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MAD COW CONFIRMED ALABAMA

flounder said:
frenchie, it's not me you should be mad at, it's the USDA et al.
im not your enemy, you and ranchers like you are the cause of this.
others, well, they just did not know any better. wake up and smell the coffee. glad your hitting the vegsource site and learning though :lol: :lol: :lol:
oh now your my friend :lol: And I am the cause of this whole mad cow thing..Please explain in 10 words or less how i did this. :wink:


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Bovine Spongiform Encephalopathy (BSE, or

"Mad Cow Disease"): Current and Proposed

Safeguards

Updated October 13, 2005

Geoffrey S. Becker

Specialist in Agricultural Policy

Resources, Science and Industry Division

Sarah A. Lister

Specialist in Public Health and Epidemiology

Domestic Social Policy Division



http://www.ncseonline.org/NLE/CRSreports/05oct/RL32199.pdf



TSS
 
BSE UPDATE ALABAMA March 17, 2006

MONTGOMERY - Alabama Agriculture & Industries Commissioner Ron Sparks, State Veterinarian Dr. Tony Frazier, and Dr. Ken Angel with the USDA held a press conference today to answer questions about yesterday's exhumation of the remains of the cow that tested positive for BSE.


Federal and state agriculture workers excavated the remains of the animal, which had been buried on the farm and did not enter the animal or human food chain, in accordance with USDA protocols. The carcass was that of a red crossbred beef type cow. An examination of the cow's teeth confirmed that the animal was at least 10 years of age. Samples were taken of the animal and the remaining carcass was transported to one of the department's diagnostic labs for proper disposal. State and Federal staff are continuing the traceback to determine the herd of origin.

One calf was identified by the owner as belonging to the red cow. The calf is approximately 6 weeks old and appeared to be a healthy animal. The calf was transported to a USDA lab where DNA from the calf will be compared to that of the red cow to confirm relation. If confirmed, this would be the first offspring of a BSE diagnosed cow in the United States. Officials today learned that in early 2005 the BSE-positive cow gave birth to another black bull calf. This animal is in the process of being traced.

The cow was first examined by a local veterinarian in late February 2006. After the animal failed to respond to medical attention, it was humanely euthanized. The cattle producer buried the cow at the farm because Alabama Department of Agriculture & Industries regulations require burial of livestock within 24 hours. The producer did not suspect that the cow had BSE. The local veterinarian sent samples of the cow to the Alabama Department of Agriculture & Industries lab
system, which was then forwarded to the USDA lab in Athens, GA as part of the routine voluntary surveillance program for BSE testing. After the rapid test for BSE gave an inconclusive result, the samples were sent to Ames, Iowa for a Western Blot test, which gave a positive result. A third test, the immunohistochemistry (IHC) test, was performed this week and also returned positive results for BSE.

The Alabama Department of Agriculture and Industries and the USDA have been encouraging participation in Premises ID Registration as an important step in controlling animal disease. Since starting the program in 2005, over 2,000 premises have been registered in Alabama. For more information on Premises ID Registration call 334-240-7253

http://www.agi.state.al.us/press_releases/bse-update

http://www.agi.state.al.us/press_releases/bse-update?pn=2



ITEM 6 – BARB CASE CLUSTERS

39. Professor John Wilesmith (Defra) updated the committee on the

BSE cases born after the 1996 reinforced mammalian meat and

bone meal ban in the UK (BARB cases). Around 116 BARB cases

had been identified in Great Britain up to 22 November 2005,

mostly through active surveillance. BARB cases had decreased in

successive birth cohorts, from 44 in the 1996/1997 cohort to none

to date in the 2000/2001 cohort. However, 3 BARB cases had

been identified in the 2001/2002 cohort. Backcalculation of the

prevalence of BARB cases indicated a drop from 130 infected

animals per million (95% confidence interval 90-190) in the

1996/1997 cohort to 30 infected animals per million (95%

confidence interval 10-60) in the 1999/2000 cohort. A shift in the

geographical distribution of BSE cases, from the concentration of

pre-1996 BSE cases in Eastern England to a more uniform

14

© SEAC 2005

distribution of BARB cases, had occurred. However, it appeared

that certain post-1996 cohorts had a higher exposure to BSE in

certain areas for limited periods. Several clusters of BARB cases

within herds had been identified (5 pairs, 2 triplets and 1

quadruplet).

40. A triplet of BARB cases in South West Wales had been

investigated in detail. The triplet comprised 2 cases born in

September and October 2001 and a third in May 2002. The

animals born in 2001 were reared outdoors from the spring of 2002

but the animal born in 2002 had been reared indoors. Further

investigation of feeding practices revealed that a new feed bin for

the adult dairy herd had been installed in September 1998. In July

2002 the feed bin was emptied, but not cleaned, and relocated. All

3 BARB cases received feed from the relocated bin. This finding

suggested the hypothesis that the feed bin installed in September

1998 was filled initially with contaminated feed, that remnants of

this feed fell to the bottom of the bin during its relocation, and thus

young animals in the 2001/2002 birth cohort were exposed to

feedstuffs produced in 1998. No adult cattle had been infected

because of the reduced susceptibility to BSE with increasing age.

41. Further investigation of multiple case herds had found no

association of BARB clusters with the closure of feed mills.

42. Professor Wilesmith concluded that there is evidence of a decline

in risk of infection for successive birth cohorts of cattle. The BARB

epidemic is unlikely to be sustained by animals born after 31 July

2000. Feed bins could represent a continued source of occasional

infection and advice to farmers is being formulated to reduce this

risk. There is no evidence for an indigenous source of infection for

the BARB cases.

43. Members considered it encouraging that no other factor, apart from

feed contamination, had been identified as a possible cause of

BARB cases to date. Members commented that this study

suggests that only a small amount of contaminated feed may be

required for infection and that BSE infectivity can survive in the

environment for several years. Professor Wilesmith agreed and

noted that infection caused by small doses of infectious material

was consistent with other studies, and it would appear there is little

dilution of infectivity, if present, in the rendering system.

Additionally it appeared that the infectious agent had survived for 4

years in the feed bin.

44. The Chair thanked Professor Wilesmith for his presentation.



snip...



http://www.seac.gov.uk/minutes/final90.pdf


TSS
 
Tell me flounder how many confirmed people died from Human form of Mad cow diease in Great Britian compared to deaths resulting from Auto -accidents.
 
I still have some questions about this last case of BSE in Alabama.
1) If the cow had only been in Alabama for a year, where did she come from? One would think the farmer would know where he bought her.
2) I understand she had a black bull calf as the calf before the red calf she had when she died. Where did this last black bull calf go? He should be about 15 months old by now so I suspect he has already been slaughtered.
3) I have had an Alabama premises ID for over a year now but I can find nowhere to use it. What good is a premises ID if one can't use it?
 
I too have many questions. The USDA wants transparency but they sure are secretive on the location. How do we know or not know if we are taking a hit from some imported animal. I hope they come forward with more info.
 
alabama said:
I still have some questions about this last case of BSE in Alabama.
1) If the cow had only been in Alabama for a year, where did she come from? One would think the farmer would know where he bought her.
2) I understand she had a black bull calf as the calf before the red calf she had when she died. Where did this last black bull calf go? He should be about 15 months old by now so I suspect he has already been slaughtered.
3) I have had an Alabama premises ID for over a year now but I can find nowhere to use it. What good is a premises ID if one can't use it?

1-The owner bought her at an auction barn.
2-Her last years calf died. No details.
3-Only 2000 cattlemen have signed on for the premises ID. Not a good turnout. The State is waiting on the USDA to send them some money for creating a database. If they don't get any they will start their own.

House Bill #254 has been presented to the legislature for the enactment of a "State" run ID system.

That's my story and I'm sticking with it.
 
Since the owner bought her at an auction barn then the barn should have a record of who delivered the cows that he bought that day. It seems as though "they" are not giving out much information on how it is going on tracing this cow and her calves.
 
alabama said:
Since the owner bought her at an auction barn then the barn should have a record of who delivered the cows that he bought that day. It seems as though "they" are not giving out much information on how it is going on tracing this cow and her calves.

If the cow was delivered to the auction barn without ID attached nor recorded, how would the cow be traced unless they had the actual sticky backtag?
 
I would think the stockyard would know to whom they made the check out to pay for the cow.
When I have sold at the stockyard my check stub shows who bought my cows. I would think that the stockyard would still have on record who bought which sticker numbers and who sold which sticker numbers.
Now if the last owner of the BSE cow bought several cows that day it may take a while to trace but it would sure narrow down the search.
 
Red Robin said:
No bangs clip in her ear I presume? Can't they track that to the farm of origin?

No bangs tag. No tattoo either. Either of those would have given them the date of inoculation and vet that administered it.

The Japs ain't gonna like this. :???:
 
Red Robin said:
Did she have the hole were the clip was or was she never vac'd?

Haven't heard about whether it's a lost tag or a no vac. If she is from Alabama or surrounding state, I would have thought it would be there.

Oh well.

The Japs ain't gonna like it.
:???:
 
Not being able to trace her back past the stockyard is a bad sign. I would be surprised if she was ever vaccinated for bangs if she was raised on a local cow calf farm. I help several locals gather calves and very few cows have a bangs tag. Also branding is seldom used in Alabama so I bet she was never branded either.
I went to the Montgomery stockyard to watch today. It was bad. They had me rolling in the floor as they chased goats all over the place. The little critters were jumping through the bars on the ring.
I bet they had less than 100 beef head. It won't stay open long like that.
 
Coming from a brand state this is all hard to comprehend...Here you need a permit or brand inspection just to move an animal across a county line to go to an Auction barn (even on a no brand)- where the animal is brand inspected before the sale- and again before it gets a clearance to leave the barn with the new owner who besides the sales barn paperwork gets a state market inspection listing him as the new owner- and listing the seller.....And these records are all kept for many many years.......

If the animal came from or went to another state it would also require a health certificate.......

Flat hard to believe NO one do's or keeps any paperwork.......

How do they audit the sales barns down there to check if they're collecting and paying the correct Checkoff if they don't keep records?
 
It's hard to believe that any kind of piecemeal system that is different between various states will ever evolve into a National ID system without some kind of US gov't involvement. Thankfully it was producer driven in Canada.
 
Oldtimer said:
Coming from a brand state this is all hard to comprehend...

Kinda blows away your whole theory about branding being better than our national ID system, huh?

Just out of curiosity, with your branding as National ID idea, what happens when two ranches in different states have the same brand?

Rod
 
DiamondSCattleCo said:
Oldtimer said:
Coming from a brand state this is all hard to comprehend...

Kinda blows away your whole theory about branding being better than our national ID system, huh?

Just out of curiosity, with your branding as National ID idea, what happens when two ranches in different states have the same brand?

Rod

Rod- Branding along with records works-- if they do it...Apparently Alabama does NOTHING...
 

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