MAD COW CONFIRMED ALABAMA

[don]

ot: Another Confederate cow!!

does this make a cluster???

 

[Red Robin]

It's probably in the water. Alabama touches the gulf which touches both oceans which touch Canada. See the connection?

 

[Anonymous]

I lived in Texas 13 years. Not sure that most Texans consider themselves part of the Confederacy. The South, yes.

You almost had me doubting my history memory for a moment- this is from wikpedia.com:

The Confederate States of America was formed on February 4, 1861, by seven Southern states (South Carolina, Mississippi, Florida, Alabama, Georgia, Texas, and Louisiana) after confirmation of the election of Abraham Lincoln as President of the United States. Jefferson Davis was selected as its first President the next day.

 

[Mike]

It's probably in the water. Alabama touches the gulf which touches both oceans which touch Canada. See the connection?

If Tam would just let the Canadians start testing, maybe we could rid ourselves of this scourge.......... :roll: :roll:

 

[Red Robin]

It's probably in the water. Alabama touches the gulf which touches both oceans which touch Canada. See the connection?

If Tam would just let the Canadians start testing, maybe we could rid ourselves of this scourge.......... :roll: :roll:

We've got to quit importing boat loads of Gert cows from Canada. :lol:

 

[Bill]

Maybe R-Calf can hold another press conference and this time reassure American consumers of the safety of US beef. They will have to have different partners on the stage with them though and do an entirely different song and dance. :roll: :roll:

R-CALF's strange bedfellows

Joe Roybal
Jul 1, 2004 12:00 PM


R-CALF found itself in the unenviable position last month of having to defend anti-beef groups in the wake of widespread criticism of its May 26 press event in Washington, D.C. During that event, which R-CALF held in tandem with Ralph Nader's Public Citizen group, Carol Tucker Foreman's Consumer Federation Of America, and the Consumers Union, the four groups denounced USDA's handling of the BSE situation, questioned the safety of beef, and called for government hearings on the matter.


In a letter circulated a few days after the press event, and presumably alluding to an article in the May 28 issue of BEEF Cow-Calf Weekly that criticized R-CALF for holding hands with the anti-meat activist groups, R-CALF patriarch Leo McDonnell struck out against industry criticism of what he charitably called "consumer groups."

"Attacking our nation's (sic) largest consumer groups, such as the Consumer Federation of America and the Consumer Union, with these kinds of hateful undertones undermines the hundred of millions of dollars U.S. cattle producers have invested to improve demand and improve consumer relationships," McDonnell wrote in his open letter.

To R-CALF, it's apparently only acceptable to trash your own family in public. Yet, the logic of McDonnell's charge is so blatantly perverse, it frankly leaves us speechless.

For the record, here is a short bio on each of the groups whose sensibilities McDonnell is apparently so wary of offending:


The Consumer Federation of America (CFA) opposes irradiation for food safety and has pushed for the reduction of beef in the school lunch program. CFA's founder, Carol Tucker Foreman, is well known for her anti-beef rhetoric and efforts to stir up hysteria about the safety of our product.

Tucker Foreman oversaw food safety and nutrition programs for Pres. Jimmy Carter. The 1977 release of the "Dietary Goals for the U.S." served as a wellspring of negative sentiment against the beef industry, of which a key element of advice was "Decrease consumption of meat, and increase consumption of poultry and fish." As USDA assistant secretary, Tucker Foreman was one of the biggest proponents of the Dietary Goals.

The Consumers Union (CU) and CFA have been two of the leading groups pushing since Dec. 23, 2003, the message that beef is unsafe. CU and its leader, Michael Hansen, have also led the crusade against biotechnology and genetically modified organisms.

In fact, former U.S. Surgeon General C. Everett Koop once referred to Hansen's rhetoric this way: "Unfortunately, a few fringe groups are using misleading statements and blatant falsehoods as part of a long-running campaign to scare consumers about a perfectly safe food … it is necessary to condemn these attacks … for what they are: baseless, manipulative and completely irresponsible."

Then there's Public Citizen (PC), which gains its supposed credibility through founder Ralph Nader. But PC is best known for its membership in the Global Safe Food Alliance, formed by such animal rights organizations as Physicians Committee for Responsible Medicine, the Western Organization of Resource Councils, Farm Sanctuary, etc., to put out anti-meat messages. If you want more information on PC, just go to its Web site at www.citizen.org, check out the "Meatrix" at www.themeatrix.com or the report "Jungle 2000" at http://www.whistleblower.org/uploads/The%20Jungle%202000%20-.PDF.


It's unfortunate that R-CALF leadership doesn't attach a similar level of respect and sensitivity toward the beef industry and the hardworking folks who are a part of it by more carefully selecting its comrades-in-arms. Crawling into bed with those who have long and openly campaigned for the beef industry's demise just to promote your agenda doesn't benefit anyone but the anti-meat groups, which likely gained considerable credibility as "consumer groups" as a result of the act.

In R-CALF's Washington love fest with the anti-meat groups, only the beef industry got screwed.

 

[Mike]

It's probably in the water. Alabama touches the gulf which touches both oceans which touch Canada. See the connection?

If Tam would just let the Canadians start testing, maybe we could rid ourselves of this scourge.......... :roll: :roll:

We've got to quit importing boat loads of Gert cows from Canada. :lol:

No, I think this cow is from NorthWest Arkansas. :shock:

 

[Red Robin]

If Tam would just let the Canadians start testing, maybe we could rid ourselves of this scourge.......... :roll: :roll:

We've got to quit importing boat loads of Gert cows from Canada. :lol:

No, I think this cow is from NorthWest Arkansas. :shock:

:lol: The chicken feather connection. If it's from Arkansas , it's not mad cow, it's just it's own grandma. There's lots of dizzy walking , slobbering at the mouth, skinny folks around here.

 

[Tam]

It's probably in the water. Alabama touches the gulf which touches both oceans which touch Canada. See the connection?

If Tam would just let the Canadians start testing, maybe we could rid ourselves of this scourge.......... :roll: :roll:

Sorry boys Canada's cluster area is in Alberta and Alberta doesn't touch the Ocean So you will just have to look for another connection :wink:

 

[Mrs.Greg]

It's probably in the water. Alabama touches the gulf which touches both oceans which touch Canada. See the connection?

If Tam would just let the Canadians start testing, maybe we could rid ourselves of this scourge.......... :roll: :roll:

Sorry boys Canada's cluster area is in Alberta and Alberta doesn't touch the Ocean So you will just have to look for another connection :wink:

THERES NO OCEAN IN ALBERTA ????:lol: :lol:

 

[bse-tester]

Red Robin wrote;

It's probably in the water. Alabama touches the gulf which touches both oceans which touch Canada. See the connection?

I guess geography wasn't his strong point huh? Nice try though. Well said Tam.

 

[Red Robin]

I never really had a strong suit bse-tester. What divides the pacific water from the alantic water?

 

[Tam]

If Tam would just let the Canadians start testing, maybe we could rid ourselves of this scourge.......... :roll: :roll:

Sorry boys Canada's cluster area is in Alberta and Alberta doesn't touch the Ocean So you will just have to look for another connection :wink:

THERES NO OCEAN IN ALBERTA ????:lol: :lol:

Not unless they have dug up the Rockies and flooded BC. :wink: :lol: :lol:

 

[Mike]

I just heard the cow was found near "Alberta, Alabama". No joke.

 

[ranch hand]

Did this guy ever destroy all of his herd?

ALABAMA RANCHER WANTS $600,000 TO DESTROY HERD
Orlando Sentinel (OS) - Tuesday, April 9, 1996
BIRMINGHAM, ALA. - A rancher who owns the nation's largest herd of British cattle is driving a hard bargain with the state of Alabama, which wants to buy and destroy the animals in case they have been exposed to mad cow disease. Forrest Ingram of Vinemont is seeking about $600,000 for 29 Charolais cattle, which were brought into the country before fears of the illness prompted a federal import ban. The state can condemn and take the cattle, but must pay a fair price. And it doesn't think $600,000 is fair, even though Ingram's cattle have shown no signs of the illness.

 

[Econ101]

Texas is the only state, I believe, that was once its own country. The last battle in the Civil War was fought in Texas and the Texans won..............................3 days after the civil war ended.

Texas is not part of the "deep south".

I don't consider it as such----it is the Missouri Compromise that allied it with the slave south by geography and states rights that allied it by politics.

 

[Bill]

I just heard the cow was found near "Alberta, Alabama". No joke.

Better be careful Mike or Oldtimer and his buddies will be pressing for Alabama and Texas to be quarrantined. Looks like a bit of a cluster area and you can't have those southern OTMs polluting the rest of the US!

That would put Kiker in a tough spot! :lol: :lol: :lol:

 

[mrj]

I'm listening to CNN and Clifford was just on. He talked about how the enhanced surveillance program having found only 2 cases in testing 600,00 plus proves how low the prevalence of BSE is in the U.S.

The more press this stuff gets, the higher the chance that someone who understands statistics and knows that we slaughter 35 MILLION cattle a year is going to get on the media and explain that this level testing cannot actually indicate prevalence.

Are you an expert in statistics now?

Did you know that 600,000 + of THE MOST LIKELY CATTLE TO BE POSITIVE have been tested? Did you know that 20,000+ of OLDER, HEALTHY cows, of an AGE more likely to have BSE have been tested?

Did you know that the testing protocol was designed to catch positives of BSE if even an extremely small number of them existed in the USA?

Suuuuuurrrrrre you did!

Granted, there have been, and will be HONEST mistakes made in working to find the facts about this disease, condition, or whatever it turns out to be. Can you admit that good, honest, and even intelligent scientists can make mistakes, and can also do their best, most honest job of trying to contain, contol, and eliminate BSE?

Why do some people insist that USDA and all people involved in fighting BSE are automatically guilty of trying to cover up and hide it rather than working to eliminate it?

Is it really that much more fun to be that way than it would be to work and be supportive in the efforts to eliminate the problem?

MRJ

 

[Econ101]

I'm listening to CNN and Clifford was just on. He talked about how the enhanced surveillance program having found only 2 cases in testing 600,00 plus proves how low the prevalence of BSE is in the U.S.

The more press this stuff gets, the higher the chance that someone who understands statistics and knows that we slaughter 35 MILLION cattle a year is going to get on the media and explain that this level testing cannot actually indicate prevalence.

Are you an expert in statistics now?

Did you know that 600,000 + of THE MOST LIKELY CATTLE TO BE POSITIVE have been tested? Did you know that 20,000+ of OLDER, HEALTHY cows, of an AGE more likely to have BSE have been tested?

Did you know that the testing protocol was designed to catch positives of BSE if even an extremely small number of them existed in the USA?

Suuuuuurrrrrre you did!

Granted, there have been, and will be HONEST mistakes made in working to find the facts about this disease, condition, or whatever it turns out to be. Can you admit that good, honest, and even intelligent scientists can make mistakes, and can also do their best, most honest job of trying to contain, contol, and eliminate BSE?

Why do some people insist that USDA and all people involved in fighting BSE are automatically guilty of trying to cover up and hide it rather than working to eliminate it?

Is it really that much more fun to be that way than it would be to work and be supportive in the efforts to eliminate the problem?

MRJ

MRJ, were they tested with a test that was most likely to find bse?

 

[rkaiser]

You folks in Alabama better head for the hills, I heard GW is thinking seriously about bombin the place to get this thing under control.

don wrote:
ot: Another Confederate cow!!

does this make a cluster???




I like OT but man this is funny.

If this is true it could be Rcalf, Oldtimer and Cluster's last stand.