Tommy
Well-known member
AgriTalk Poll
Should meat packers be banned from owning livestock?
Yes
87.5%
No
9.2%
Not sure
3.3%
Should meat packers be banned from owning livestock?
Yes
87.5%
No
9.2%
Not sure
3.3%
Not me PORKER, I don't think that packers should own livestock both from the point of view of their being able to controll prices by owning large numbers of livestock, and the fact that in general, animal welfare is lacking due to cost cutting in the wrong places and poor attitude of the staff on many farms.PORKER said:The 3.3% must be Packer personal.
PPRM said:Hmmmm..I have considered buying a samll Packing Plant..How would I have to "Loophole this deal"??????
PPRM
rkaiser said:Don't worry Tex. As soon as we make the changes necessary up here in Canada, you can follow us.
Your producers have not bled enough yet. I believe that blood bath up here will lead to major changes --- that yes --- should have come before (I hate that word should) but are so evident now that you need to be a lot more than legally blind not to ignore.
As for loopholes for producer ownership vs. packer ownership. Politicians still work for the masses even though the lobby of companies is stronger than at any time in history. That is why this battle takes on so many fronts at one time.
What we did was to form a co-operative and built a state of the art abattoir and processing plant (for pigs), in which we were shareholders. All shareholders had quotas to supply weekly numbers of bacon pigs to the company, outsiders could supply but during gluts in production would be paid a lower price. The company owned no stock, and we were shareholders rather than owners of the company, with options opening as the market grew, for new producers to buy in to the company.PPRM said:Hmmmm..I have considered buying a samll Packing Plant..How would I have to "Loophole this deal"??????
PPRM
andybob said:What we did was to form a co-operative and built a state of the art abattoir and processing plant (for pigs), in which we were shareholders. All shareholders had quotas to supply weekly numbers of bacon pigs to the company, outsiders could supply but during gluts in production would be paid a lower price. The company owned no stock, and we were shareholders rather than owners of the company, with options opening as the market grew, for new producers to buy in to the company.PPRM said:Hmmmm..I have considered buying a samll Packing Plant..How would I have to "Loophole this deal"??????
PPRM
We also networked to buy feed and medications through a seperate Farmer's Co op which benefitted us as farmers, but avoided the pitfalls of a VI dominated market.
Oldtimer said:We'd have to go back two hundred years-- and do away with every law ever passed regulating any business to get back to a truly free enterprise market driven capitalistic economy...A little late for that...
Soapweed said:Oldtimer said:We'd have to go back two hundred years-- and do away with every law ever passed regulating any business to get back to a truly free enterprise market driven capitalistic economy...A little late for that...
But why would we want to make it worse instead of better? :???: Do you admire Socialism and Communism? :?
Tommy said:Cash markets are sometimes open only one day a week, and even then for a very limited time.
Soapweed said:Tommy said:Cash markets are sometimes open only one day a week, and even then for a very limited time.
Kind of like your poll? :???: :wink:![]()