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Polled Hereford bull calves

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CosgrayHerefords

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Here are some pics I took this Thanksgiving of two bulls and two steers. The first bull is a May 29th bull calf out of RWD Horizon 54N, the secong is a March 3rd bull calf out of RWD Horizon 54N, the third is a steer calf out of AA Kodiac 376, the fourth is a steer calf out of AA Boomer 444, and the fifth is the same steer as the fourth pic. Feel free to comment.
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Here is a bull we just purchased this past weekend at Able Acres annual sale in Wingate, IN. He is a Feb bull calf out of Remitall Online 122L. This picture was taken awhile ago from them. When you get behind him is where you truly appreciate this calf. He is thick butted, wide topped, freaky fronted, with massive bone. I'll try and get some pics of him when we bring him home.
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>>He is thick butted, wide topped, freaky fronted, with massive bone.<


Anybody using terms like freaky fronted is suspect in my opinion. Maybe there is some sort of show freak board you could find? Or maybe you should consider show poodles.

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We have 65 head of registered Polled Hereford cattle. We retain about 12 replacement heifers each year, 7 steers for feeding out, and about 2 bulls every year for sale or maybe retain. This year we needed 4 more bulls and we have three right now. We sell the rest of the steers to a feedlot right down the road. The heifers are sold to other breeders who either show them or keep them as replacement heifers. So we need bulls that will pass on desirable phenotypes and not just carcass traits. Thats the business we are in.
 
As much as I like Herefords, I do see a few faults with yours. Yes, they are built well, but I like to see some pigment around the eyes and on the scrotum. When we bought Herefords, male or female, we always chose the ones with pigment. I just think they look classier, but hey, that's my opinion.
 
>>So don't go and sound ignorant without knowing what you're talking about.<<

Son, if your just 4 years outta 4-H, I've forgotten more about the cattle bidness than you've even seen yet! Lol!

To me your little description sounds like a cut and paste from the sale catalog.
 
I was referring to when you told me to go to a show poodle board.

Here is a cut and paste from the catalog.

• High quality proven ancestors on both sides of this pedigree. A full sister won at both the 2008 Denver National and the 2008 Junior National. A full brother is one of our featured young herd sires. A maternal brother was national Reserve Spring Bull Calf at the 2007 Denver National. This powerhouse has muscle shape where it should be. An extra thick hip and rear quarter. He is complete and powerful.
 
I like them both and as of right now I would choose the Able Acres bull. That picture of him was taken awhile ago and since then he has just really thickened out. However the second bull is really close behind him. I can't wait to get them to stand together that way I can make an accurate choice.
 
The calves you raised have far more masculinity than the one you bought, especially the one in the 2nd pic. THe one yuou bought reminds me of what the Angus did to their cattle - at least the majority - over the last 20 years. They bred the masculinity out of the bulls, and ended up with beef bulls that resemble dairy bulls. You're purchase may be square from behind, but he has the front end of a female, and that's just wrong in my opinion.

It's just my 2 cents, but he's not a bull I would look at twice. Always remember when buying a bull like that, he's never going to look as good as that day, unless you feed him the way he was fed during that picture, or the show, or the sale. Once you take hime home, he's going to show his true colors. For your sake I hope his true colors are still functional and pleasing for you.

I really like the calves you raised.
 
Phenotype wasn't the ultimate decision in picking this bull calf. We looked at him a month earlier when he wasn't groomed and he was our choice then as well. We first look at their pedigree. He was sired by the two time national champion Remitall Online 122L and is backed by the great Airwave family. He has a balanced set of EPDs and finally he has the phenotype that we were looking for.
 
>>sired by the two time national champion<<

So showing is of paramount importance to you? Like I said, if showings your bag, why not raise poodles?
 
Hey man what is your problem. I'm sorry that I don't want to raise terrible calves and not make any money off of it. The reality is you make more money with quality animals. That is exactly what he is and Remitall Online has been one of the most influential sires in the breed both carcass and replacement stock. So really what is it that you have against that?
 
Don't mind him, he's always this nice, aren't ya nortex?

As for the bull, you asked for opinions, and we've given them. Some like him, some don't. Does it mean he's not a quality animal? Hell no. Does it mean he is? Hell no. Only you'll know that when you get some daughters producing from him. Then again, you might find out alot sooner than that. I've had bulls that "enlightened" me as to their worth the 1st time we had to handle them. Others wait till they're in the river hills and run 2-300lbs off.

Best of luck with him.
 
Thanks for the comments and I respect your opinions. I'm not discrediting them I was also just giving mine. We will use him on 13 heifers this year and see what he does. From the two times we have seen him(once he was tied up the other he was in a pasture) he was very docile and easy to work with. We had great success with our last bull we used on heifers getting 9 heifers and 2 bull calves from him and we kept 3 of the heifers for ourselves, sold 5 for replacement or show stock, and the other heifer and two steers were sold to a guy who runs a feedlot so we are turning him with 25 mature cows this year.
 

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