NRA calls for Policeman in every School

[Mike]

School security should be a local issue. Since some state's already have different gun laws, let the state's choose what will be banned.

Get the Fed's the hell out out of my life.

 

[hopalong]

Good idea Steve...it just makes too much sense for them to put it in place....

In a shopping center locally the crime rate was very very high,,car break ins,grab and runs, stolen cars, purse snatchings...an armed security done little to help...the sheriffs department put in a satalite station in one of the store fronts.....Wanna wager what happened????
Crime dropped al most instantly to almost nothing


But these were REAL law inforcment officers,,,,not donut eating hiding behing skirts wanna be sheriffs in a county of 6000 residents :wink: :wink: :wink:

 

[TexasBred]

I figured this would be one of the first requests as a way to handle the problem - but I misjudged the direction it would come from....

Very expensive idea.... I have no idea how many schools there are in the country- but heard on tv the number 100,000 being used-- many of which were multibuilding campus's with as many as 40-50 buildings... Training, equipping and putting an armed police officer in each building would be extremely costly--- and sure moves us one more step into being a police state...


Ironically today I also heard a Dr. talking about that nutcase shooters autism... He said it is the same type of autism that Darryl Hannah and Temple Grandin have ......

Hide the cost in Obama Care like everything else. Or suck it out of the billions in foreign aid being given to muslim countries or maybe cut the number of people on food stamps. Tjhere is money...just needs to be used more wisely.

 

[Steve]

It's just another suggestion for a federal law that doesn't get to the root of the problem. If anything, it should be up to the states to set the security standards for their schools and then for each individual district to implement the state mandated security policy as the district sees fit. Whether that policy is arming teachers (not a good idea in my opinion), paying for an officer at each school (like Steve said, we have them here in NJ), or just by stepping up physical security. And physical security is where I feel we could make the greatest difference.

For work I am in and out of Gov't buildings, schools, and businesses ranging from mom and pop stores to Corporate offices. Besides the mom and pop stores, who are normally retail and have to have an open door policy, the second easiest place to get into is a school. Ring the buzzer, state company name (if they even ask), and I'm in. Free to wander the halls if I choose. I don't, I go straight to the office, if I can find it. Only there do I get asked what the nature of my visit is, for ID, and who I need to see.

To get access into most businesses it normally goes one of two ways. The first involves the getting buzzed in by the receptionist who is sitting right on the other side of the door and can see me. Before getting buzzed in, I'm asked who I'm there to see, and who I'm with. Once in the receptionist calls my contact and I stand and wait until the contact comes and escorts me everywhere. The second way is when there is no receptionist. I stand out in a locked vestibule, call my contact explain my business, and wait for the contact to come let me in and escort me. No remotely buzzing someone in.

See the problem? I'm not advocating making schools into prisons, but I feel schools could have a one time expense for upgrades to their physical security and be much safer then they were. There will be times when part of that security plan calls for an officer (example... old school with no ac so must have open windows). We are never going to completely eliminate these mass murders, but we can deter them and mitigate the risks.

our local schools are all about the same.. push a buzzer and get buzzed in... walk into the main hall and then into a room for the first contact, usually a secretary/receptionists..

adding a secure entrance and a security receptionist would not be difficult.. and would stop almost all the incidents that have happened in school buildings.. it wouldn't be perfect but it would be better then the walls of glass we have now..

 

[TexasBred]

I haven't been inside a school in over a year but did go eat lunch with a grandson back in 2011....had to buzz in, stop at receptionist area....got a quickie photo made along with a little stick on I.D. and had to leave my driver's license with the lady. Picked it up on the way out when I also ahd to return the temp. photo I.D.

 

[John SD]

I watched Mr LaPierre being "interviewed" on Meet the Press this morning. First thing when the show was over, I went online and paid my first ever membership dues to the NRA. :wink:

 

[tumbleweed_texn]

A-Raise property tax (school tax) to fund police or armed responder presence in schools
B-Rescind Gun Free Zone designation
C-Both A and B
D-Neither A or B and remain with status quo

Perhaps rather than making this a national issue, it should be an issue determined by each individual school district. Let the people who actually have a stake in each district decide. Maybe along with what I wrote above, there could be a spot for write in suggestions as well. I dont believe that a one size fits all solution would be viable.

Tex

 

[Steve]

A-Raise property tax (school tax) to fund police or armed responder presence in schools
B-Rescind Gun Free Zone designation
C-Both A and B
D-Neither A or B and remain with status quo

Perhaps rather than making this a national issue,it should be an issue determined by each individual school district. Let the people who actually have a stake in each district decide. Maybe along with what I wrote above, there could be a spot for write in suggestions as well. I dont believe that a one size fits all solution would be viable.

Tex

I am not sure that property taxes would go up much to have an officer in the schools.. we already have them.. been there for awhile ... by most accounts they reduce other crimes.. and save money...

school vandalism went down,.. thefts of school property went down.. lawsuits for arrest/detention violations went down.. and there is by most accounts very little drug use in the actual buildings.. in many cases in law enforcement, the officer saves more then he costs..

 

[tumbleweed_texn]

Dont get me wrong, I am agaist mor police and anything that will lead us closer to a police state, but, BUT, if it is going to happen let it be the choice of those who pay the taxes and will be most affected by it.

Personally, I am for not infringing upon the 2nd amendment. If a teacher decides he/she wishes to carry a firearm, they shuld be allowed to. They shouldnt have to have a state issued permit either. I remember as a kid, almost every boy of driving age had a rifle or shotgun in the back window of their pickup. All of the boys and most girls had a sharp knife in their posession as well.

None of the schools in my area had a shooting or a stabbing.

Tex