a broken heart.

But if you use easy calvin' black bulls you don't have to worry about the crack of dawn. Consequently you will have more time to spend with the little lady, so neither of you need to worry about a broken heart. :wink: It all kind of works itself out.

Amen! Go Soap!
(Although, at my place, it'd be the OCC or PCC black bull... )

 

[Northern Rancher]

Soapie I run black bulls but I don't let them run me. I quit running cattle I had to babysit at night years ago-a wise old neighbor told me once that the only people who work at night are whores and thieves-I'm too nervous to steal and too jealous to pimp so my cows have the nightshift to themselves.

 

[Riverside]

Well as a Shorthorn breeder myself I would have to say they are two very nice bulls you have there. I would have to guess that there IMF and EMA figures would be very good. Shorthorns are excellent do'ers, they have great growth rates and there marbeling is usually excellent, they do very well in a feedlot situation. So if your going to sell over the hooks I would go with the Shorthorn, but if you are selling in a market then I would agree with Soapweed that same colour in alot is better. But then a red Shorthorn over a black angus would be ok if there were no throw backs in the colour. We purchased a Red Shorthorn bull about 10 years ago now and all of his off spring were Red and White and we are still trying to breed the colour out. The beef industry here is a very close competition between Shorthorns and Angus as they both cut up nicely on the plate. The only thing we have experienced as a downfall with Shorthorns is that you need to watch carefully there Birth weight, especially over your heifers.