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Piedmontese

Circle M said:
I just bought a bred cow today at the local auction and i was told that she was bred back to a Piedmontese bull i was wondering if any one has had any experience with them :???:
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I don't know anything about Piedmontese but I like your brand.

It must be an old brand because it might be how the name Round Up got started. Maybe they used to say "Circle em'," which became "Circle 'em up," and then the term became "Round 'em up," and then just shortened to "Round up." Just kidding. :wink: :-) You have a good brand, and it is the same one the Kosmo Kid has here in Nebraska. The Circle is on top of the M with his brand.

Sorry I can't help you with vital information about your calf-to-be.

Welcome to the Board.
 
I raise Piedmontese. What breed is the cow that is bred to a Pied bull? Did they tell you the breeding of the bull. Would be nice to know what his pedigree is.
 
All I know is my vet used to work full time for a fellow who thought it would be a good idea to put Pied embryos in angus cows and heifers... :shock:

He said he remembers doing 6 c-sections in one day.
 
I would not use an Angus as a recipient for Pied embryos. I would not implant a heifer either. I know folks that have done it but I wouldn't. However a Pied bull on a black baldie should work well.
Best beef I have tasted came from a Shorthorn Pied cross. These bulls do a good job at producing lean, tender, juicy healthy beef.
 
Well, I'm almost through the first calving season of the other herd I manage, a Piedmontese herd. First one unassisted, next two on July 1st and 4th were really bad dystocia. We have limited vet coverege here, cattle with bad attitudes and limited facilities. It looked like we were going to need a bunch of C Sections, the decision was made to send them to the Vet Hospital. I have read a lot about calving difficulty in these myostatin/double muscled breeds. The breeder they came from swears that if you don't overfeed them then you won't have problems. Trouble is, her recommendation is very subjective. What she considers average pasture isn't what I consider it to be. She swears that putting them on a very limited diet will cause them to calve without assistance. Everyone else I talk to doesn't like the idea of having to put the cow on a controlled starvation diet to be able to perform.
 
I had some fullblood Peid embryo's in crossbred cows back when Leachman was doing the 'Montana Range' beef thing. I don't remember any calving problems at my place but heard of another co-operator who fed hard (grain and silage) having a wreck.
Most notable for me was that the calves were a special kind of stupid. They had no desire to get up and suck for the first 12 hours. I tubed the first few but just locked up the rest with the cow for a day and they all survived. I guess that kind of work must be normal in Europe but the breed would soon go extinct in ranch conditions.
I think your crossbred will calve alright, just don't assume he's been up and nursed.
 
CKC1586 said:
I would not use an Angus as a recipient for Pied embryos. I would not implant a heifer either. I know folks that have done it but I wouldn't. However a Pied bull on a black baldie should work well.
Best beef I have tasted came from a Shorthorn Pied cross. These bulls do a good job at producing lean, tender, juicy healthy beef.
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hope you are right about taste, a farmer called here yesterday selling meat from his chiller van .
pure bred pietmontese.
bought a few steaks to give him a start. $10 a lb.
 

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