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Mystery Meat

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Let's Be Honest About Food's Origin
Mystery Meat

By PAUL D. JOHNSON

Salina, Kansas.

The U.S. economy manages to follow the law and label every electronic gadget and stitch of clothing with where it comes from. Manufacturers likewise have no trouble putting a required nutrition list on food packages. But telling where food originates is called too daunting, and whether it was made by means unknown in nature is judged irrelevant.

The rest of the developed world doesn't see it so, and apparently isn't as beholden to agribusiness interests as is our government. Americans deserve better. Congress supported the right of consumers to know where their food comes from and included a country-of-origin label requirement back in the 2002 farm bill.

But the Agriculture Department opposed this, favoring a voluntary program, and its economists warned that implementation would cost $1.9 billion.

University of Florida researchers, on the other hand, estimated the price would be 90% below that claim and cost consumers less than one-tenth of a cent per pound of food.

The government then quietly lowered its estimate by two-thirds. But the political damage was done.

Congress postponed implementation.

Meanwhile, the nation's four biggest meat packers, which process more than 80% of the beef in this country, are quite happy. Without the label requirement, they can continue to import cheaper foreign beef to leverage down the price of American cattle. This imported beef gets an Agriculture Department inspection label when processed here, and is sold to unsuspecting consumers, who assume it is expensive American beef.

Also keeping consumers in the dark, the Food and Drug Administration refuses to require labels on food whose production involves genetic modification.

In 1994, the agency approved commercial use of a genetically engineered bovine growth hormone to increase milk production, and said that no label was needed.

Canada looked at the same test data from the manufacturer, Monsanto, and banned the hormone. So did the European Union, Australia, New Zealand, Japan, and other industrialized countries. There is concern that the hormone raises human cancer risk. And because cows on the production stimulant are more prone to udder infection, more antibiotics are used. Overuse of antibiotics undermines our pharmaceutical arsenal by encouraging antibiotic resistance in bacteria.

The Agriculture Department reported in 2002 that two million of America's 9.2 million dairy cows received the hormone, and that larger dairies use it far more than farms with fewer than 100 cows. Given the industry's mixing of milk from many farms, most U.S. dairy products have milk from injected cows.

The FDA ruled in 1992 that genetically modified food did not differ from other foods in any meaningful way. But there was considerable debate within the FDA over the differences between foods with and without genetic modification. A lawsuit filed by the Alliance for Bio-Integrity prompted the agency to release documents that highlighted the concerns some agency scientists had about biotech foods.

But under this country's present voluntary system, they remain unlabeled. Polls show that demand for this kind of food is low, and a large majority wants labeling. That could spell market failure, so biotechnology companies and agribusiness giants are opposed.

Without any labeling and separating of genetically modified ingredients, many overseas buyers have rejected corn, soy, canola, and cotton from the United States and Canada. In this country, large natural-food supermarket chains have announced that they will use no genetically modified foods in store brands.

But most processed food in this country contains soy, corn, or both in some form, and 80 percent of soy and 38% of corn commercially grown in the United States is genetically altered.

In a free and open market, transparency is necessary for consumers to know what they are getting. Scientists and nations around the world recognize this. But where and how Americans' food is raised too often remains hidden. We should enjoy the basic right to know.
 
Without any labeling and separating of genetically modified ingredients, many overseas buyers have rejected corn, soy, canola, and cotton from the United States and Canada. In this country, large natural-food supermarket chains have announced that they will use no genetically modified foods in store brands.

But most processed food in this country contains soy, corn, or both in some form, and 80 percent of soy and 38% of corn commercially grown in the United States is genetically altered.

In a free and open market, transparency is necessary for consumers to know what they are getting. Scientists and nations around the world recognize this. But where and how Americans' food is raised too often remains hidden. We should enjoy the basic right to know.

www.ScoringAg.com has the records to prove verification of locations or the product ,nomatter the food or feed. Scientists,business, and nations around the world recognize us for traceability and traceback within seconds.
 
Beef producers in the USA currently can, and many are, identifying their beef for consumers.

COOL CANNOT do that! It only requires for country of origin of IMPORTED beef. It did/does nothing to identify where, how, or by whom USA beef is produced.

There is only an IMPRESSION that COOL labeled beef is somehow safer when there would be NO change in safety of beef under COOL.

MRJ
 
MRJ said:
Beef producers in the USA currently can, and many are, identifying their beef for consumers.

COOL CANNOT do that! It only requires for country of origin of IMPORTED beef. It did/does nothing to identify where, how, or by whom USA beef is produced.

There is only an IMPRESSION that COOL labeled beef is somehow safer when there would be NO change in safety of beef under COOL.

MRJ

Just because the producer identifies his beef (which there was by the way, MANY ways of verifying origin in COOL) does not mean that the big packers will label as such.

Wouldn't you say that beef from the U.S. or Canada would be safer and take preference over beef from say...........Zimbabwe?

May be that you are correct though. With our corrupt USDA running the show.... Zimbabwean Beef might be safer. :mad: :mad: :mad:

It should be that U.S. producers' and packers would take some pride in our product and label it to show that it stands above the rest??????????

Why would you NOT want your beef labeled as "Product of USA"?
 
MRJ said:
Beef producers in the USA currently can, and many are, identifying their beef for consumers.

COOL CANNOT do that! It only requires for country of origin of IMPORTED beef. It did/does nothing to identify where, how, or by whom USA beef is produced.

There is only an IMPRESSION that COOL labeled beef is somehow safer when there would be NO change in safety of beef under COOL.

MRJ

You're wrong about there being no change in safety with COOL. For example, CAFTA countries are currently using drugs and chemicals on their cattle that are illegal here because they are deemed unsafe. NCBA didn't tell you that, did they? Shouldn't a person be able to avoid product that has used illegal chemicals?
 
You're wrong about there being no change in safety with COOL. For example, CAFTA countries are currently using drugs and chemicals on their cattle that are illegal here because they are deemed unsafe. NCBA didn't tell you that, did they? Shouldn't a person be able to avoid product that has used illegal chemicals?

Sandhusker, did you know that there are drugs and chemicals used in the US, that are not registered (illegal) for use in Canada. Does that make US beef unsafe?
 
Ban Brazilian beef imports immediately
Issued : Thursday 29 June, 2006

Statement by Mary Upton TD
Spokesperson on Agriculture and Food

In the wake of two EU inspectors' reports revelation of unacceptably high chemical residues in Brazilian beef and apples, Labour Spokesperson Mary Upton TD said that "we must stop importing meat and plant products from Brazil with immediate effect."

"These reports from the EU's Food and Veterinary Office show worryingly high levels of residues of banned antibiotics in beef and pesticides in apples. The report on residues of veterinary products and feed additives in beef is of particular concern when it concludes that 'most of the deficiencies found in 2004 have still not been rectified and many of the promised actions did not in fact happen.'

"These reports said that official control systems provide little assurance that beef or fruit being exported to the EU from Brazil will comply with EU legislation.

"This is a health safety issue. We cannot let international trade agreements stand in the way between the Irish Government's duty to protect Irish consumers from unsafe food.

"I have no faith whatsoever in the EU Food and Veterinary Office inspection system. Two years ago they found a whole swathe of problems with Brazilian beef. Yet we now learn the Brazilians have done nothing to improve their systems.

"Irish farmers and consumers are paying a very high price for tight EU regulation on Irish food products. Yet Brazilian farmers are able to sell their dangerous products on the Irish market.

"I am calling on the Minister for Agriculture and Food to insist on an immediate ban of Brazilian food until their safety systems are proven to be as good as ours. I am also calling on her to persuade her colleagues in Europe to insist that all products imported into the EU are subjected to the same rigorous food safety standards as ours are."
 
The solution is so simple...

LABEL EVERYTHING WITH THE COUNTRY OF ORIGIN...

If some people have major concerns about Mexican beef (like me) - then they wouldn't have to buy it...
If they had fears about Canadian beef- then they wouldn't have to buy it...
If they didn't want to eat Zimbabwean, Uruguain, Australian, or any from the 30+ other countries we import from- they wouldn't have to buy it...

All meat and food entering the US today is identified to country of source- all live imported cattle are marked to source... The Packers/retailers should be required to keep that country source on thru sale.....
 
Mike, can you post a link showing us where in the COOL law it requires "many ways to verify origin" of beef?

What do you know about Zimbabwe? I know little about it beyond the name. Therefore, I do not know about the quality or safety of the beef they raise. How much beef do they export to the USA?

I do know that any beef they export to the USA must meet our requirements for inspection.

Your rants on corruption of USDA are tiresome and serve no useful purpose until you present facts on real cases with people found guilty of the crimes.

I noticed quite a few beef products in a supermarket in Rapid City yesterday that do carry the producers and packers labeling, labeled with pride, no doubt. One brand of it was Ranchers Reserve, from the Ranchers Renaissance group. There were several proudly branded products which looked great, too.

You imagine too much! I would be pleased and proud to label the beef I produce. Just haven't taken the time and effort to get into a branded beef program yet.

Sandhusker, certainly I'm aware of other countries using chemicals illegal in this country. Not to mention the fact that there are people in this country who use such chemicals illegally and do not get caught. However, there is a zero tolerance level for chemicals and adulterants in beef in the USA. Imported beef is required to meet or exceed our standards.

I'm not against labeling, nor mandatory country of origin labeling, but believe farm of origin labeling of beef is also necessary in order to have real, not just perceived, improved beef safety as is implied under such labeling.

MRJ
 
Mike, can you post a link showing us where in the COOL law it requires "many ways to verify origin" of beef?

I have posted the link so many times for you Maxine, the letters are worn off the USDA website address.

What do you know about Zimbabwe

It is my homeland. :wink: I come from a long line of ZULU Warriors who can kill and process a beef in the desert sand faster than you can blink an eye. :roll:
 
reader (the Second) said:
Mike said:
Mike, can you post a link showing us where in the COOL law it requires "many ways to verify origin" of beef?

I have posted the link so many times for you Maxine, the letters are worn off the USDA website address.

What do you know about Zimbabwe

It is my homeland. :wink: I come from a long line of ZULU Warriors who can kill and process a beef in the desert sand faster than you can blink an eye. :roll:

Or perhaps you are Masai and drink the blood of cattle if you are a warrior ? :lol: :lol:

I wonder what if any diseases the Masai are prone to because they drink uncooked cattle blood?

Heck, I don't know. It's one of them tribes.

I drank a little blood today. (Rather matter-of-factly) I happened to dehorn a few calves and the blood was spewing 4-5 feet before I could get the hot iron on it! :lol: :lol:
 
Mike said:
reader (the Second) said:
Mike said:
I have posted the link so many times for you Maxine, the letters are worn off the USDA website address.



It is my homeland. :wink: I come from a long line of ZULU Warriors who can kill and process a beef in the desert sand faster than you can blink an eye. :roll:

Or perhaps you are Masai and drink the blood of cattle if you are a warrior ? :lol: :lol:

I wonder what if any diseases the Masai are prone to because they drink uncooked cattle blood?

Heck, I don't know. It's one of them tribes.

I drank a little blood today. (Rather matter-of-factly) I happened to dehorn a few calves and the blood was spewing 4-5 feet before I could get the hot iron on it! :lol: :lol:

A shot of tequila or that good Canadian whisky will correct any ill effects...or at least you will think it does!!! :wink: :lol: :lol:

You get any of this rain...all totaled...maybe a tenth. :cry:
 
Mike said:
I drank a little blood today. (Rather matter-of-factly) I happened to dehorn a few calves and the blood was spewing 4-5 feet before I could get the hot iron on it! :lol: :lol:

You likely know this already, but an easy way to stop bleeding when dehorning is to tightly tie baler twine to the base of each horn before dehorning. 99% of the time, you don't even have to hot iron it. I also use sisal twine, and I don't have to bother cutting it off, it just falls off.

Rod
 
Mike said:
We got less than a "Trace"! (If that's possible.) :wink:

YES, THAT'S POSSIBLE!!!

It's frustrating watching a line of storms heading your way and right before they get to you, they break apart and go either side of you. AND THEN, the wife comes home and says, "you're doing something wrong!" Real moral builder, eh. :cry:
 
RobertMac said:
Mike said:
We got less than a "Trace"! (If that's possible.) :wink:

YES, THAT'S POSSIBLE!!!

It's frustrating watching a line of storms heading your way and right before they get to you, they break apart and go either side of you. AND THEN, the wife comes home and says, "you're doing something wrong!" Real moral builder, eh. :cry:

Was coming home the other night from a friends about 20 miles off.

Raining at his house and rained the whole way til I got 3-4 miles away from home.

I cried.

Where are all these hurricanes that were predicted?
 
Mike said:
RobertMac said:
Mike said:
We got less than a "Trace"! (If that's possible.) :wink:

YES, THAT'S POSSIBLE!!!

It's frustrating watching a line of storms heading your way and right before they get to you, they break apart and go either side of you. AND THEN, the wife comes home and says, "you're doing something wrong!" Real moral builder, eh. :cry:

Was coming home the other night from a friends about 20 miles off.

Raining at his house and rained the whole way til I got 3-4 miles away from home.

I cried.

Where are all these hurricanes that were predicted?

After Katrina, I'm leery of wishing for too much! :o :shock: But a nice, slow moving tropical depression would be welcome...until it started flooding. :roll:
 

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